Tools! - Crimpin ain't easy but it is necessary.

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spog: Aug 7, 2004; It's your own bloody fault.

Cakefool posted:

Either Clarke or Sealey do a 24v jobbie rated to 320-odd Nm that'll hurt if you're limp wristed and it catches you unawares. You can normally pick them up for about a ton with 2 batteries. Don't know if it'll do the landy though.

E: there's a 450Nm (332lb ft) version for £130 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-24V-...s+impact+wrench

Surely the standard tool for Landy wheelnuts is a 6 foot long scaff pole?

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kastein: Aug 31, 2011; Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Was gonna say the same thing, a 20 quid length of gas pipe will turn jumping on the 4-way and whacking your shins with the other end into a one-arm lazy pull.

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cakesmith handyman: Jul 22, 2007; Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Whilst technically cordless, a 6ft scaffold bar is not an impact wrench.

That would be cheaper though.

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kastein: Aug 31, 2011; Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

It is if you use a hammer on the far end :v:

(I've used my gearwrenches as "impact wrenches". Place on bolt to be loosened, strike far end with 8lb sledge. Works great but expect to exercise the warranty every half dozen uses. Yes, I know what an actual impact is...)

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cakesmith handyman: Jul 22, 2007; Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

I dare'nt do that with anything more complex than a ring spanner, but I did once figure out how to hit two ends of a wheel brace at once, with 2 hammers. I've since bought a larger hammer, which made me realise I need a bigger hammer.

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Colonel K: Jun 29, 2009

It's a bit pricey but I bought the IR cordless 1/2 impact and it's been fantastic. I've not managed to stop it yet, and it dismantled a v8 90 from the 80s that lived on a dairy farm.

# ? Sep 9, 2014 21:42

Tomarse: Mar 7, 2001; Grr

I need to get myself a decent 6ft bit of gas pipe...

Cakefool posted:

Either Clarke or Sealey do a 24v jobbie rated to 320-odd Nm that'll hurt if you're limp wristed and it catches you unawares. You can normally pick them up for about a ton with 2 batteries. Don't know if it'll do the landy though.

E: there's a 450Nm (332lb ft) version for £130 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Clarke-24V-...s+impact+wrench

cheers - will check them out!

The IR version is probably outside my price range

I weigh 88kg, and my current breaker bar is 70cm long. I had to jump on it to crack off all of the nuts on the wheel I took off tonight. If my maths is right that is about 600Nm?

If I had an electric impact I might not leave it so long in between taking the wheels off, so 450Nm might do it...

It pisses me off that all 4 of the centre hub caps on the landrover leak and consequentially all the hubs are disgusting and there are oil marks on the wheels and tyres. On the front wheels the swivel seals drip and there is oil on the inside of the wheel and the inner tyre wall. Despite this none of the oil has made it to either the wheel nuts which are rusted to the wheel or the inner ring of the drum where it is rusted to the hub..

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EKDS5k: Feb 22, 2012; THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET YOUR BEER FREEZE, DAMNIT

kastein posted:

It is if you use a hammer on the far end

(I've used my gearwrenches as "impact wrenches". Place on bolt to be loosened, strike far end with 8lb sledge. Works great but expect to exercise the warranty every half dozen uses. Yes, I know what an actual impact is...)

Everything is an impact wrench at least once. Wrenches, gearwrenches, ratchets...sockets with a piece of metal welded onto the side. The only thing I haven't used a hammer on is that impact too specifically designed to be beaten with one.

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CarForumPoster: Jun 26, 2013; â¡POWERâ¡

revmoo posted:

The HF ratcheting crimper I have is garbage. Even on the tightest adjustment 100% of my crimps fail the tug test. With the lovely red-handle Radio Shack crimpers 90% of my crimps pass the test.

My first mech eng internship was for a milspec electrical tool company. I conducted tensile pullout tests as part of it. The HF crimper I tried could make milspec tensile strength crimps with milspec wire/milspec RBY temrinals, UL tensile strength (less, failed milspec) with UL listed terminals and milspec wire, and 14lb pullout that failed both with HF terminals and milspec wire. UL terminals on some Walmart wire that was not UL listed on the sheathing or packaging could would also not pass even ULs fairly low tensile strength requirements. The crimper on last click before ratchewt release would gauge the correct diameter for all three cavities on two, .001 oversize on the third.

It is probably not the crimper.

Using RBY terminals from or wire from Walmart or HF or ebay is ASKING for a fire. DONT DO IT.

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Google Butt: Oct 4, 2005; Xenology is an unnatural mixture of science fiction and formal logic. At its core is a flawed assumption...

that an alien race would be psychologically human.

Which ratcheting box end set is the one to get at hf, the polished ones or that colored set?

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Turbo Fondant: Oct 25, 2010

So I've got a '90s single bay Beach box at work, and although I love the thing to death I'm pushing pretty close to its capacity. I've been casting my eyes around, and while I'm really tempted by the lower-end Matco stuff (and we just got a Matco rep at my shop 3 weeks ago, been waiting years for them to come to Canada), but something big enough for my needs is somewhere north of $5k, and I'm not about to take out a loan of that size for a steel box that doesn't move under its own power. Everything else I can find around here either sucks hardcore or is just as expensive as Snappy/Mac/Matco.
So my search led me to the legendary HF boxes, specifically the 56". I've got vacation days to burn and I've been looking for an excuse to drive across the border (never been outside Canada). Of course I can't see one in person without leaving the country and most of the people singing the praises of these boxes use them at home. Anyone know how they hold up in a shop situation? Specifically I roll my box across the shop about once a day on average and it'll be loaded a bit more heavily than the average box.
Another question, how does the 56" compare to the 44"? I see the casters are different, are they pretty much the same thing otherwise?

