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TooManyUzukis posted:Originally, there was some slight Shu whitewashing because the original historical record (commissioned by Jin) was compiled by a Shu historian. Even so, there was an even larger Wei bias since Jin had usurped Wei, and thus establishing Wei's legitimacy was paramount to establishing Jin's. TooManyUzukis posted:Finally, the dynasty following the Yuan (the Ming) brought an end to Mongol rule and sought to establish itself as the legitimate successor to the Han. Once again, Shu's struggle against Wei and previous association with the Han made them appear in a favorable light. This is the era in which the original novel was actually written.
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My favorite tidbit I learned was the battle of hulao gate was impossible because it didn't actually exist for another few centuries.
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Tae posted:My favorite tidbit I learned was the battle of hulao gate was impossible because it didn't actually exist for another few centuries.
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Tae posted:My favorite tidbit I learned was the battle of hulao gate was impossible because it didn't actually exist for another few centuries. I believe that the correct name of the battle is Hulao pass. It sounds cooler if you translate it though: the battle of Tiger Trap Pass.
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Sep 15, 2014 05:44
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Oh my gosh, thank you whoever it was who said Ryu was broken. He's amazing even at a third of the levels of everyone else. His Mosou kind of seems to suck, but with his R attack being that, who needs it? Bang, everyone around you is dead, and those guys over there are dead too. Dead from ninja fireballs. Just battered over 1600 dudes in one battle. That was fun. I like the battles that give you tons of enemies and nobody to guard. Warriors Orochi has shot to my favourite of the series so fast. Dynasty Warriors has a huge enough cast as it is but Orochi has even more and it's mad. Plus a fuckton of ninjas. Loads. And Yukimura, who is just great. He needs his Charizard though. 
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Ever since the first Warriors Orochi game, a lot of the really brokenly powerful characters were the ones which had an invincible, spammable, elemental R1 which could reliably sustain itself on Osmosis and the damage it dealt. In this game, it's (in ascending order of brainlessness) guys like Keiji, Nu Wa, Susano, Kaguya, and Mitsuhide who fulfill the Dynasty Warriors stereotype of pressing one button to win a stage--except the button is R1, not Square. WO3 has another generally strong category, which is people with a really good self-buffing R1, usually Wonder-types who can take Typhoon and cancel out of R1 directly into an invincible guard break. Aya, Joan of Arc, Liu Shan, Gracia. Sweet jesus Gracia.
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HJE-Cobra posted:Speaking as someone who is both unfamiliar with ancient China and/or the Romance of Three Kingdoms, and DW8 being my first DW game, it definitely felt a bit hard to follow at times. Lots of names of people and places thrown at me, with new people showing up and disappearing all the time, it was kinda confusing at first. The version of the book I'm reading has it translated as Tiger Trap Pass. I had to look it up to make sure that - yep, this is Hulao Pass I'm reading about. Love it. I'm halfway through the book and Lu Su has to be my favourite character so far. He's just so chill about everything. Shame about Zhou Yu really, he spent the last few chapters getting duped by Grand Strategist Sleeping-Dragon Zhuge Liang until he got so angry he died.
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Keeshhound posted:Jia Chong, Deng Ai and Guo Huai are pretty impeachable. Also, you forgot Ding Feng. I will report for my deserved execution immediately.  Also one of the things I love in the DW/RotK encyclopedias is reading about people who got trolled so hard they died. Stuff like "Zhuge Liang sent This Dude a letter so insulting, This Dude died from rage." or "Was insulted by Cao Cao and died from humiliation." and stuff like that. Unrelenting glory.
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Sep 16, 2014 02:36
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That happens a lot in the 2010 TV show, and it's hilarious every time.
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Zhuge Liang yells at a guy in the middle of a battlefield and just straight up coughs blood and dies because...Zhuge Liang sitting in a wheelchair was too much apparently.
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Sep 16, 2014 05:24
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Zhuge Liang, Sleeping Dragonborn.
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Enallyniv posted:Zhuge Liang, Sleeping Dragonborn. FUS ROH *dies in a wheelchair*
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Minor thing, but DW8 Empires's Gamecity page updated a week back with a music section in the gallery for all your buttrock needs
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Likewise minor, but Knights of Valour 2015 is a thing that is happening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZbLJ3WusQ4&t=44s
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Chortles posted:Likewise minor, but Knights of Valour 2015 is a thing that is happening: Looks very much like an old-school arcadey sidescrolling beat-em-up.
