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How much throwing is too much? I have developed a hunger for unleashing a throwpocalypse after I get a knockdown.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:25
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That's too much, if you were at the arcade you would get stabbed. Don't do it.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:29
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There should be a dip switch setting that autoforfeits the match if you throw. Only fair for such a dishonorable tactic.
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Sep 12, 2014 05:40
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Look, if throwing on wakeup is wrong, I don't wanna be right (or play Rose anymore, that's her whole mixup game there, throw or cl.MK).
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Sep 12, 2014 05:43
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Dias posted:Look, if throwing on wakeup is wrong, I don't wanna be right (or play Rose anymore, that's her whole mixup game there, throw or cl.MK). Walking into, out of, and back into throw range is a mix up any character can do. 
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Sep 12, 2014 06:00
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I'd say throwing is inherently stronger online, because it's harder to react to it. I'd say don't develop a habit of throwing too much, because then any good opponent you face will just start using lows and frame traps to blow up your excessive throwing.
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Sep 12, 2014 06:14
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You can't react to throws in SF4. It's always a guess to try to stand/crouch tech, even if you're 'reacting' to the setup. If somebody isn't teching your tick throws, keep throwing them. If somebody isn't punishing you mashing stand tech or crouch tech on defense, keep doing it.
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Sep 12, 2014 07:21
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Pomp posted:Walking into, out of, and back into throw range is a mix up any character can do. The Rose Shimmy isn't that simple, sometimes you stay out of throw range and block the crouch tech or DP. Rose mixups.
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Sep 12, 2014 07:27
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Beautiful Ninja posted:The Rose Shimmy isn't that simple, sometimes you stay out of throw range and block the crouch tech or DP. Rose mixups. What you do is get a throw, then do the shimmy into a throw, then dash back dash in cl.MK into a soft knockdown, pretend like you're going for something else and calmly back off to block the DP. It's like playing Ken!
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Sep 12, 2014 14:28
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Dias posted:What you do is get a throw, then do the shimmy into a throw, then dash back dash in cl.MK into a soft knockdown, pretend like you're going for something else and calmly back off to block the DP. It's like playing Ken! So "Flowchart Rose" is going to become a thing now?
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Sep 12, 2014 14:31
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Prowler posted:Ken is actually better than his AE2012 incarnation and is still fine for beginners.
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Sep 12, 2014 15:00
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Elephant Ambush posted:So "Flowchart Rose" is going to become a thing now? It already is.  Pierson posted:Would you have a recommendation for someone who enjoys the fairly slow pace of SF4 in general (I know some people complained/used to complain about how strong defense was in AE but I like it) and would prefer a more generalised jack-of-all-trades character rather than a rushdown/grappling/whatever specialist? Ryu, Balrog, Rose, Chun-li. Depends on how much you value having a projectile, really.
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Sep 12, 2014 15:03
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I hate that everyone online now seems to be aware of Rose's fast as gently caress throw. She beats out Hugo's SPD so regularly it's like my second most hated match behind Gouken fireball spamming.
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Sep 12, 2014 16:58
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I hate that everyone online now seems to be aware of Rose's fast as gently caress throw. She beats out Hugo's SPD so regularly it's like my second most hated match behind Gouken fireball spamming. one of the most annoying things about rose is that her hop kick is drat near a perfectly safe button starting at frame 0. Just loving do it, worst thing that can happen is a random ultra or random uppercut>fadc into incomplete ultra. You can't do poo poo to it on reaction, even whiff punish it.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:08
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All throws are the same speed minus Gouken back throw and all grappler SPDs are throwable during startup. If you're getting thrown out of SPD it's a situation where a normal would hit you anyway, and because you've done nothing to establish to them that throwing in that situation isn't a good option.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:43
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The gently caress? Maybe Roses are just smart idk, I thought I heard (possibly on dumb commentary) that her throw is superior in some way and other than cool people who can grab me out of MS/Lariat that's the only character who I've seen counter throw me consistently and fucks up my SPD game regularly. Intel&Sebastian fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 18:00
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Her throw is better by proxy because of her throw invincible normal that can link into a knock down.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:03
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Her throw has longer than average range.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:03
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bebaloorpabopalo posted:Her throw has longer than average range. That rings a bell. I guess Rose's are just better people.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:05
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The gently caress? She has a higher normal throw range than most of the cast but there's no special throw priority or anything like that. Chun-Li and Vega have similar throw ranges.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:08
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Intel&Sebastian posted:The gently caress? systran posted:Her throw is better by proxy because of her throw invincible normal that can link into a knock down. This. I get a bunch of throws on grapplers because if you try to SPD me, there's always the chance you're getting blown up by cl.MK, so every once in a while I'll just dash in throw. Add that to the great throw range... I love cl.MK.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:41
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 Hi would you guys like to do an SF4 team tournament on PC? 2 captains (Bebopablorbpalbopalo and Trykt), pick teams, BO1 Pokemon style (you play until you lose a game, captain chooses next person to play). Will run it in the evening EST time for any given day. Captains will draft players in #goonsgarden blah blah I'll post more formal rules once there's indication of interest. I'll stream it or Snakeman will or something. If you would like to play in the tournament you need to do two things: 1) vote in this poll: http://strawpoll.me/2551614 2) write a post with the following bolded: ### FORUMS NAME HERE / STEAM PROFILE LINK HERE If I didn't explain this clearly at all then ask and I can make fun of you. If there's interest in this I can also set up more events (maybe not all in SF4).
