Preoptopus posted:

Hey I just want peace on earth and every single motherfucking Russian speaker slaughtered.

Signed every panty twisted fool up in this thread. Honestly.

Mokotow posted:

Well, I'm not on the ground down there; I've been following pretty much all foreign correspondents and the stuff they've published in the last few months, and there has been very little mention of the army anywhere.

Just to expand, though - the Ukrainian Army has been holding back in most of the operations. Pretty much the only place they did push is Donetsk, the airport in particular. The army has been upfront on that one, and their offensive collapsed. Luhansk, on the other hand, was mostly stormed by the battalions. Mariupol last week was a great example, too - the army units were in the city proper, while the battalions ran recon and manned checkpoints towards the front. But even so, whatever the army is throwing to the front is extremely limited. It's either that these units are held in reserve as last resort protection, or they're unable to operate in a fully operational capacity.

There's the additional problem here of actually separating what an actual Ukrainian Army is - the battalions are receiving supplies and arms from the government; Army units don't even have uniforms.

I don't speak Ukrainian; what is the beginning date of data collection on that site?

Preoptopus posted:

Hey I just want peace on earth and every single motherfucking Russian speaker slaughtered.

Majorian posted:

There's a difference in degrees though. I mean, you can see that, right? I'm not saying the degree of motivation that would lead to Poroshenko's downfall definitively isn't there, but I'd be surprised if it were. I don't think a crowd caring enough to rough up an MP translates directly into the population of Kiev pouring out into the streets and shutting the city down until Poroshenko resigns.

Rinkles posted:

BattleMaster posted:

This isn't the first time I've seen a Russian wearing multiple watches.

Pellisworth posted:

I think those dudes are Italian, though?

Pellisworth posted:

I think those dudes are Italian, though?

Present posted:

I think were talking about slightly different things. Theres passion for the future of the country, and a lot of it. People definitely care.

Near as I can tell from watching/reading Ukrainian news, a lot of people aren't too happy with the year's delay. But not to the extreme level that you're talking about. Poroshenkos govmt still has the trust of the people. I think a lot of it is tourchinov/yatsenuk. Those two dudes got the country through some tough times mang.

redscare posted:

Yup, they're Lega Nord (you can see the logo on the arm), which is kind of like the Italian equivalent of the National Front.

Dolash posted:

There were also those French politicians who visited Russia recently in solidarity. This whole crisis has been a great chance for Europe's ideological sludge to float to the top.

jonnypeh posted:

How about the competence of that fellow who ordered a landing of Ukrainian troops on an airport held by hostile forces. Surprisingly, their plane got shot down!

OddObserver posted:

So question for folks who know military stuff: how big would a
"Battalion-Tactical Group" be? http://www.radiosvoboda.org/content/article/26588721.html
has Breedlove saying there were a "maximum of ten" such Russian
units on Ukrainian territory, with the number down to about 4 (with the rest being right
across the border and ready to return).

eXXon posted:

Ah, the fine folks responsible for this tasteful poster, which is plenty offensive without even knowing what the text says.


Are communists still on board with Putin/Russia, and if so how do they feel about being on the same side as far-right/fascists?

Sandweed posted:

As long as Putin is seen as an enemy of the USA they will be aboard. It's frankly disgusting how some of my far left friends are cheering for people like Putin, Qaddafi and Assad.

Majorian posted:

Yeah, well, it wasn't so long ago when far lefties were cheering for Ceaușescu, Honecker, and Hoxha.

Plus there are those today who think it's totally okay to call themselves Stalinists or Maoists.

Sandweed posted:

As long as Putin is seen as an enemy of the USA they will be aboard. It's frankly disgusting how some of my far left friends are cheering for people like Putin, Qaddafi and Assad.

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Norwegian manufacturers have found ways around fish supply in Russia: salmon and trout are in Belarus and the Baltic countries, after work-up, the new customs code that allows you to send products to Russia, according to Norwegian newspaper Dagens Naeringsliv, citing data from companies and industry organizations.

