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What a shittastic derail.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:03
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Mine was relevant because it's what Ms. Marvel says when she uses her power.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:04
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Grendels Dad posted:Technically every single word in English is either from French (29%), Latin (29%), Germanic languages (26%), Greek (6%) or other languages (6%). Also some proper nouns, I guess. I'm sorry to tell you this, but technically there is no English language, just leftovers from whoever was occupying England at any given moment throughout history. "I was making a joke" are all not words in the English language too.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:47
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Waterhaul posted:But yes Marvel have already distilled their crossover mechanisations to their films. The individual films build up a big event and then the event film basically wipes the slate clean and just re-establishes things from the beginning but now all your favourite characters are here again. Cap 2 did a hell of a lot more slate wiping than Avengers did and none of the plot from Thor 2 or GotG is likely to have any impact until Avengers 3.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:50
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I'd actually argue that the weird thing is that The Avengers didn't really affect the other films much. Black Widow knows Cap now and Loki is captured instead of missing, but other than that, Cap 2 could have come out without the Avengers and Thor 2 could have immediately followed Thor. I am remembering less about Iron Man 3 but I don't recall the events in New York effecting that much. Hell, Bruce Banner hasn't been anything but a cameo since.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:05
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theflyingorc posted:I'd actually argue that the weird thing is that The Avengers didn't really affect the other films much. Black Widow knows Cap now and Loki is captured instead of missing, but other than that, Cap 2 could have come out without the Avengers and Thor 2 could have immediately followed Thor. I am remembering less about Iron Man 3 but I don't recall the events in New York effecting that much. The whole plot of 3 hinged on Avengers as after the invasion Tony was busy making suits due to PTSD.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:10
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bobkatt013 posted:The whole plot of 3 hinged on Avengers as after the invasion Tony was busy making suits due to PTSD. Alright, I guess that's in there, but they pretty easily could have come up with a thousand reasons for "Tony is building suits all the time now".
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Sep 12, 2014 18:16
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I think Cap 2 works ok if you haven't seen/don't remember much of Avengers, so long as you're willing to roll with the stuff they don't explicitly explain. SHIELD is still a covert paramilitary organization vulnerable to threats from within, which is a common enough thing in fiction that you can appreciate the political thriller plot. And three horribly beweaponed flying battleships are still a credible threat even if you haven't seen the original Helicarrier. I did like the joke about Tony sharing repulsorlift technology with SHIELD after getting "an up close and personal" look at the Helicarrier turbines.
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Sep 12, 2014 18:35
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Waterhaul posted:According to the internet Guardians made $588,757,587 worldwide and Avengers made $1,518,594,910 so there will be a lot of people that don't watch both. I don't know, I think Cap 2 did a lot more soft reconning than Avengers did.
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Sep 12, 2014 19:08
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notthegoatseguy posted:I don't know, I think Cap 2 did a lot more soft reconning than Avengers did. My favorite dumb thing in Cap 2 is the guy just walking up and whispering "Hail Hydra" to the other guy in public, surrounded by a bunch of people, and FOR NO REASON. He's just SO EXCITED to be in their secret little Nazi club!
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Sep 12, 2014 19:47
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theflyingorc posted:My favorite dumb thing in Cap 2 is the guy just walking up and whispering "Hail Hydra" to the other guy in public, surrounded by a bunch of people, and FOR NO REASON. He's just SO EXCITED to be in their secret little Nazi club! Well, that's what they say to each other. Plus that was right around the time of them starting to rise up. So it's a little "Hey man. What's up? Are we going to take over the world? Hell yeah bro. You want to get a beer later?"
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Sep 12, 2014 19:54
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CelticPredator posted:Well, that's what they say to each other. Plus that was right around the time of them starting to rise up. So it's a little "Hey man. What's up? Are we going to take over the world? Hell yeah bro. You want to get a beer later?" He's just obviously risking their entire 7-decade conspiracy where the Marvel equivalent of the DoD has been secretly under the control of Nazis. I like to imagine that maybe he's REALLY new to Hydra, like maybe it's Hydra Rush week, and he just wants all the other Nazis to know that he's a really cool guy and they should let him in.
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Sep 12, 2014 19:56
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That's not really dumb. When the murderous insurgency is about to start up, you want to make sure said murderous insurgency knows no to shoot you.
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Sep 12, 2014 19:58
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theflyingorc posted:He's just obviously risking their entire 7-decade conspiracy where the Marvel equivalent of the DoD has been secretly under the control of Nazis. They should've had a really cool secret pass phrase like "Do you have stairs in your house?"
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Sep 12, 2014 20:01
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SirDan3k posted:That's not really dumb. When the murderous insurgency is about to start up, you want to make sure said murderous insurgency knows no to shoot you. Well, now I'm just imagining that Hydra agents don't know each other, so they end up with a lot of evil plots where they're at cross purposes. "ZIS COMPANY NOW BELONGS...TO HYDRA!!!!" "Dude, don't you read the E-mails? This company was founded by Hydra!" "I heff wasted a lot of mein time."
