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Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Also, for what it's worth, the update looks really nice.

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OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001
Looks like the update is only for Apple TV 3. Do apple TV 2's still sell for crazy megabucks on eBay? I still have a 2, and I jailbroke it once but didn't like it, so now I just use stock. If I can still sell it and buy a 3 and still make a profit, I probably will.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

OldSenileGuy posted:

Looks like the update is only for Apple TV 3.

It's an update to iOS 8, so it won't work with the ATV 2.

OldSenileGuy
Mar 13, 2001

Drastic Actions posted:

It's an update to iOS 8, so it won't work with the ATV 2.

I did get some kind of update, but nothing looks different.

And to answer my own question, it looks like atv2 still does fetch a premium on eBay, but most of the ones on there are already jailbroken.

OldSenileGuy fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Sep 18, 2014

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

Drastic Actions posted:

It's an update to iOS 8, so it won't work with the ATV 2.

Obviously Apple had to cut off support some time, but I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Why is it a given that the Apple tv 2 couldn't get updated to IOS 8?

noirstronaut
Aug 10, 2012

by Cowcaster

Diabolik900 posted:

Obviously Apple had to cut off support some time, but I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Why is it a given that the Apple tv 2 couldn't get updated to IOS 8?

My logic is probably off, but the TV 2 was released in 2010 along with the 4, which can't get iOS 8.

Brock Landers
Jul 28, 2004

You're a donkey. I like that.

Diabolik900 posted:

Obviously Apple had to cut off support some time, but I'm not sure I follow the logic here. Why is it a given that the Apple tv 2 couldn't get updated to IOS 8?

A4 processor doesn't have the power for it most likely. Also, it only has 256mb of ram.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Anyone ever see problems with movies streamed from iTunes on a Mac getting jerky after playing for awhile? Like there will be a scene with what should be a smooth pan but it isn't actually smooth and kinda skips. It gets worse the longer it plays, but if I stop and restart the movie, it fixes it. Not all movies though. Maybe the bitrate is too high?

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

Brock Landers posted:

A4 processor doesn't have the power for it most likely. Also, it only has 256mb of ram.

Yeah, it probably is because of the older internals of the second gen, but I guess I had erroneously assumed that the Apple TV version of iOS is stripped down enough that the requirements of normal iOS aren't really relevant. Now I need to decide whether it's worth upgrading or if I should continue to hold out for new hardware.

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


You're not missing out on much. Isn't family sharing the only real new feature? Is that not in the latest update for the second gen, too?

1997
Jan 20, 2008

calmer than you are
1080p video is the biggest difference.

Diabolik900
Mar 28, 2007

Akuma posted:

You're not missing out on much. Isn't family sharing the only real new feature? Is that not in the latest update for the second gen, too?

There's nothing in this update that I feel like I'm missing out on, it's more about knowing that I'm probably not going to be getting any major new features in the future. I guess the easy answer is to just stick with what I have until there's something I want that it actually can't do, rather than worrying about hypothetical future updates.

smackfu
Jun 7, 2004

Yeah, for instance, you will never get a Beats music channel, even though there's no technical reason it can't be on the ATV 2.

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit
fwiw I sold both of my ATV2s for $200 each on eBay after jailbreaking them, enough to buy 2 refurbished ATV3s and have money in my pocket.

If you have an ATV2 that you aren't using jailbroken it's a no brainer.

Vintimus Prime
Apr 24, 2008

DERRRRRPPP what are picture threads for????

Do you guys think there is any chance of an update this year? I'm really surprised there is not a new model yet. Especially with stiffer competition.

Thwomp
Apr 10, 2003

BA-DUHHH

Grimey Drawer

Vintimus Prime posted:

Do you guys think there is any chance of an update this year? I'm really surprised there is not a new model yet. Especially with stiffer competition.

We'll see if they announce something next month at the (probable) iPad event.

e.pilot posted:

fwiw I sold both of my ATV2s for $200 each on eBay after jailbreaking them, enough to buy 2 refurbished ATV3s and have money in my pocket.

If you have an ATV2 that you aren't using jailbroken it's a no brainer.

Can you still jailbreak an ATV2 even if you've been updating it?

e.pilot
Nov 20, 2011

sometimes maybe good
sometimes maybe shit

Thwomp posted:

We'll see if they announce something next month at the (probable) iPad event.


Can you still jailbreak an ATV2 even if you've been updating it?

Yup, I was able to jailbreak mine this summer after keeping them updated without any problems.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

e.pilot posted:

Yup, I was able to jailbreak mine this summer after keeping them updated without any problems.

