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McAlister
Nov 3, 2002

by exmarx

Intel&Sebastian posted:

Everything between "legitmate rape" Akin and this poo poo makes me wonder where the breaking point is for married women who aren't 100% in on the subservient wife song and dance. Like what else do they have to do and say before you make a "gently caress you" vote?


This is actually my problem with mail in ballets. I had a coworker who uses then to control his wife's vote. Private polling booths are necessary to keep those women able to vote at all.

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Pirate Radar
Apr 18, 2008

You're not my Ruthie!
You're not my Debbie!
You're not my Sherry!

Dr. Faustus posted:

It's the other girl's fault for not bootsrapping herself into having a Dad who's some sort of Jack Bauer-type superman.

Yeah I mean she shouldn't have been sexual at all, then she wouldn't have gotten into drugs and died.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:



Presenting the return of Steven Crowder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyotLRHMOIk

Moderate Islam: A Myth (Featuring Dana Loesch)




I can't put my finger why as to the reason Muslims no longer vote straight Republican.

Mc Do Well
Aug 2, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The only way I can parse this Crowder poo poo is knowing his primary audience is senile and 60+

'Lock up those nips Muzzies we can't trust them!'

And please Steven, tell more republicans about the evil Saudis :allears:

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:



Presenting the return of Steven Crowder

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PyotLRHMOIk

Moderate Islam: A Myth (Featuring Dana Loesch)




I cant watch him without wanting to punch a wall. what kind of poo poo does he spew?

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Serious question, sorry I know this isn't exactly the right thread, but I follow this thread a lot and there are some super-smart posters here:

I vote by absentee ballot in NC each election. It's because I can just fax the election board and the ballot arrives in my mailbox. I fill out the ballot, get a coworker to witness it (fun fact: every single time my ballot envelope has been witness-signed by a staunch Republican - oops, I mean Independant who will vote straight GOP every election, who knew I was voting opposite them but signed anyway because we get along ok), and then just mail it back. It's incredibly convenient and doesn't interfere with my work schedule (as evidenced by the fact that I actually fill out and seal and get it witnessed on a break at work.)

I don't know what my party's chances are here in NC this year, especially in light of the voter suppression efforts that seem to be holding just fine for this upcoming election).
A part of me is afraid it's hopeless, like the last elections were; but a little tiny part of me is hoping the efforts to get out the vote might work by just enough. I can tell it's hot in NC because the ads are constant and nasty and misleading (especially the GOP ads, but that's not the point). Either way, I intend to participate.

So, for your consideration:

Am I putting our close election at risk by not voting in person? I'm at the same residence for over 11 years, I've been registered as long at this residence. I have all the proper ID to get the ballot and return it. I've never been charged with a crime and I'm embarrassingly Caucasian (don't get offended, you know what I mean.) The main crime I am guilty of in NC is my party affiliation. Sorry, I don't mean to come off as melodramatic or tin-foil hat-ty, despite the long post.

Is my ballot, cast via mail, more or less likely to affect the outcome of any particular race? Is it possible that NC might discount my ballot for some reason? Should I ask this in another D&D thread instead?

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

pengun101 posted:

I cant watch him without wanting to punch a wall. what kind of poo poo does he spew?

He says there is no such thing as a moderate Muslim. Also, for some reason, he thinks Liberals love Dubai and view the UAE as a progressive state.

e: Specifically he points out laws against conversion in several Middle Eastern countries and lovely practices like female genital mutilation in Egypt (which is a cultural tradition not an Islamic one but whatever). Strangely, this did not cover every single Muslim country or countries with a large Muslim population, but somehow this proves there are no moderate, peaceful Muslims.

And he did some stupid racist skits.

Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Sep 13, 2014

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011
Steven Crowder also does stand-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSc-VxL_eWo. I wonder who his influences are as far as comedy goes.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Kelfeftaf posted:

Steven Crowder also does stand-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSc-VxL_eWo. I wonder who his influences are as far as comedy goes.