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Sep 12, 2014 20:01
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theflyingorc posted:Well, now I'm just imagining that Hydra agents don't know each other, so they end up with a lot of evil plots where they're at cross purposes. I really really like this idea. I'm going to be thinking about this idea and giggling for the rest of the weekend. This was a good post and has improved the thread in light of whatever was going on with that derail about fiction and English.
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Sep 12, 2014 22:07
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theflyingorc posted:Well, now I'm just imagining that Hydra agents don't know each other, so they end up with a lot of evil plots where they're at cross purposes. I would be stunned if this didn't happen all the time with actual secret agencies, evil and "good" alike.
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Sep 13, 2014 00:00
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theflyingorc posted:My favorite dumb thing in Cap 2 is the guy just walking up and whispering "Hail Hydra" to the other guy in public, surrounded by a bunch of people, and FOR NO REASON. He's just SO EXCITED to be in their secret little Nazi club! Was it Sitwell and that senator from Iron Man 2 who wanted Stark to share technology with the military?
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Sep 13, 2014 00:04
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The MSJ posted:Was it Sitwell and that senator from Iron Man 2 who wanted Stark to share technology with the military? also SHIELD dug up the old Hydra weapons seen in Cap 1 that show up in some crates in Avengers. It seems pretty clear that at the beginning of the Avengers, HYDRA was ready to use the Tesseract energy to reactivate those weapons/create better ones until Loki shows up and ruins everything.
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Sep 13, 2014 00:08
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The MSJ posted:Was it Sitwell and that senator from Iron Man 2 who wanted Stark to share technology with the military? "That senator"? It's Garry Shandling, if The Larry Sanders Show was still on there'd be an entire arc where Larry or Hank was obsessing about getting into Hydra, with Hank blowing it in the end when he HAIL HYDRA-ed during the opening monologue.
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Sep 14, 2014 05:03
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Zachack posted:"That senator"? It's Garry Shandling, if The Larry Sanders Show was still on there'd be an entire arc where Larry or Hank was obsessing about getting into Hydra, with Hank blowing it in the end when he HAIL HYDRA-ed during the opening monologue. I want a Marvel one-shot starring "Heil Now" Hank Kingsley so bad that I can't stand it, look what you've done to me.
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Sep 14, 2014 06:06
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Would you believe The Punisher was in Captain America 2? http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/notyetamovie/news/?a=107579
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Sep 15, 2014 04:20
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sleepingbuddha posted:Would you believe The Punisher was in Captain America 2? I would say pegging that vague description as Punisher is a bit of a leap.
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Sep 15, 2014 04:35
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That is some clickbait bs.
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Sep 15, 2014 04:49
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They're clearly describing Liam Neeson.
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Sep 15, 2014 04:49
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Deadpool posted:I would say pegging that vague description as Punisher is a bit of a leap. Yea it's obviously Wolverine
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Sep 15, 2014 05:54
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It was US 1!
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Sep 15, 2014 05:59
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NienNunb posted:Yea it's obviously Wolverine Look at that color scheme of that truck. It's obviously Sentry.
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Sep 15, 2014 06:11
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Aphrodite posted:They're clearly describing Liam Neeson. Yeah that's where my brain went from the description.
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Sep 15, 2014 07:00
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Aphrodite posted:They're clearly describing Liam Neeson. Suddenly I want a movie with Liam Neeson playing an older Frank Castle.
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Sep 15, 2014 07:07
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They're not satisfied with just stealing Wonder Woman, now they're going after Ra's too.
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Sep 15, 2014 07:11
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RyuujinBlueZ posted:Suddenly I want a movie with Liam Neeson playing an older Frank Castle. I'm sorry, that idea is already Taken.
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Sep 15, 2014 09:55
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Come on, Taken is clearly based on a retired Moon Knight.
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Sep 15, 2014 12:44
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I didn't see any faceless ghosts haunting Neeson in Taken.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:49
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Kingtheninja posted:I didn't see any faceless ghosts haunting Neeson in Taken. Well duh, they're ghosts.
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Sep 15, 2014 16:51
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Aphrodite posted:Well duh, they're ghosts. They saw what he did to those sex traffickers and went "gently caress this, let's go haunt Ben Stiller"
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Sep 15, 2014 17:00
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Kingtheninja posted:I didn't see any faceless ghosts haunting Neeson in Taken. Liam Neeson is haunted by one ghost in every movie he makes, we just can't see her.
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Sep 15, 2014 18:24
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Slugworth posted:Liam Neeson is haunted by one ghost in every movie he makes, we just can't see her. This is very true and really  Anyway, Neeson as Doctor Strange?
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Sep 15, 2014 18:26
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Slugworth posted:Liam Neeson is haunted by one ghost in every movie he makes, we just can't see her.
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Slugworth posted:Liam Neeson is haunted by one ghost in every movie he makes, we just can't see her. Man I just got really sad. He has said in interviews that the reason he has taken all these crazy roles and is always trying to work is so he doesn't have to be alone since she died.  Edit: I think they were talking about that in the tv show thread. Shawn fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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