To be clear, you can only jailbreak fw version 5.3 on the appletv2. Further, if you didn't save your device's SHSH blobs for 5.3 and it is currently running something like 6.2, you will not be able to downgrade it to 5.3 or jailbreak it.

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Apple is still signing 5.3 (6.1.4) on the atv 2 so no, you don't need to have saved blobs. Just need to have the right ipsw, but that's not too hard to find - here for example.

ed- this means you can also downgrade fine, too (atv 2 only).

Dicty Bojangles fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Sep 21, 2014

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

slomomofo posted:

Apple is still signing 5.3 (6.1.4) on the atv 2 so no, you don't need to have saved blobs. Just need to have the right ipsw, but that's not too hard to find - here for example.

ed- this means you can also downgrade fine, too (atv 2 only).

Whats the correct way to upgrade to this if I'm on an even older version

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Hold alt/option while you click restore in iTunes after connecting the atv to your computer via usb, and then select the ipsw you downloaded. Itunes then does a complete wipe/restore of the atv with the ipsw you selected, and once it's all finished you can go ahead and jailbreak like usual.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack

slomomofo posted:

Hold alt/option while you click restore in iTunes after connecting the atv to your computer via usb, and then select the ipsw you downloaded. Itunes then does a complete wipe/restore of the atv with the ipsw you selected, and once it's all finished you can go ahead and jailbreak like usual.

Thanks, been trying to find info on this for like a year now and didn't know it was possible

so the 6.1.4 is the one I want right?

Dicty Bojangles
Apr 14, 2001

Ayup, iOS 6.1.4 (10B809) released 6/14/13.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
Will do it tonight. Hopefully it allows Amazon instant airplay on that version, currently it says my apple tv software is out of date

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'
Can an Apple TV be set to include ONLY music in the computers menu? Wondering if I can leave videos shared in iTunes, without them actually popping up on the TV. I feel like I had seen an option for this before, but it might have just been within iTunes itself.

SaintFu
Aug 27, 2006

Where's your god now?
Edit: Reread the question, didn't help.

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?

Minidust posted:

Can an Apple TV be set to include ONLY music in the computers menu? Wondering if I can leave videos shared in iTunes, without them actually popping up on the TV. I feel like I had seen an option for this before, but it might have just been within iTunes itself.

Keep your porn out of iTunes I guess?

jungn
Mar 19, 2012
Has anyone been having issues with the remote app since iOS 8? When I first open the app everything works fine but if I go back in to pause or use the controls the app gets into this strange loop where it shows the controls then the library screen and back to controls. The only way I know to fix this is to close the app completely and reopen it. Am I the only one with issues?

cvisors
Sep 24, 2003
Carnage Visors
Sugartime Jones

jungn posted:

Has anyone been having issues with the remote app since iOS 8? When I first open the app everything works fine but if I go back in to pause or use the controls the app gets into this strange loop where it shows the controls then the library screen and back to controls. The only way I know to fix this is to close the app completely and reopen it. Am I the only one with issues?

I've got the same issue too. Only killing and restarting the app seems to fix it, rather annoying as I always keep on misplacing my apple TV remote.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'
Maybe I'm missing something obvious, but how do you get your subscribed podcasts to show up in the Podcasts app? I just get a message saying "You can browse for or subscribe to podcasts in Top Podcasts." I thought maybe the Apple TV just maintains its own independent list of subscriptions, but it seems like there's no option to add/subscribe from a search either. Can you really only add a podcast if you see it on the "Top Podcasts" screen?

Never mind, I see there's a "subscribe" option above the most recent podcast in the feed. Okay!

Minidust fucked around with this message at 15:09 on Oct 11, 2014

nate fisher
Mar 3, 2004

We've Got To Go Back

jungn posted:

Has anyone been having issues with the remote app since iOS 8? When I first open the app everything works fine but if I go back in to pause or use the controls the app gets into this strange loop where it shows the controls then the library screen and back to controls. The only way I know to fix this is to close the app completely and reopen it. Am I the only one with issues?

Since iOS 8, I have an issue with the one of my Apple TVs not showing up under the remote app when its in sleep mode (my MacBook and the bedroom ATV show up). I can see the missing ATV under 'airplay', so I can wake-up it up there or use the physical remote. Once it is awoken that ATV shows up the remote app. The only difference one is an ATV2 and the other is an ATV3 (this is the one not showing). I'm at work I can't remember if they are on the same software version or not (I need to check).