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Chauncey: Sep 16, 2007; Gibbering
Fathead

The 44" has the ability to add a top chest and side cabinet and chest that were designed to fit. Though you could surely add the same to the 56" it wouldn't look as nice. This assumes you want to add capacity later.

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Turbo Fondant: Oct 25, 2010

I work in a 10 man shop that has all of 2 usable benches, so a top chest isn't practical for me anyway. I have a top chest for the Beach that would (temporarily) solve my storage problems, but I just need the space on top too badly for it to work so it's still sitting there in storage.

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McSpatula: Aug 5, 2006

Tommychu posted:

So I've got a '90s single bay Beach box at work, and although I love the thing to death I'm pushing pretty close to its capacity. I've been casting my eyes around, and while I'm really tempted by the lower-end Matco stuff (and we just got a Matco rep at my shop 3 weeks ago, been waiting years for them to come to Canada), but something big enough for my needs is somewhere north of $5k, and I'm not about to take out a loan of that size for a steel box that doesn't move under its own power. Everything else I can find around here either sucks hardcore or is just as expensive as Snappy/Mac/Matco.
So my search led me to the legendary HF boxes, specifically the 56". I've got vacation days to burn and I've been looking for an excuse to drive across the border (never been outside Canada). Of course I can't see one in person without leaving the country and most of the people singing the praises of these boxes use them at home. Anyone know how they hold up in a shop situation? Specifically I roll my box across the shop about once a day on average and it'll be loaded a bit more heavily than the average box.
Another question, how does the 56" compare to the 44"? I see the casters are different, are they pretty much the same thing otherwise?

The HF boxes are along the same quality line as the older snap on blue point boxes, so ymmv. You can't beat them for the price, but they need a lot of TLC to keep up with the rest of the high-end fleet in a shop environment.

The drawers suck and break often, but heavy duty slides are cheap to replace, if needed.

Functionalitywise, the 56" has much taller drawers, if you need the headroom, but I've had more than enough room to get a proper shadowbox going in the 44".

Google Butt posted:

Which ratcheting box end set is the one to get at hf, the polished ones or that colored set?

The polished set will look much nicer in the long run. They're made of the same material, but the colored finish tends to scuff off so easily.

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InitialDave: Jun 14, 2007; I Want To Believe.

Tomarse posted:

I need to get myself a decent 6ft bit of gas pipe...

Just use a normal breaker bar. Position it so it's levering against the ground, drive forward/backward (as appropriate) to crack off the nut.

With crossbraces, support the end opposite the nut with an axle stand, jack, lump of wood etc, so it has somethig to pivot on, and then all your effort goes into turning it, not bending/twisdting it off its single point of contact.

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briefcasefullof: Sep 25, 2004; [This Space for Rent]

Snagged the two flex heads I mentioned earlier. Got home and realized I should have grabbed more sockets. Everything I have is medium/light duty stuff - mostly 3/8 and 1/4 in drive and only a couple of sockets bigger than 19mm/ 3/4". Anything I'd actually need to use the flex heads for, I probably don't have a big enough socket for :v:

(Save for lugnuts, I do have that one, at least.)

# ? Sep 14, 2014 14:43

Raluek: Nov 3, 2006; WUT.

Google Butt posted:

Which ratcheting box end set is the one to get at hf, the polished ones or that colored set?

McSpatula posted:

The polished set will look much nicer in the long run. They're made of the same material, but the colored finish tends to scuff off so easily.

If I remember correctly, the pivoting chromed ones have a different mechanism in them than the fixed colored ones. The chromed ones felt much smoother; the colored ones felt much more primitive. I'd go there and feel the action on both to make sure. I got the pivoting chrome set, and it's been pretty good. They do jam up if you put too much torque on them, though. Not as nice as the Gearwrench ones, but an entire set of the HF ones costs about as much as an individual Gearwrench.

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EKDS5k: Feb 22, 2012; THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU LET YOUR BEER FREEZE, DAMNIT

I don't have a suggestion for which tool box to buy, but I did manage to get this off the Snap On truck last Friday:

$800, he said he picked it up the day before as a trade in, some other mechanic in the area bought a brand new box. It's a cabinet, with a top box, and two side cabinets that also have their own top box, and the whole thing is bolted together and mounted on a 6-castor platform. I never thought I would buy a Snap On box, but for that price, for that much box, I just couldn't pass it up. I gotta say I really enjoy not having a poo poo load of tools dumped in a single drawer/stashed in a bag on the floor. He said it's probably a late 80s model, top of the line for its time, and it matches up pretty perfectly with a '91 catalogue I found online, so I guess it's about 25 years old. All the sliders, latches, doors, locks, etc work perfectly. Here's hoping it lasts another 25 years.

Managed to sell my old box, a 30" stainless steel Mastercraft, by 9:30am the next day, too.

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Wasabi the J: Jan 23, 2008; MOM WAS RIGHT