A cemetery.

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


I've seen tombstones funnier than that rear end in a top hat. :ghost::arghfist:

Sir Tonk
Apr 18, 2006
Young Orc

Man, gently caress this guy. He's almost at O'Keefe's level, but at least he isn't bringing down non-profits yet.

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011
Crowder was fired by Fox News because he said that Hannity lets liberals bully him on his program.

He clarified this statement after being fired by saying that Hannity is just too nice of a guy and feels like he has to play by the rules when he interviews people.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

Kelfeftaf posted:

Steven Crowder also does stand-up: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSc-VxL_eWo. I wonder who his influences are as far as comedy goes.

Such a lazy mish mash of imitations and xenophobia

Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Sep 13, 2014

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Wait, Crowder's from Canada? You bastards, how could you do this to us!? :argh:

Makes the fact that all of his jokes are about minorities and immigrants hypocritical in addition to loving terrible.

e: "Its tough not to respect that guy, he's so successful in every aspect of his life" - Talking 'bout Herman Cain.

djw175
Apr 23, 2012

by zen death robot

Mantis42 posted:

Wait, Crowder's from Canada? You bastards, how could you do this to us!? :argh:

Makes the fact that all of his jokes are about minorities and immigrants hypocritical in addition to loving terrible.

e: "Its tough not to respect that guy, he's so successful in every aspect of his life" - Talking 'bout Herman Cain.

I think Canada just sends us its shittiest people. Cruz was born in Canada, too.

Kelfeftaf
Sep 9, 2011

Mantis42 posted:

Wait, Crowder's from Canada? You bastards, how could you do this to us!? :argh:

There's a part in his stand-up where he says that in Canada people like Mitt Romney are called liberals.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

There's the part where he calls his home country a retarded cheerleader to America's quarterback. And then he says their healthcare sucks and makes fun of people who can't afford medicine.

Christ, what an rear end in a top hat.

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

djw175 posted:

I think Canada just sends us its shittiest people. Cruz was born in Canada, too.

To be fair if you had a neighbour willing to welcome your biggest idiots with open arms you'd dump them too.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 215 days!

Sir Tonk posted:

Man, gently caress this guy. He's almost at O'Keefe's level, but at least he isn't bringing down non-profits yet.

I wonder what his mother things about that t-shirt (if read as implying that he built himself).

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp

djw175 posted:

I think Canada just sends us its shittiest people. Cruz was born in Canada, too.

There's more money to be had by being an rear end in a top hat in America.

Acropolis
Feb 21, 2014

That shirt brings up weird memories...

A couple of years ago I worked at a place with a logo that is disturbingly similar to that shirt. During a yearly company wide meeting/party the "Libertarian" (read: "self made" rich young hip conservative) CEO got up on stage complimented the company on the previous year's amazing growth and wanted to remind us that we, the employees, "Built this company" up to what it was. In the midst of clapping and cheering he clicks to the next slide, a smiling picture of Obama, and shouts us down saying "No you didn't! He (Obama) built this!". During the stunned silence punctuated by nervous laughs from a few employees, he laughs at his joke and continues forth on his spiel about how we as a company sucked at pretty much every initiative we set forth on for the previous year.

It boggles my mind how often I've seen conservatives around me injecting their opinions into presentations and conversations out of the blue. Then they act as if they totally won magic support points from their audience by the confused silence resulting at the non-sequitor of the statement.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.
I remember my German TA from last winter doing a slideshow on an in-class activity of describing a celebrity in German, and he had a picture of Obama up, and then he said "be descriptive, like if you want to call this guy a dumbass" and everyone just laughed nervously. He then said "oh, there are no factions in this class!" while ranting about Obamacare the next quarter while subbing in for someone else and crying about how everyone blames Bush for everything.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Acropolis posted:

That shirt brings up weird memories...

