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Mightypeon posted:Depends. I mean, Rokosovsky did some really Major stuff. Anyone recommend books about Roko?
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100 Years Ago The Allies arrive at the Aisne, where the news is less than completely positive. The river itself is wide and deep and absolutely will not admit to being fordable. The bridges have mostly been attended to by various engineers; the few that remain intact have been heavily fortified. The German artillery has had plenty of time to set up behind the Chemin-des-Dames and range their guns on the south bank, and the rapidly deepening trenches afford many spots for observation posts that combine an excellent view from above with minimal visibility from beneath. The south bank is completely flat grassland without cover of any sort. Assuming they can get across the river, the blokes would then have to face a tricky scramble up a sharp, muddy incline just to get to the short area of flatland at the bottom of the ridge. And, just to make this poo poo sandwich complete, it soon becomes apparent that the first line of hills south of the river is so far away that the guns won't be able to shell the German defensive positions from cover; the elevation change and the sheer distance has put them out of range. in short, this is a damned tricky spot. Everyone gets a breather and attempts to take cover while the Brains Trust puts their thinking caps on and the German artillerymen enjoy some light target practice. All across the front line, dispositions are shuffled. Allied commanders are particularly anxious to get their spotter planes operating from locations within range of the Aisne, but it will not be possible to send them up until tomorrow.
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100 Years Ago The Allies are determined to stay on the offensive. What could possibly go wrong? Therefore, the problem now facing them is how to cross the Aisne. In some areas where the heights are relatively distant from the river, the engineers are called upon to build pontoon bridges, inevitably drawing heavy fire from the guns. Even near misses frequently land in the river and make things considerably more exciting than the men would prefer. The Aisne itself is swollen by days of rain and flowing a great deal faster than usual. Meanwhile, some of the permanent bridges have not been very efficiently demolished. Some have only small breaks in them that can be crossed with the aid of a few large planks. In some places, the river has cut a sharp trench for itself, and more interesting methods are required... quote:Cpl Holbrook, 4th Royal Fusiliers Of course, to avoid having matters enlivened still further by the attentions of the enemy, all this is being done at night, in the pissing rain. The mid-air box bridge was the standard way of crossing ravines in India; but of course it's one thing to cross such a bridge with all the time in the world in broad daylight, and another to cross it in pitch dark, staggering slowly towards a man showing the weakest of torchlight a hundred and fifty yards away, knowing that thousands of your mates are all waiting for their turn, with the occasional crump going off in the darkness... And, just to add to the confusion, the weather has grounded the spotter planes and left the commanders without any intelligence on the German positions beyond "hmm, there seems to be rather a lot of Boche over there". Meanwhile, in Serbia, the Serbs are forced to withdraw from Mackov Kamen to the next line of hills, where they entrench and the front line settles down for a period of static warfare. They can produce only 100 shells per day, and their guns are old and few in number; their Austro-Hungarian opponents are rather better supplied.
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Back To 99 posted:You're also confusing Georgians with Russians, I'm assuming. Nope, that advance force beat up the Georgians, then went into Russia and beat them up, too. Not even being trapped in the Ural stopped them. The Russian princes of course did nothing to prepare after the Mongols retreated again, so when the actual invasion happened, they were beaten up some more. So my reasoning here is, even a strategic retreat could have been a faint, considering the Europeans weren't soothsayers capable of predicting their enemies' leader dying and everyone rushing back to Mongolia.
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Trin Tragula posted:Of course, to avoid having matters enlivened still further by the attentions of the enemy, all this is being done at night, in the pissing rain. The mid-air box bridge was the standard way of crossing ravines in India; but of course it's one thing to cross such a bridge with all the time in the world in broad daylight, and another to cross it in pitch dark, staggering slowly towards a man showing the weakest of torchlight a hundred and fifty yards away, knowing that thousands of your mates are all waiting for their turn, with the occasional crump going off in the darkness... This sounds like it'd certainly make for a lively and precarious evening. I'm having a bit of a problem picturing it though. I tried Google Image Searching for "mid-air box bridge" and "box bridge India" but didn't have a lot of luck, as a box bridge is a standard type of bridge (i.e. an old train trestle). You wouldn't have any examples available or search term ideas?