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The GIG posted:Minor thing, but DW8 Empires's Gamecity page updated a week back with a music section in the gallery for all your buttrock needs Got to say, I'm getting hyped for this. Empires always had that 'one more turn' thing that made me accidentally play it until three in the morning. But eventually, you know the game so well that both the battles and strategy side lose any challenge. Hope the new one will find some way to mix up each play through.
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Sep 18, 2014 02:47
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Is DW8 Empires getting a physical release in the US? Probably not, since DW7 Empires and the new Samurai Warriors are all digital, but I figure I'll ask.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:00
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It might. The mainline DW series still gets physical releases. The others are digital only because Sony has weird rules about dubbing in retail releases, iirc (Yakuza was allowed to break them, but not sure why.)
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Sep 18, 2014 03:06
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There are other franchises that have had retail releases with no English voice track, like Agarest and Deception. It's not a requirement. Tecmo Koei just doesn't want to spend a fortune printing and shipping thousands of copies of hyper-niche Warriors spinoffs when the people who buy them will just as well get them digitally.
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Sep 18, 2014 03:08
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Dragon Quest Heroes gameplay footage. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjFCfX7g3Rw
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Mokinokaro posted:It might. The mainline DW series still gets physical releases. The others are digital only because Sony has weird rules about dubbing in retail releases, iirc (Yakuza was allowed to break them, but not sure why.)
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Policenaut posted:Dragon Quest Heroes gameplay footage. I'm really liking DW games with big monsters in them instead of just thousands of regular dudes
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Endorph posted:I think Sony used to have those rules, but they relaxed them long ago. Tons of games get physical releases with no dubs these days. A lot of Compile Heart games don't have dubs, in particular the Agarest War games.
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Policenaut posted:Dragon Quest Heroes gameplay footage. Oh goddamn, all these DQ throwbacks. I was already sold on this but daaaaaamn.
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New trailer for Empires out of TGS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1a_AruyIboc looking at the trailer closer, I saw Yueying with the blade bow labeled as her EX on the HUD so looks like we're getting some more weapon reassignments coming up. The GIG fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Sep 18, 2014 |
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kirbysuperstar posted:Oh goddamn, all these DQ throwbacks. I was already sold on this but daaaaaamn. I'm waiting for this and the special edition PS4 being released alongside it.
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The GIG posted:New trailer for Empires out of TGS no pc? guess we are already being dumped by koei
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Davincie posted:no pc? guess we are already being dumped by koei They won't advertise pc in a trailer primary intended for Japan.
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Aren't Samurai Warriors 4 only subbed? SW4 will be released on physical for PS4. PS3 version is digital only I think.
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The GIG posted:New trailer for Empires out of TGS Gonna miss yueying being able to carve her way through an entire map with one button
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lil baby anime posted:Gonna miss yueying being able to carve her way through an entire map with one button Gonna miss Yueying having a weapon that isn't irredeemably bad.
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I just can't wait for more ridiculous custom characters. My favorite thing in Empires and Next was pro wrestling all of the three kingdoms into submission.
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oblomov posted:Aren't Samurai Warriors 4 only subbed? SW4 will be released on physical for PS4. PS3 version is digital only I think. Probably. Koei doesn't care about dubbing anything other than prime Dynasty Warriors games so you can assume SW4 will be JPN-only.
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I hope they bring back officer relocation from 5:E in some way in 8:E. On one hand it was a pain to have to shuffle people around, but on the other, you have practically zero reason to ever play as anything but your main character in 7:E. I miss having to panic defend a fringe territory with a generic or some guy I never bothered to level up much. Maybe they could let you bundle your officers together in groups and move them around like that to minimize tedium, without completely removing the strategic considerations by having every officer be omnipresent throughout all or china like in 7:E.
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Maleketh posted:Gonna miss Yueying having a weapon that isn't irredeemably bad. Pretty much, yeah. I don't understand why the keep taking her dagger axe away. Does she have some kind of historical affiliation with bows or something? Because they gave her a bow in DW6 too if I recall correctly.
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Jibo posted:Pretty much, yeah. I don't understand why the keep taking her dagger axe away. Does she have some kind of historical affiliation with bows or something? Because they gave her a bow in DW6 too if I recall correctly. Endorph fucked around with this message at 16:34 on Sep 18, 2014 |
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It's possible that they just wanted to give her a weapon with more moving parts - one that's more "high-tech" than the dagger-axe.
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Does the PS4 version have any features/content the PS3 doesn't? If not, I'll just get the PS3 version.
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PureRok posted:Does the PS4 version have any features/content the PS3 doesn't? If not, I'll just get the PS3 version. Of DW8? The ps4 version has the xl expansion included which is another 30$ separately. Orochi 3 and SW4 are identical AFAIK
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