Thus, in the 36th week of the year (1-7 September), exports of fresh salmon from Norway to Belarus jumped threefold.

As reported, Norway in August reduced the export of seafood in Russia by 82% compared with the same month last year due to imposed restrictions on the supply of the Russian Federation of European food. In this case, the general supply of salmon abroad rose in August by 11% in volume terms and by 3% in value, despite the decline in prices.

RF is the third largest importer of Norwegian salmon in July, it accounted for more than 9% of export revenue, or 322 million Norwegian crowns ($ 54 million).

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Prime Minister Alexander Zaharchenko DNI said that the leadership does not want to allow the DNR Ukrainian authorities for the organization and holding of early local elections in the Donbass December 7. On it informs "Interfax".

"We have our own Supreme Council, and we are going to decide when and how we conduct elections. No elections organized by the Ukraine, we will not be done "-" Interfax "quotes the prime minister of the breakaway republic.

Earlier, the Verkhovna Rada adopted the law on the special status of Donbass and appointed a special election to local authorities on December 7. According to the document, the Cabinet of Ministers and other central bodies of executive power will be able to sign with the relevant local authorities an agreement on economic, social and cultural development of the individual regions.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

The amount of Norwegian salmon exported to Belarus as recently tripled.

http://www.interfax.by/news/belarus/1166917

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Trading of shares of Yevtushenkov's Sistema on the Moscow stock Exchange suspended due to drop by more than 20%



It appears Yevstushenkov was arrested by Russian authorities for money laundering. http://www.rferl.org/content/evtushenko-arrested-russia-sistema-money-laundering-charge/26588656.html

OddObserver posted:

(Made in Belarus)

Ardennes posted:

Looks like Putin is going be running my ISP.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

With Mail.Ru now owning 100% of VKontakte as of yesterday, how will that change how the social network functions?

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/09/16/russia-mailru-group-vkontakte-idUSL6N0RH28K20140916

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As part of its military buildup in recently-annexed Crimea, the Russian military is deploying the first of six new ultra-quiet Kilo-class submarines to the Black Sea Fleet, a military spokesperson said Wednesday.

Earlier on Wednesday, Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu called the buildup of Russian forces in Crimea a top priority for the military, as "the situation in Ukraine has escalated sharply and the presence of foreign military has increased in the immediate vicinity of our borders," news agency TASS reported.

Russia seized Crimea from Ukraine in March, prompting an international crisis that has been deepened by bloodletting in eastern Ukraine, where the West accuses Moscow of supporting pro-Russian separatist militias.

The new stealth submarine, named the Novorossiisk, is still in St. Petersburg, awaiting transfer to the Northern Fleet for its final sea trials and cruise-missile tests, a spokesperson for the Southern Military District told RIA Novosti Wednesday. After completion of these final tests, the boat will be deployed in Sevastopol — home of the Black Sea Fleet.

An update to the classic Kilo-class diesel-electric submarine design, the Novorossiisk is quieter than most of the nuclear powered submarines that Russia operates, such as the new Yasen-class attack submarines that are being built for the Northern Fleet. While the Yasens are designed for long-range deployments in the deep oceans, diesel-electric submarines like the Kilos are suited for operations close to home in shallow waters.

The Black Sea Fleet will receive 6 brand-new Kilo-class submarines by 2016. The second boat under construction, the Rostov-on-Don, was launched in July, while the third and fourth vessels — the Stary Oskol and Krasnodar — are still under construction. Two more boats will be laid down for construction within the next two years.

Russia has built a great many Kilos over the years, as they are a popular export item for the defense industry. Since their introduction in the 1980s, Russia has exported 19 of the submarines to China, Iran and India, according to the Nuclear Threat Initiative, a nonprofit organization that tracks the proliferation behaviors of major world powers.

OddObserver posted:

http://ru.krymr.com/content/article/26590238.html

Russian Authorities ordered the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people out of their building your in 24 hours. This building was also recently searched by authorities and raided by unknown armed masked men (who removed the Ukrainian flag).