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uPen posted:The Guns of August thread in TBB has a ton of recommendations. I'm going to chime in with a recommendation for Sleepwalkers. That book does an amazing job of providing context for the situation in July 1914. I'm just digging in to it, but the early chapters on Serbia, Austria, and Germany are very informative. We've all heard of the Black Hand by now, but the fact that the organization grew out of the conspiracy to kill the king and queen in 1903. And they succeeded, there was an actual regicide in Serbia in 1903. The head of military intelligence who supplied the weapons to Princip's group was severely wounded by a palace guard during the attack on the royal family. A decade later and he's planning another royal assassination. The situation makes a lot more sense when you have a decade or two of context for all the major players.
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Kaal posted:This sounds like it'd certainly make for a lively and precarious evening. I'm having a bit of a problem picturing it though. I tried Google Image Searching for "mid-air box bridge" and "box bridge India" but didn't have a lot of luck, as a box bridge is a standard type of bridge (i.e. an old train trestle). You wouldn't have any examples available or search term ideas? The mental image I've got is of something like the Elves' rope bridge over the Nimrodel, except probably with more than one bit of rope along the bottom and the ropes being used to support boxes. "Mid-air box bridge" is far more of a description than a name; it seems to be the sort of thing your sergeant or captain shows you how to cobble together as and when needed, out of whatever you have to hand or can quickly requisition, based on how he was shown to do it by his sergeant or captain back when he was a private or subaltern. Everyone knows how to make one, but it's probably not in any manual, that sort of thing. I'm sure I've run into descriptions of similar bodge jobs before now, but where they were I can't remember. Possibly there's one in one of Flashman's Indian adventures?
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quote:Despite their romantic portrayal in Soviet propaganda, female soldiers faced a multitude of challenges in the male-dominated military. First, the women struggled to obtain combat roles on the front lines. The 1936 Stalin constitution asserted that Soviet women were fully emancipated, but the state still considered women unsuited for combat. As a result, when war broke out in 1941, the state rejected thousands of female volunteers eager to defend the motherland on the front lines. Even after the creation of all-female and mixed-gender combat units, many female soldiers were relegated to the rear. Women of the 1st Separate Women’s Volunteer Rifle Brigade, assigned to domestic service detail, became frustrated by their lack of combat action and requested to be sent to the front. When these requests were denied, many deserted to the front to fight for the fatherland; if caught, the deserters were severely punished. 
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Trin Tragula posted:The mental image I've got is of something like the Elves' rope bridge over the Nimrodel, except probably with more than one bit of rope along the bottom and the ropes being used to support boxes. "Mid-air box bridge" is far more of a description than a name; it seems to be the sort of thing your sergeant or captain shows you how to cobble together as and when needed, out of whatever you have to hand or can quickly requisition, based on how he was shown to do it by his sergeant or captain back when he was a private or subaltern. Everyone knows how to make one, but it's probably not in any manual, that sort of thing. Edit: These things are common in Nepal, Pakistan, and the mountainous parts of India, so it makes sense that a British soldier would have learned how to construct one from the people there. Nenonen posted:welp, I didn't think desertion to front was such a problem HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Sep 13, 2014 |
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Sorry for the double post, but this is in response to Tomn's question--I just read that Kepler, as imperial mathematician, gave the Emperor political advice based on astrology. I'm also remembering how into occultism the Winter King and Elizabeth Stuart were. This poo poo was everywhere. It may have been cruder or more sophisticated based on your level of education, but after a day or so of reflection I'm going to reiterate that there was no way a more educated person would be less likely to believe in magic. Hell, I read one officer's memoir (was it Monro??? no idea) where he mentions that his side lost a particular battle because one of the common soldiers on the other side was a wizard who called up fog that day, in the same sort of shrugging, offhanded tone as one would mention that the sun was in your soldiers' eyes. For more on this stuff (at the sort of level that the intelligentsia would be likely to encounter, not Johann Q Public), I recommend these books: http://www.amazon.com/Magic-Renaissance-Chicago-Original-Paperback/dp/0226123162 http://www.amazon.com/Art-Memory-Frances-Yates-ebook/dp/B005TKD6UC http://www.amazon.com/The-Rosicrucian-Enlightenment-Routledge-Classics/dp/0415267692 HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Sep 14, 2014 |
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Do wedge formations actually work in land battles? What is the rationale behind them?
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Fangz posted:Do wedge formations actually work in land battles? What is the rationale behind them? Kinda sorta like Napoleonic attack columns but with flank guards.  It seems like it would be much easier to lead in battlefield, too, than a solid line because the wings just need to follow a little behind the speartip column.