A couple of years ago I worked at a place with a logo that is disturbingly similar to that shirt. During a yearly company wide meeting/party the "Libertarian" (read: "self made" rich young hip conservative) CEO got up on stage complimented the company on the previous year's amazing growth and wanted to remind us that we, the employees, "Built this company" up to what it was. In the midst of clapping and cheering he clicks to the next slide, a smiling picture of Obama, and shouts us down saying "No you didn't! He (Obama) built this!". During the stunned silence punctuated by nervous laughs from a few employees, he laughs at his joke and continues forth on his spiel about how we as a company sucked at pretty much every initiative we set forth on for the previous year.

It boggles my mind how often I've seen conservatives around me injecting their opinions into presentations and conversations out of the blue. Then they act as if they totally won magic support points from their audience by the confused silence resulting at the non-sequitor of the statement.

See, akward silence is the part where he BLEW EVERYONES MIND! :catdrugs:

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

pengun101 posted:

I am curious what people think of this article. http://www.cnn.com/2014/09/11/us/james-foley-mother/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

Basically james foley's mother is pissed at Obama because he didn't do enough to save her son and we should have negotiated with ISIS. I am sure the right will run this story into the ground.

If it helps, Joe Walsh is against her. But then again, he also thinks that the parents of Newtown have no unique perspectives on gun-ownership in America so...

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

It's far from the worst thing that Fox News et al has done but it really sucks how they've empowered a certain segment of the population to see absolutely everything in a political lens. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells with almost every single topic of conversation in a professional setting now because even the most banal of water cooler conversations with coworkers or clients might now be part of the battlefield. Sports? Liberals trying to take away Are Redskins. Weather? Al Gore is fat. What to get for lunch? Something something pro Chik-Fil-A rant. Called in sick yesterday? Obamacare.

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Acropolis posted:

the "Libertarian" (read: "self made" rich young hip conservative) CEO got up on stage complimented the company on the previous year's amazing growth and wanted to remind us that we, the employees, "Built this company" up to what it was. In the midst of clapping and cheering he clicks to the next slide, a smiling picture of Obama, and shouts us down saying "No you didn't! He (Obama) built this!". During the stunned silence punctuated by nervous laughs from a few employees, he laughs at his joke and continues forth on his spiel about how we as a company sucked at pretty much every initiative we set forth on for the previous year.

It boggles my mind how often I've seen conservatives around me injecting their opinions into presentations and conversations out of the blue. Then they act as if they totally won magic support points from their audience by the confused silence resulting at the non-sequitor of the statement.


Jerry Manderbilt posted:

I remember my German TA from last winter doing a slideshow on an in-class activity of describing a celebrity in German, and he had a picture of Obama up, and then he said "be descriptive, like if you want to call this guy a dumbass" and everyone just laughed nervously. He then said "oh, there are no factions in this class!" while ranting about Obamacare the next quarter while subbing in for someone else and crying about how everyone blames Bush for everything.

So many right wing Americans live in such a hermetically sealed bubble of media and ideology that it's just not conceivable that an overwhelming majority of other Americans don't share their views, leading to stuff like this.

Especially if they are operating within what they consider a "safe" cultural or demographic sphere. Such as if they are with other white Christians, military people, business colleagues etc. (or in the first example, a captive audience of employees).

A story about one of my old bosses from the military. This was during the early 90's. He was looking for jobs and to get out of the military at a time when the civilian job market for our field was poor and decent jobs were very competitive. He was one of a lot of people applying for a position and was winnowed down to a final few candidates for the single position. There was an interview including the CEO/Board of Director types at the place. Apparently he made some wiseass comment about Bill Clinton or the Clintons (Bill was President at the time) and subsequently learned that the CEO was a major donor and supporter of Clinton. He didn't get the job.

Though I wasn't there I can easily believe the story because I saw this kind of behavior a million times from righties, and it's that much worse after 20 more years of Rush/FOX/Drudge.