OddObserver posted:

(Made in Belarus)

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Soviet and Russian director Yuri Kara offered in response to Western sanctions against Russia in the Russian hire ban all American films. This statement he made at the expert meeting, which conducts the Russian Popular Front (ONF) in Moscow on Wednesday.

"I believe that at that time, as there are sanctions they (the United States), it is necessary to ban all American films to be shown in our cinemas, the same thing can be done on television. Or, at any rate, it is possible to warn them, to threaten" - quoted by RIA "Novosti" Kara's statement, made ​​at a meeting on the draft "Principles of state cultural policy."

According to him, it will benefit Russian cinema - allow go hire a greater number of domestic films. Kara said he did not have enough in the industry and films about national heroes.

Yuri Kara - director and screenwriter. Author movies "Tomorrow Was the War", "The Master and Margarita", "Thieves in Law". A confidant of President Vladimir Putin.

A similar, but more modest proposal was made after the meeting, director, co-chairman of the Central Staff of the ONF Stanislav Govorukhin. He believes that it is necessary to limit the display of American films in Russia and increase the proportion of European, Korean and Iranian cinema.

"I think it would be good to limit the Hollywood movie on Russian screens, but not at the expense of Russian cinema, we produce about 60 pictures, but due to a movie, filmed in countries with a rich cinematic culture - Turkey, Korea, Iran, Japan, the European cinema "- quoted Govorukhina ITAR-TASS.

"And then we look only Hollywood movies and rarely Iranian cinema," - he added.

In this Govoruhin stressed that "it should be a soft policy, but I have no idea how to do it practically."

Recall Stanislav Govorukhin is one of the initiators caused controversy in the cultural community of the law prohibiting profanity with public performance of works of literature and art, folk art in theatrical productions, concerts and other entertainment and recreational activities, as well as in the media and when showing movies in movie theaters.

We also note that this is not the first initiative "clean up" the Russian hire of foreign cinema. In April of this year, Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev instructed the government to study the issue of the possibility of imposing customs duties on importation into the territory of the Russian Federation of foreign films with low commercial potential and to introduce targeted deductions from theatrical distribution of foreign films.

Ministry of Economic Development, Ministry of Culture and the Ministry of Finance instructed to analyze the possibility of exemption from value added tax of advertising services rendered to domestic film production companies in order to promote the films. As state support organizations are invited to provide cinematography grants or tax incentives.

On Restriction of importation "of foreign films with low commercial potential," said at a meeting on March 26, Minister of Culture Vladimir Medina, complained that the Russian hire, in particular, "clog" foreign films category "B", that is, low-cost commercial paintings, which are imported into the country within the package deals with local distributors Hollywood majors. Such films Minister proposed to impose a "reasonable fee".

Over the past two years, the State Duma has repeatedly proposed various mechanisms to limit foreign film in Russian cinema, but no initiative was eventually supported by the Chamber.

In December 2012 United Russia deputy Sergei Zhelezniak introduced a bill to impose quotas on Russian paintings in the national box office. It was assumed that in 2013 the share of domestic films in Russian cinemas must be at least 20%, while in 2014 the share of domestic films in the show will be set by the government.

The document also called for fines ranging from 100 to 400 thousand. rubles for each fact of violation of the legislation on the part of distributors.

In February last year, a deputy from the Liberal Democratic Party Dmitry Litvintsev introduced a bill, which not only introduced limits on the number of foreign films in cinemas in Russia, but also set limits on movie making in Russia.

The bill allowed the creation of the film in Russia only on the condition that not less than 60% of the actors are Russian citizens, and among the rest of the film is not less than 40% of Russians.

HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:

Now how will Belarus repackage this commodity to make it acceptable for Russians?

http://newsru.com/cinema/17sep2014/karagov.html

eXXon posted:

Are communists still on board with Putin/Russia, and if so how do they feel about being on the same side as far-right/fascists?

CeeJee posted:

Aren't all American movies already pirated and dubbed by one guy doing all dialogues in the same voice ?

Ardennes posted:

Cultural exposure is how a lot of people learn foreign languages in the first place.