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100 Years Ago General von Moltke is relieved by Erich von Falkenhayn as supreme German commander on the Western Front, who must now pick up the pieces and continue to prosecute the war as best he can. All along the front, the BEF and the French army emerge from their hiding places on the north bank of the Aisne for one more push. There are many small settlements nestled along the foot of the ridge that make excellent first objectives before the ground begins to rise. quote:Sgt Sanderson, 2nd King's Royal Rifle Corps In the German telling of this incident, the British soldiers had fired upon them without provocation. The story spread quickly, and was directly responsible for some serious reprisals against British prisoners in the following days. Another incident of similar character occurred on the 19th at Troyon, involving the 1st West Yorkshires and the 2nd Sherwood Foresters. quote:Drummer Slaytor, 3rd Coldstream Guards Bill Holbrook had a similar experience at Vailly, with the added bonus of his job as a runner affording him an excellent chance to watch the Royal Scots Fusiliers attempting to advance through yet another beet field. They promptly came under vicious enfilade fire and lost most of their men in a few minutes. When the mud settles at the end of the day, various battered units are clinging to isolated positions on the north bank. There simply aren't enough of them, or enough low ground in front of the river, to form a continuous line. Some of them have been forced back to the south bank. At the far east of the ridge, elements of the French Fifth Army have captured the very eastern tip of the Chemin-des-Dames as it descends from the heights. They look around hopefully for their mates, but soon come to realise that they're in a salient. No other French units have made significant headway anywhere else. On the Eastern Front, Galicia/Lemberg closes in favour of the Russians, while the Russian First Army retreats from the Masurian Lakes and Prussia in complete disarray.
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Fangz posted:Do wedge formations actually work in land battles? What is the rationale behind them? If you have superior troops, it can divide the enemy in two and really gently caress up their cohesion and morale. The Romans used it when super outnumbered by Boudicca at wattling street.
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I'm really loving Trin Tragula's 100 Years Ago posts. My apologies if this has already been asked before, but are there any solid documentaries on WW1?
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I like the font change for the numbers. Numbers aren't supposed to be foreign words guys!
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xthetenth posted:I like the font change for the numbers. Numbers aren't supposed to be foreign words guys!
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They also switch for Compagnie and Exercitium for some reason. Is that the equivalent of using italic for foreign words today?
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PittTheElder posted:They also switch for Compagnie and Exercitium for some reason. Is that the equivalent of using italic for foreign words today? For instance, check this out:  Everything's written in German script, except for "incaminere," "hit the road," which is Latin...ish. Edit: Oh, and Novemb. (November) and Ao. (Year), both of which are also Latin (this time actual Latin!). HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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What period did the adoption of Arabic numerals in Europe take place, anyway?
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Goofus Giraffe posted:I'm really loving Trin Tragula's 100 Years Ago posts. My apologies if this has already been asked before, but are there any solid documentaries on WW1? The classic must-see WWI documentary is the BBC's The Great War. It's fascinating to watch, though sometimes a little dated in the historicity: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXhiagFG8KE
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Part 2 of the seminal tragedy of the twentieth century. Brought to you by Extra History! I cried a little.  Dan does a good job capturing the emotion of it all.
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Kind of a vague question, but how decentralized was the German Empire, and how did it affect military matters? Was it just a matter of having units in an otherwise uniform military recruited on a regional basis, or was there real differences in how, say, a Prussian unit would be organized and equipped compared to a Bavarian one?
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100 Years Ago It's obvious that further attacks on the Aisne would be suicidal, and the order goes out for the Allies to dig in and wait for further orders. This is a welcome order, but not the easiest one to carry out. Picks, spades and shovels are in terminally short supply. Most of them are strewn along the roadside between Mons and St Quentin. A battalion with a current strength of ~650 counts itself extremely lucky if they are in possession of two digging tools. Fresh ones have been ordered, but are currently stuck somewhere between the factory and St Nazaire. Runners quickly transition from carrying attack orders from HQ to the front line, to carrying plainitive requests between subalterns on the theme of of "C Company wonders if D Company has finished with the shovel yet". Tools are not the only things in short supply. There are men without caps, men without coats, men without water-bottles, or blankets, or webbing. Men without boots, socks or puttees. The men in the trenches are all absolutely filthy, unshaven, unwashed, wet through, unable to sleep for longer than a few hours at a time. There are a large number of rather harassed quartermasters unable to supply satisfactory answers to urgent enquiries from London about where all this missing equipment has gone; it seems that "we couldn't carry it while retiring at twenty miles a day, so we left it behind" is not a satisfactory answer. And without a satisfactory answer, the proper forms cannot be filled in; and without the proper forms (most of which are currently decomposing in a ditch somewhere near Valenciennes) to account for losses, no replacements may be issued, no matter how loudly the overworked Quartermaster-General shouts at his hapless subordinates. Both sides sink into the ground like moles. While the ground is sodden and slushy on top, underneath the mud is firm chalk and a low water table. Digging is surprisingly easy, even with the tools available. Over the following days, once the bridges are in an acceptable state of repair, the engineers will get to the serious work of transforming the scattered funk-holes and scratchings into a proper trench system. The lines being established now will barely move an inch for the next three and a half years.