P0PCULTUREREFERENCE
Apr 10, 2009

Your weapons are useless against me!
Fun Shoe
I also have that problem with one of my ATVs - in addition, sometimes my ATVs show up twice in my AirPlay list (once with their name, and once as "Apple TV" and "Apple TV-LC" which has no correlation to their names.) Airplay has also been flakey - one of the ATVs won't airplay video, etc etc.

I think there are some bugs Apple needs to work out with the last ATV update.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
Paging Kenderama Or any other helpful souls who are familiar with the Plex hack on ATv3. (OpenPlex to be specific.)

Today, in trying to make my iMac run better on the network, I went from wireless to wired. I also started up a 5ghz wifi network alongside my 2.4. My ATV is on the 5ghz now. I also updated to 7.0.1 (latest) ATV 3 software.

Even before the update on my ATV, my Plex wasn't working on ATV. I eventually surmised it was because my Mac probably had a new IP now. I manually changed the DNS entry on my ATV to reflect the IP my iMac had. No dice.

I went through re-adding the certificates per the OpenPlex instructions. (http:trailers.apple.com/trailers.cer etc etc...) And would instantly get an error that the ATV could not connect to that to make the certificate. It would fail. Hmmm..

I read that I should try <my mac's IP>/trailers.cer which took just fine on my ATV as a new profile, but I *Still* cannot get it to connect to OpenPlex. When I set OpenPlex to hijack Trailers app (or iMovie Theater app) they both just come up with their regular normal behaviors. (not Plex.)


Please help, if anyone knows... I rely on Plex a TON on my ATV3 to watch movies and stuff with my wife after the kid goes to sleep.

Thanks!

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Did you set your atv's dns to point at your computer's ip?

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

GutBomb posted:

Did you set your atv's dns to point at your computer's ip?

Yes, first thing I did. Sorry, should said so. :)

Kenderama
Mar 12, 2003

Herding Nerds from
2007-2012
Okay some questions for you Feenix :)

1) is your iMac connected/wired to same router that serves your 5ghz network?

Please provide the following info:

iMac: (Under Network System Prefs)


AppleTV:


And finally the results from a ping and trace route to the AppleTV's IP - open your Terminal.app and do the following:


If you can't ping/traceroute it means they are on different networks. (For example, when I was writing up this post I realized my Office AppleTV I use on the treadmill was on my Guest network, which does NOT have access to my iMac's network. Once I moved it to the correct internal network they could see each other. I think that is what is happening with you.)

Hope this helps! I'll check back later / tonight and see how you do. :)

Kenderama fucked around with this message at 14:37 on Nov 8, 2014

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

Kenderama posted:

Okay some questions for you Feenix :)

1) is your iMac connected/wired to same router that serves your 5ghz network?

Please provide the following info:

iMac: (Under Network System Prefs)


AppleTV:


And finally the results from a ping and trace route to the AppleTV's IP - open your Terminal.app and do the following:


If you can't ping/traceroute it means they are on different networks. (For example, when I was writing up this post I realized my Office AppleTV I use on the treadmill was on my Guest network, which does NOT have access to my iMac's network. Once I moved it to the correct internal network they could see each other. I think that is what is happening with you.)

Hope this helps! I'll check back later / tonight and see how you do. :)

You're always such a peach! I came down this morning to capture the info you asked for and [Apple] It just works.[/Apple]

I did nothing new. How bizarre. I'll let you know if I have issues.

Kenderama
Mar 12, 2003

Herding Nerds from
2007-2012

Feenix posted:

You're always such a peach! I came down this morning to capture the info you asked for and [Apple] It just works.[/Apple]

I did nothing new. How bizarre. I'll let you know if I have issues.

No worries! Glad I could scare it into working for you. ^_^

Akuma
Sep 11, 2001


Oh my god has anybody else found AirPlay to be a total chore from iOS 8 devices? What the gently caress did they do that for? I find that half the time I can't even get it to start working (when I select my AppleTV from the list it hangs for a while and then exits the menu with nothing selected) and it almost never works if I'm already watching a video on the phone when I start AirPlay.

God, it was so easy before. Makes me glad I still have an iOS 6 device knocking around to do all my AirPlaying from because it just sucks from my iPhone 5C.

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Keystoned
Jan 27, 2012
I've noticed that lately my Apple TV won't wake up from sleep using the remote app. I have to use the physical remote but then it works fine.

On the other hand I used to have problems with the airplay option not appearing on my 5 at all until I woke up the tv. Now on my 6 it's always there at least, even if it doesn't always work.

Basically I've always found the Apple TV to be kind of finicky. When it works it's great but it can be a chore at times.

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