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Anyone who thinks an iPhone coming with 16GB that you don't have to buy is "the single-most disappointing aspect of the new phone" probably cries when they cut slices of Velveeta.
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I still can't arrange icons or folders vertically in iOS8, how long must I wait Apple?! 
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Sep 18, 2014 02:39
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I'm bummed (and annoyed) Apple ditched the "Camera Roll" album from the photo app and turned it into "Recent Photos". Yes, I know you can tap photos on the left and go into the collections/year/etc view, but it's annoying and not as good/fun/quick as infinitely scrolling up the camera roll. Maybe they're forcing people to throw images into albums and sort everything that way. But still, I know so many people who just used the camera roll and that was that. Wonder if Apple brings that back "due to popular demand".
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Sep 18, 2014 02:41
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jiffynuts posted:I'm bummed (and annoyed) Apple ditched the "Camera Roll" album from the photo app and turned it into "Recent Photos". Yes, I know you can tap photos on the left and go into the collections/year/etc view, but it's annoying and not as good/fun/quick as infinitely scrolling up the camera roll. Maybe they're forcing people to throw images into albums and sort everything that way. But still, I know so many people who just used the camera roll and that was that. Wonder if Apple brings that back "due to popular demand". A dumb workaround would be to open up any app that has access to your photos like Facebook or Twitter and endlessly scroll through your available photos there.
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Sep 18, 2014 02:42
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noirstronaut posted:Anyone who thinks an iPhone coming with 16GB that you don't have to buy is "the single-most disappointing aspect of the new phone" probably cries when they cut slices of Velveeta. Apple should not be putting out a crippled product. Period. "You don't have to buy it" is the most non-excuse excuse imaginable.
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Sep 18, 2014 02:50
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This is a pretty great review of the 6 and 6+ in real-world situations: http://techcrunch.com/2014/09/17/life-is-tough/ A dude takes them both to Disneyland - apparently the 6+ lasted two full days with pretty decent usage (games in line, taking photos, making calls/messages etc). Check out the video of him on Thunder Mountain Railroad, the image stabilisation looks amazing!
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Sep 18, 2014 02:55
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fleshweasel posted:Apple should not be putting out a crippled product. Period. "You don't have to buy it" is the most non-excuse excuse imaginable.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:00
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Whirlwind Jones posted:A dumb workaround would be to open up any app that has access to your photos like Facebook or Twitter and endlessly scroll through your available photos there. It is dumb, since some apps don't have that view (TweetBot uses the new view, for example) and none of them let you do the stuff that you would want to do: email, upload to different places, edit, delete, etc. Super glad to know the exact date I took those two photos though!  Having a 16gb phone that records HD 120FPS video is Very Dumb, and I can only imagine the math didn't work out enough in Apple's favor to make the default 32gb. I wouldn't call it "disappointing" but it's definitely going to be one of those weird models no one has in a few years. So far the highlights of iOS8 to me are Family Sharing (no more double dipping on apps/music, or using the incredibly awkward Home Sharing!) and the Details tab in the Messages app.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:01
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Whirlwind Jones posted:Time will tell if it will be enough of an issue to create a backlash. I have a feeling it won't. It won't because 99% don't care.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:01
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fleshweasel posted:Apple should not be putting out a crippled product. Period. "You don't have to buy it" is the most non-excuse excuse imaginable. Except it isn't crippled by any substantive definition? As far as I know, the 16GB models sold out first -- again. To me that suggests that it isn't "crippled" for the average consumer. The only people bitching about it seem to be phone spergs.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:02
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Apple is apparently telling law enforcement to go pound sand to recover data off ios 8 now:quote:“On devices running iOS 8, your personal data such as photos, messages (including attachments), email, contacts, call history, iTunes content, notes, and reminders is placed under the protection of your passcode,” Apple said on its Web site. “Unlike our competitors, Apple cannot bypass your passcode and therefore cannot access this data. So it’s not technically feasible for us to respond to government warrants for the extraction of this data from devices in their possession running iOS 8.” http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/technology/2014/09/17/2612af58-3ed2-11e4-b03f-de718edeb92f_story.html
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Sep 18, 2014 03:02
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My wife now has multiple Family Sharing invites from me. * If she Accepts, it either says the invite has expired, or that she can only start or join a Family account twice every 364 days. * If she Declines, it says she is already a member of Family group. So... what the heck can she do with this invite? There is a (1) next to her iCloud now, indicating this invite that won't go away. Has anyone seen this before? Did this happen during beta? Neither one of us has had an iOS 8 beta installed.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:05
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jiffynuts posted:I'm bummed (and annoyed) Apple ditched the "Camera Roll" album from the photo app and turned it into "Recent Photos". Yes, I know you can tap photos on the left and go into the collections/year/etc view, but it's annoying and not as good/fun/quick as infinitely scrolling up the camera roll. Maybe they're forcing people to throw images into albums and sort everything that way. But still, I know so many people who just used the camera roll and that was that. Wonder if Apple brings that back "due to popular demand". Yeah, this is really annoying. It also added a folder called "oldpics" that says "from my Mac" under it and it can't be deleted at all -- the album can't be deleted and the pictures can't be deleted. The weird thing is, I don't have "sync photos" or whatever selected in iTunes, and I can't find the photos or this "oldpics" folder on my Mac at all. They're definitely my photos from last month, but they're not on my computer and now I can't remove them from my iPhone. 