It's just super easy for people in the spheres I worked in, then and now, of physicians and the military, to assume that everyone in those areas, and other general conservative areas such as rich corporate boardroom environments, share their views, to the point of doing dumbass poo poo like this without even stopping to consider "what do I really gain by saying this, versus how much do I risk or can I lose by saying this?". The thought is never entertained that they never get challenged on their Rush/FOX talking points at work not because everybody shares them but because many people just aren't interested in fighting those battles at work, or are in an inferior position power wise and just keep their mouths shut.

The problem is, if the guy you don't really know who you share the Clinton/Obama joke with happens to share your views, you don't really gain much, but if they don't, you stand to piss them off. Doubly so if you live or work in an area where everyone is a righty, if you make that joke to the tiny minority of CEOs/doctors/military officers who are NOT a righty, they are probably already annoyed as poo poo all the time having to put up with all the other righties surrounding them, if they are in a position to choose you for a job, contract or promotion and you lay another dose or right wing bullshit on them, it won't go well for you.

Venusian Weasel
Nov 18, 2011

Dr.Zeppelin posted:

It's far from the worst thing that Fox News et al has done but it really sucks how they've empowered a certain segment of the population to see absolutely everything in a political lens. I feel like I'm walking on eggshells with almost every single topic of conversation in a professional setting now because even the most banal of water cooler conversations with coworkers or clients might now be part of the battlefield. Sports? Liberals trying to take away Are Redskins. Weather? Al Gore is fat. What to get for lunch? Something something pro Chik-Fil-A rant. Called in sick yesterday? Obamacare.

Reminds me a lot of something I read about the political polarization of Europe in the 1920s. Wanted to read a newspaper? Wanted to join a cycling club? Wanted to support a soccer team? You had your choice of a communist, socialist, conservative, and fascist version of all those things so you never had to encounter an alternative viewpoint. With the internet making it easy to form echo chambers it seems like we're seeing a return to that.

Jerry Manderbilt
May 31, 2012

No matter how much paperwork I process, it never goes away. It only increases.

Zwabu posted:

So many right wing Americans live in such a hermetically sealed bubble of media and ideology that it's just not conceivable that an overwhelming majority of other Americans don't share their views, leading to stuff like this.

Especially if they are operating within what they consider a "safe" cultural or demographic sphere. Such as if they are with other white Christians, military people, business colleagues etc. (or in the first example, a captive audience of employees).

A story about one of my old bosses from the military. This was during the early 90's. He was looking for jobs and to get out of the military at a time when the civilian job market for our field was poor and decent jobs were very competitive. He was one of a lot of people applying for a position and was winnowed down to a final few candidates for the single position. There was an interview including the CEO/Board of Director types at the place. Apparently he made some wiseass comment about Bill Clinton or the Clintons (Bill was President at the time) and subsequently learned that the CEO was a major donor and supporter of Clinton. He didn't get the job.

Though I wasn't there I can easily believe the story because I saw this kind of behavior a million times from righties, and it's that much worse after 20 more years of Rush/FOX/Drudge.

It's just super easy for people in the spheres I worked in, then and now, of physicians and the military, to assume that everyone in those areas, and other general conservative areas such as rich corporate boardroom environments, share their views, to the point of doing dumbass poo poo like this without even stopping to consider "what do I really gain by saying this, versus how much do I risk or can I lose by saying this?". The thought is never entertained that they never get challenged on their Rush/FOX talking points at work not because everybody shares them but because many people just aren't interested in fighting those battles at work, or are in an inferior position power wise and just keep their mouths shut.

The problem is, if the guy you don't really know who you share the Clinton/Obama joke with happens to share your views, you don't really gain much, but if they don't, you stand to piss them off. Doubly so if you live or work in an area where everyone is a righty, if you make that joke to the tiny minority of CEOs/doctors/military officers who are NOT a righty, they are probably already annoyed as poo poo all the time having to put up with all the other righties surrounding them, if they are in a position to choose you for a job, contract or promotion and you lay another dose or right wing bullshit on them, it won't go well for you.