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gradenko_2000 posted:What happened in the War of Spanish Succession after the Battle of Blenheim? The Battle of Ramillies. Marlborough is one of the greatest generals you have probably never heard of. e: also a twist of history that twice a man called Churchill was responsible for breaking the dominant power in Europe. Alchenar fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Pornographic Memory posted:Kind of a vague question, but how decentralized was the German Empire, and how did it affect military matters? Was it just a matter of having units in an otherwise uniform military recruited on a regional basis, or was there real differences in how, say, a Prussian unit would be organized and equipped compared to a Bavarian one? I know less about the organizational end than I do the equipment end, but the non-Prussian units were at least somewhat considered second-line units. Off the top of my head a lot of the southern imperial states and kingdoms (Bavaria, Thuringia, Würtenburg, Baden, etc) got equipment that was slightly inferior to what the more prestigious Prussian commands were fielding, often older stuff that was on its way to being rotated into obsolescence. Pfalz D.IIIs instead of Albatross III or V's on the aerial end of things, refurbed Gew 88/05 "Commission Rifles" instead of the more modern Gew 98, etc.
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How exactly did the pre-stirrup Cataphract stay in the saddle? Did they just build out a bucket seat on the horse like I'm imagining? E: on a related note, were the "war horses" of antiquity/medieval warfare breeds which have since become extinct due to obsolescence? Or have they basically been bred into draft horse usage e.g. Clydesdales? FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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FAUXTON posted:How exactly did the pre-stirrup Cataphract stay in the saddle? Did they just build out a bucket seat on the horse like I'm imagining?
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alex314 posted:Their saddles were designed to provide support, even for a lance charge. I'm giggling at the prospect of a saddle with a set of ergonomic adjustment knobs and levers so that the consummate cataphract would be able to tolerate the job of slaughtering infantry from horseback without suffering back pain due to poor posture or lack of support. Gotta bring a doctor's letter to the ergo lugal or else they won't approve the request.
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FAUXTON posted:I'm giggling at the prospect of a saddle with a set of ergonomic adjustment knobs and levers so that the consummate cataphract would be able to tolerate the job of slaughtering infantry from horseback without suffering back pain due to poor posture or lack of support.  I'm going to send a request up to make pikes more comfortable, I hope someone will listen to me! FAUXTON posted:How exactly did the pre-stirrup Cataphract stay in the saddle? Did they just build out a bucket seat on the horse like I'm imagining? And some breeds have survived, like these beautiful dudes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friesian_horse HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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FAUXTON posted:How exactly did the pre-stirrup Cataphract stay in the saddle? Did they just build out a bucket seat on the horse like I'm imagining? Medieval warhorses actually weren't particularly big as horses go. Compared to draft horses they really didn't have to be super strong...they didn't haul that much weight. Horse armor weighed maybe 100 lbs, plus an armored rider, which is a fraction of what a good draft horse might pull around. Warhorses were basically comparable to modern sport horses; a good combination of strength, agility, and hardiness. Draft horses really weren't optimal in this respect, they were bred more for slowly hauling huge loads over long distances (obviously). That being said medieval draft horses were about the same size as warhoses from that era (that is, much smaller than modern draft horses) which I think is where the idea that warhorses were huge kind of stems from.
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TheLovablePlutonis posted:Are there any records of normal infantry/cavalry troops beating an equal amount of horse archers? Ain Jalut doesn't count because the Mamlukes had horse archers of their own. It's never just an army of horsearchers.
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Animal posted:Were there rudimentary versions of the stirrup in antiquity, or is it an invention that truly slipped the cracks until way later? It would make sense that the stirrup came later since the thought process probably went "oh, I'm getting jarred off my horse when I hit things, so I'll put a backboard on the saddle to brace me against that." Stirrups aren't obviously connected to preventing that if you don't immediately know how they work by bracing the rider laterally and giving them a place to plant their feet. Eventually someone got their foot caught in a strap or something and realized it would give them leverage the cataphract's battleseatthing couldn't.
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