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Sep 18, 2014 03:06
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fleshweasel posted:Apple should not be putting out a crippled product. Period. "You don't have to buy it" is the most non-excuse excuse imaginable. The problem is that it's not a crippled product. You don't have to buy the 16GB version of the phone, get the 64 for $100 more. Complaining about the 16GB being too small when you aren't buying that size is akin to complaining about the fit of women's underwear on your balls.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:07
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fordan posted:Apple is apparently telling law enforcement to go pound sand to recover data off ios 8 now: For those who are interested in more in-depth technical information about the security measures they use, they've also updated their security whitepaper: http://images.apple.com/privacy/docs/iOS_Security_Guide_Sept_2014.pdf The big changes seem to be new technologies relating to iOS 8, such as Handoff, SMS/Phone call relay, Instant Hotspot, etc. Xenomorph posted:My wife now has multiple Family Sharing invites from me. I would try rebooting her phone before trying to troubleshoot any further, might fix it.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:07
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the kawaiiest posted:Yeah, this is really annoying. It also added a folder called "oldpics" that says "from my Mac" under it and it can't be deleted at all -- the album can't be deleted and the pictures can't be deleted. The weird thing is, I don't have "sync photos" or whatever selected in iTunes, and I can't find the photos or this "oldpics" folder on my Mac at all. They're definitely my photos from last month, but they're not on my computer and now I can't remove them from my iPhone.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:11
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People having to janitor their 16gb phones is pretty common. Pushing the upper limits of your storage even when you keep all your media in clouds and don't install many big apps is standard at that size. Especially when iPhones aren't that good about keeping the camera roll with Photo Stream enabled and the iTunes Match cache slim by themselves. Honestly, I'm as big of an Apple fan as anyone, but it's wearying to see that it's standard practice in here to just cry "sperg" whenever people point out Apple's shortcomings.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:13
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I think there are, oddly enough, a great many consumers of phones who purchase the smallest phones (16gb or otherwise) out of some strange guilt for buying new and expensive technology. In some cases it's almost self-punishment, or a signal that they are austere or that even though they have a smart phone "they don't ever play games, take many pictures, store movies or music" etc. They are mainly boomers or older and there are a great many of them. It's not simply that people don't have money or have no use for space.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:20
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Whirlwind Jones posted:Probably some sort of weird iPhoto/PhotoStream/iCloud carryover. Yeah but it's just so weird, I can't find them on my Mac and I can't delete them off the phone. And it's like a handful of photos from last month, the rest are all in the right place except for these. So strange.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:21
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I don't have iOS 8 yet as I'm jailbroken, but my mother is telling me that swiping all the way left on a mail is sending it to the trash immediately -- is there an option to turn this behavior off?
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Sep 18, 2014 03:39
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spongeworthy posted:my mother is telling me that swiping all the way left on a mail is sending it to the trash immediately spongeworthy posted:is there an option to turn this behavior off? Alternatively enable Ask Before Deleting in the same area.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:42
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Yes this is a new feature. I told her to enable Ask Before Deleting and she claimed it still slid off to the left and removed it without a prompt. I was just hoping there was another way to disable it.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:54
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Realized there's a battery usage by app tracking now in iOS8. Now I never have to wonder what's killing my phone.  Settings > General > Usage > Battery Usage Also, it was Facebook... Time to change some permissions...