To be honest, I'm incredibly hesitant to talk about my views in real life; I'm always scared of the social repercussions of taking a dump on "job creators" or to make a case for why UHC and a higher top tax bracket are good things, while these people have absolutely no problem saying the most vile poo poo out loud without a care to the company surrounding them.

beatlegs
Mar 11, 2001

Jerry Manderbilt posted:

To be honest, I'm incredibly hesitant to talk about my views in real life; I'm always scared of the social repercussions of taking a dump on "job creators" or to make a case for why UHC and a higher top tax bracket are good things, while these people have absolutely no problem saying the most vile poo poo out loud without a care to the company surrounding them.

It's no different than any other cult that lives in it's own bubble of reality, only this one has a huge segment of the media protecting them from being challenged, which further validates their delusions and makes them seem "normal". I hesitate to call it mental sickness, but delusion on this level where people live in their own self created reality is, from a common sense POV, loving nuts.

beatlegs fucked around with this message at 08:04 on Sep 14, 2014

Dr.Zeppelin
Dec 5, 2003

Venusian Weasel posted:

Reminds me a lot of something I read about the political polarization of Europe in the 1920s. Wanted to read a newspaper? Wanted to join a cycling club? Wanted to support a soccer team? You had your choice of a communist, socialist, conservative, and fascist version of all those things so you never had to encounter an alternative viewpoint. With the internet making it easy to form echo chambers it seems like we're seeing a return to that.

Except this time around it seems like the ideology is more often bound up in the activity itself. You don't get to pick a liberal or conservative team to follow, you pick a liberal or conservative sport as a whole.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


I basically don't talk about politics with anyone who might be able to negatively affect my career or prospects.

So basically I don't talk about politics

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Crowder is a turd and we all know that.

Dr. Faustus posted:

Serious question, sorry I know this isn't exactly the right thread, but I follow this thread a lot and there are some super-smart posters here:

I vote by absentee ballot in NC each election. It's because I can just fax the election board and the ballot arrives in my mailbox. I fill out the ballot, get a coworker to witness it (fun fact: every single time my ballot envelope has been witness-signed by a staunch Republican - oops, I mean Independant who will vote straight GOP every election, who knew I was voting opposite them but signed anyway because we get along ok), and then just mail it back. It's incredibly convenient and doesn't interfere with my work schedule (as evidenced by the fact that I actually fill out and seal and get it witnessed on a break at work.)

I don't know what my party's chances are here in NC this year, especially in light of the voter suppression efforts that seem to be holding just fine for this upcoming election).
A part of me is afraid it's hopeless, like the last elections were; but a little tiny part of me is hoping the efforts to get out the vote might work by just enough. I can tell it's hot in NC because the ads are constant and nasty and misleading (especially the GOP ads, but that's not the point). Either way, I intend to participate.

So, for your consideration:

Am I putting our close election at risk by not voting in person? I'm at the same residence for over 11 years, I've been registered as long at this residence. I have all the proper ID to get the ballot and return it. I've never been charged with a crime and I'm embarrassingly Caucasian (don't get offended, you know what I mean.) The main crime I am guilty of in NC is my party affiliation. Sorry, I don't mean to come off as melodramatic or tin-foil hat-ty, despite the long post.

Is my ballot, cast via mail, more or less likely to affect the outcome of any particular race? Is it possible that NC might discount my ballot for some reason? Should I ask this in another D&D thread instead?
...But I'm quoting this because it's my beloved home state and I want somebody to help this guy out. Pat McCrory has been making GBS threads on the middle class ever since he took office.

Before GBS 2.0 took over, we even had a dedicated thread for North Carolina's collapse.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Kelfeftaf posted:

Crowder was fired by Fox News because he said that Hannity lets liberals bully him on his program.

He clarified this statement after being fired by saying that Hannity is just too nice of a guy and feels like he has to play by the rules when he interviews people.