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Sep 12, 2014 19:28
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interrodactyl posted:
I am a scrub-tier Vega. Absolutely garbage-rear end.
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Sep 12, 2014 19:41
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interrodactyl posted:
### tunaism / http://steamcommunity.com/id/emperortunafish/ Good thing it's pokemon style, because I know 4 moves: light dp, med dp, heavy dp and ex dp.
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Sep 12, 2014 19:49
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interrodactyl posted:
Can EU Goons join?
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Sep 12, 2014 19:49
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Jack Trades posted:Can EU Goons join? Up to you if you want to deal with the lag. There are going to be some USA west coast people, so it's gonna feel real bad on that SF4 netcode. People will probably cry "that was bullshit" whether they win or lose in that delay. e: also I'm running it evening EST no matter what, so check out the time as well
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Sep 12, 2014 19:51
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interrodactyl posted:Up to you if you want to deal with the lag. There are going to be some USA west coast people, so it's gonna feel real bad on that SF4 netcode. People will probably cry "that was bullshit" whether they win or lose in that delay. I had good connection with most Canada and US East goons I played with so it should be at least playable. ### Jack Trades / http://steamcommunity.com/id/thejacktrades/
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Sep 12, 2014 19:56
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### cams / http://steamcommunity.com/id/camsteh/ I don't have to show up in IRC for the draft right?
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Sep 12, 2014 19:57
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### Mantle / http://steamcommunity.com/id/sockbot/
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Sep 12, 2014 20:50
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Mantle posted:### Mantle / http://steamcommunity.com/id/sockbot/ lol private steam profiles. I'M GONNA STEAL YOUR PRECIOUS PRIVATE ACHIEVEMENTS
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Sep 12, 2014 20:51
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### Gorka / http://steamcommunity.com/id/FerGork/ EU player, if it lags too much I'll concede the game, win or loss. (No problem for evening EST tho)
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Sep 12, 2014 21:40
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...Does the move where Yang grabs the other guy and flips over him actually do damage? I'm watching this replay in slow motion and I do it twice to Sagat. The first time, I didn't see his health bar go down, but the second time it won me the second round. Is it just such a ridiculously small amount that you wouldn't notice it outside of that kind of situation?
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Sep 12, 2014 21:54
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interrodactyl posted:
Sounds fun. ### Sarchasm / http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971064020/
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Sep 12, 2014 21:55
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### burger time / http://steamcommunity.com/id/theanimatrix I play rufus, can't play if the tournaments this weekend though, starting Monday I'm free.
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Sep 12, 2014 21:59
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ChibiSoma posted:...Does the move where Yang grabs the other guy and flips over him actually do damage? I'm watching this replay in slow motion and I do it twice to Sagat. The first time, I didn't see his health bar go down, but the second time it won me the second round. Is it just such a ridiculously small amount that you wouldn't notice it outside of that kind of situation? It does 1 damage
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Sep 12, 2014 22:01
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KingShiro posted:It does 1 damage  Well, then. That makes round two of my match against that Sagat player even dumber. You will never see a Sagat successfully throw anyone as much as he threw me. Yang's midsection is just pulp now.
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Sep 12, 2014 22:31
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Turns out that trying to learn Street Fighter 4 with Evil Ryu wasn't the best idea in the world. I love that one combo given to me by the #goonsgarden folks that has no less than 3 one frame links. Very newbie-friendly.interrodactyl posted:
### Heavy Neutrino / Neuts Pick me oh come on pick me! don't pick me i'm loving terrible Heavy neutrino fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 22:42
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### Viash / http://steamcommunity.com/id/Raxvar
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Sep 12, 2014 22:42
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I'm of the opinion that anyone who can't reliably land Evil Ryu's high damage combos is likely better off with regular Ryu. This is especially true if you're new to the game.
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Spamming triple fireballs at sagat players is fun for all ages
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Sep 12, 2014 22:58
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