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Sep 18, 2014 04:01
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spongeworthy posted:I told her to enable Ask Before Deleting and she claimed it still slid off to the left and removed it without a prompt. I was just hoping there was another way to disable it. Yeah I tried as well. It doesn't ask, just deletes. Seems odd and going to lead to a lot of frustration. Going to flag this email ... And it's gone.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:02
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Realized there's a battery usage by app tracking now in iOS8. Now I never have to wonder what's killing my phone. Yeah this thing is going to be hugely useful, mainly so people realize how much battery life they're giving away by using Facebook with the default options. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's motivation behind this was primarily Facebook because it's insane how much power it uses even if you don't open the app. Dbhjed posted:Yeah I tried as well. It doesn't ask, just deletes. Seems odd and going to lead to a lot of frustration. Going to flag this email ... And it's gone. The key is to realize you don't need to swipe the whole mail to open the menu. A quick flick will show you the options, a full swipe will do the default option (Trash/Archive). But yeah, I'd expect a setting for this to come in a future update (or a fix for the "ask before deleting" setting).
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Sep 18, 2014 04:03
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DarkJC posted:Yeah this thing is going to be hugely useful, mainly so people realize how much battery life they're giving away by using Facebook with the default options. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's motivation behind this was primarily Facebook because it's insane how much power it uses even if you don't open the app. I've had background refresh turned off for Facebook since iOS7 came out and it was still top of the chart according to the usage. It's ridiculous.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:07
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DarkJC posted:The key is to realize you don't need to swipe the whole mail to open the menu. A quick flick will show you the options, a full swipe will do the default option (Trash/Archive). But yeah, I'd expect a setting for this to come in a future update (or a fix for the "ask before deleting" setting). It is way to easy to do a full swipe though. I've been testing it and I've had to try to do a half swipe while the full swipe seems easy to initiate. I guess I'll stick to opening my email to flag for now.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:08
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8-bit Miniboss posted:Realized there's a battery usage by app tracking now in iOS8. Now I never have to wonder what's killing my phone. Just be careful when judging apps based on this list because it doesn't do any kind of adjustment by usage. A single app could be using a huge percentage of your battery if you use it for a huge percentage of time. It's not necessarily bad for some apps to be using more battery than others. That said I definitely adjusted some Facebook settings after seeing how much it used during the betas.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:18
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8-bit Miniboss posted:I've had background refresh turned off for Facebook since iOS7 came out and it was still top of the chart according to the usage. It's ridiculous. Same here, and its above my other apps by far too.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:23
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Kobayashi posted:Even his Gruberness is dissing on Apple for the entry level iPhone having 16 Gb of storage: And even when Apple Fan #1 disses apple, there's people saying they don't owe you a thing and Apple knows business and so on... In this very thread even. It's a poo poo move, I don't care if any other companies do it or not, Apple should do better in 2014
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Sep 18, 2014 04:33
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Diabolik900 posted:Just be careful when judging apps based on this list because it doesn't do any kind of adjustment by usage. A single app could be using a huge percentage of your battery if you use it for a huge percentage of time. It's not necessarily bad for some apps to be using more battery than others. That said I definitely adjusted some Facebook settings after seeing how much it used during the betas. Yep, but considering that Facebook was using at like 3 times more then lower apps, it was a safe bet. I do like that it differentiates on usage if it's because it was in a bad area with low signal.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:38
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I'm confused, what makes Gruber an rear end in a top hat?
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Sep 18, 2014 04:50
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Facebook is the only application that I dont let use location services because it wants to grab it all the loving time regardless of what you're doing.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:53
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Don Tacorleone posted:And even when Apple Fan #1 disses apple, there's people saying they don't owe you a thing and Apple knows business and so on... I think we can all agree that 32 vs. 16 would be better for every user. I don't think the impact on users is necessarily that bad though. There's plenty of people that don't use their phones to the fullest extent, and for them 16GB is plenty. Someone using an iPhone as a pure work phone probably isn't ever going to break 4GB for example.
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Sep 18, 2014 04:57
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I really like that Disney review. The tone of it. Also that sample video on big thunder mountain is so loving impressive.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:04
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Laserface posted:Facebook is the only application that I dont let use location services because it wants to grab it all the loving time regardless of what you're doing. A while back I read something about Facebook pretending to be a GPS tracker so that it could stay active in the background longer than it would have otherwise been allowed to.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:04
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Huh. I was probably at Disneyland the same day he was.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:05
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My wife just had to clean up her 16GB iPhone 5 so she could do an OTA update to iOS 8. She doesn't have a ton of apps though she does take quite a few photos. It really is kind of space constrained.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:06
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My Facebook used up 2% of my battery in the last 24 hours. How exactly is the app a battery hog?
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phongn posted:My wife just had to clean up her 16GB iPhone 5 so she could do an OTA update to iOS 8. She doesn't have a ton of apps though she does take quite a few photos. It really is kind of space constrained. Well the easy solution according to this thread is for your wife to not buy her iphone, or alternatively, to not exist hope this helps
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