Source? This is just unreal.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene
I had a colleague like that. We work in sales and her territory was San Francisco. We sell biotech equipment to a mixed crowd of academic and business-types (note: the business-types usually come from an academic background). She decided the best way to bond with potential customers was to talk about politics. She's a firebreathing conservative. Her numbers were . . . not good. I remembered thinking, "Why would you do that?" Best case scenario, you've made a personal connection, worst case scenario you've completely alienated the potential customer. There are other, less dangerous, ways to establish a connection!

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

Shbobdb posted:

She decided the best way to bond with potential customers was to talk about politics. ... There are other, less dangerous, ways to establish a connection!

Yeah, "how about those 49ers" is a lot safer, although not completely safe.

She just sounds like someone who is not cut out for sales at all.

The thing that kills me is that if you're going to do what your colleague was doing, it would at least be less risky and damaging if you were "swimming with the current" of your regional environment (i.e. if she were doing sales in Texas or Alabama). But no, she has to run with the Tea Party poo poo in loving San Francisco where even rich business people are much more likely to be liberal compared to other parts of the country. The anecdote I gave about the Clinton bashing guy took place in a reliably Democratic state (both in Presidential elections and statewide elections).

Even "swimming with the current" has its risks when talking politics with potential business associates. As I said, if you happen to run into the client/customer who happens to "swim against the current" of that area you are much more likely to piss them off because they are used to having to listen to political opinions that are odious to them in all kinds of other situations where they have to let it go.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Dr. Faustus posted:

Is my ballot, cast via mail, more or less likely to affect the outcome of any particular race? Is it possible that NC might discount my ballot for some reason? Should I ask this in another D&D thread instead?

Absentee ballots by mail are counted the same as one-stop absentee ballots (i.e. early voting); they're tallied before election day. As long as you have the witness or notary signatures on the envelope you should be fine because your county elections board had to verify your identity before mailing it to you.

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
^^ Hey, thank you as well. I know I'm not your favorite poster, I appreciate the response. ^^

Hazo posted:

Crowder is a turd and we all know that.

...But I'm quoting this because it's my beloved home state and I want somebody to help this guy out. Pat McCrory has been making GBS threads on the middle class ever since he took office.

Before GBS 2.0 took over, we even had a dedicated thread for North Carolina's collapse.

Thank you, Hazo. I miss that thread (as much as it hurt) and I love this state, too; even though I'm a Yankee (not a drat Yankee) transplant. I moved here just before my 10th birthday (gonna be 43 in about 9 days) and I care very much about what's happening here.
Thank you very much.

Shbobdb
Dec 16, 2010

by Reene

Zwabu posted:

The thing that kills me is that if you're going to do what your colleague was doing, it would at least be less risky and damaging if you were "swimming with the current" of your regional environment (i.e. if she were doing sales in Texas or Alabama). But no, she has to run with the Tea Party poo poo in loving San Francisco where even rich business people are much more likely to be liberal compared to other parts of the country. The anecdote I gave about the Clinton bashing guy took place in a reliably Democratic state (both in Presidential elections and statewide elections).

That's what blew my mind. Why would you go full Tea Party in San Francisco? That's just the dumbest thing possible.

Unsurprisingly, she was also super racist and homophobic. She was smart enough not to mention that to customers but she wasn't shy talking to colleagues about it.

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Dr. Faustus posted:

Thank you, Hazo. I miss that thread (as much as it hurt) and I love this state, too; even though I'm a Yankee (not a drat Yankee) transplant. I moved here just before my 10th birthday (gonna be 43 in about 9 days) and I care very much about what's happening here.
Thank you very much.

Something like 20 out of 50 state senate and 59 of 120 house seats are unopposed this year. It's not like this poo poo really matters either way.

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Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer
Agreed. I just wanted assurance from people who know better than I (pretty much everyone in this subforum) that I wasn't making a mistake.
NC is a serious battleground state this time around, so I was more concerned than usual.

Thanks.

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