|
Scrub Lover posted:New Silent Hills trailer: What exactly does Silent Hill look like these days?
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 17:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 10:01 |
|
|
Yardbomb posted:I'll continue to recommend HarshlyCritical to people that want good playthroughs of (Usually shorter) horror stuff. The guy himself admits that some of his much older stuff is of eh quality for a few reasons, but a lot of his videos are him just being super He plays during the day with the lights on. 
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 17:14
|
|
about terrible indie horror games and it's great seeing the polar opposite reactions of people like PDP or Markiplier for once.
|
Yardbomb posted:I'll continue to recommend HarshlyCritical to people that want good playthroughs of (Usually shorter) horror stuff. The guy himself admits that some of his much older stuff is of eh quality for a few reasons, but a lot of his videos are him just being super There isn't a horror game in existence that is scary if you tell yourself not to be scared. Horror games need the player to willingly immerse themselves. This simple concept continues to elude most people including you and this youtuber.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 17:20
|
|
|
Regarde Aduck posted:There isn't a horror game in existence that is scary if you tell yourself not to be scared. Horror games need the player to willingly immerse themselves. This simple concept continues to elude most people including you and this youtuber. Except HarshlyCritical only typically shits on small tryhard freeware games that aren't scary at all, but which contribute to click-baiting YouTube "personalities" and their masturbatory videos and annoying fanbases. Bad games need to get called out on being bad, and people should stop buying Early Access horror games that are bad just because PewDiePie and Markiplier played and shrieked at them. Scrub Lover posted:New Silent Hills trailer: This looks absolutely amazing, and there's nothing I don't like about what I'm seeing there. I kind of want a PS4 just to play that game, because I'm all but totally positive that it will never see a PC release.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 17:28
|
|
|
Regarde Aduck posted:There isn't a horror game in existence that is scary if you tell yourself not to be scared. Horror games need the player to willingly immerse themselves. This simple concept continues to elude most people including you and this youtuber. HarshlyCritical was pretty scared shitless playing Five Nights and PT. He does get into the games if they are actually good and not lovely indie tryhards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJDqNjJIPs Noirex fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Sep 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 17:41
|
|
|
Agnostalgia posted:What exactly does Silent Hill look like these days? Like a generic haunted house full of bugs and a big hand monster
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 17:42
|
|
|
Scrub Lover posted:Like a generic haunted house full of bugs and a big hand monster Silent Hill 4 was ten years ago. You are old. Your childhood is dead. Time to finish mourning it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 18:05
|
|
|
ManOfTheYear posted:Are there any good LPs of horror games? I love the sense of seeing somebody to explore the game and trying to figure out what's what, but most of them aren't any good. I've mostly watched TFS Krillin plays but the screaming gets on my ears and some Besdt Friends LPs, which are alright. There's a Current LP of Outlast by DumbRodent that I think is very good. He lets the atmosphere and the game speak for itself, and has a very soothing, calming voice that actually adds to the experience. And the aformentioned LP of FF2 by Egomaniac I found good as well.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 18:06
|
|
|
Oxxidation posted:Silent Hill 4 was ten years ago. You are old. Your childhood is dead. Time to finish mourning it. That's exactly why the SH name doesn't need to be slapped onto something just to get attention from "old" nerds like me, especially if its only connection IS the name. That being said: "This concept movie was created just for internal purposes (to convince KONAMI that Kojima can do horror, i guess) and was not meant to be shown." [source] Apparently the Haunted House video isn't Silent Hills, it's just Kojima flexing his horror muscle. scrub lover fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Sep 18, 2014 |
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 18:23
|
|
|
Regardless, the visuals, the technology and the atmosphere in that video are pretty amazing. It could be cool if we get at least that degree of style in the actual game.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 18:33
|
|
|
Scrub Lover posted:Like a generic haunted house full of bugs and a big hand monster I read that as "big band monster" and life was grander for a moment.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 19:15
|
|
t
|
Literally Kermit posted:I read that as "big band monster" and life was grander for a moment. 76 trombonemonsters in the big parade
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 20:24
|
|
|
Agnostalgia posted:What exactly does Silent Hill look like these days? A shambling corpse.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 22:38
|
|
|
A zombie nurse with huge tits.
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 22:39
|
|
|
Clever Spambot posted:A zombie nurse with huge tits. Eugh, if there's one thing I wish Silent Hill would get over it's the whole "Hypersexify horrid abominations because every protagonist is a brooding white dude with complicated sex feelings brought out by the town and" There's so, so much cool stuff that could be done with that premise and yet game after game it's Nurse Tits
|
|
#
?
Sep 18, 2014 22:47
|
|
|
It worked well in 2 and would have worked well in Homecoming if they made Alex gay, but yeah I agree its mostly lazy as poo poo callbacks to 2. Seriously though, Homecoming would have made a lot more sense if Alex was gay instead of being generically crazy. Accordion Man fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Sep 19, 2014 |
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 00:32
|
|
|
I hope that Kojima at least uses the living toys in the actual game, we don't really see enough possessed toys in games. In fact I can't really think of any in recent memory. One of the early Resident Evil 4 builds had possessed dolls, but that version was never actually finished and released.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 00:40
|
|
|
King Vidiot posted:I hope that Kojima at least uses the living toys in the actual game, we don't really see enough possessed toys in games. In fact I can't really think of any in recent memory. One of the early Resident Evil 4 builds had possessed dolls, but that version was never actually finished and released.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 00:51
|
|
|
Heather wasn't a dude, Silent Hill 1's and Silent Hill 4's nurses weren't sexualised. The only game that really applies to is 2. The rest of the games don't count because they were made by unimaginitive retards. I'd say the huge, singular problem with the post-4 Silent Hill games is the idea that Silent Hill is about a town teaching a troubled protagonist with a secret a lesson with some dumb 'twist' . That was one game out of 4, every single 'proper' silent hill since has used the exact same concept (Origins, Homecoming, Downpour, Shattered Memories) it's time they gave it a rest.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 00:53
|
|
|
I really like to imagine some Konami higher-up rolling their eyes as Kojima strolls in to tell them he wants to make something besides MGS--a Silent Hill game, no less--only to see that proof of concept video and completely lose their poo poo.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 01:06
|
|
|
Accordion Man posted:It worked well in 2 and would have worked well in Homecoming if they made Alex gay, but yeah I agree its mostly lazy as poo poo callbacks to 2. i remember there was an oddly enduring fan theory that stated that Alex was transgender because. It kept cropping up in the weirdest places. Apparently it either came out of, or gained popularity on TVTropes, so that may go some way to explaining it.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 02:07
|
|
|
Scrub Lover posted:That's exactly why the SH name doesn't need to be slapped onto something just to get attention from "old" nerds like me, especially if its only connection IS the name. Well, it starts with "P.T. Concept Video" in text. Seems to make sense to me that this in turn led to the P.T. demo.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 02:42
|
|
|
King Vidiot posted:I hope that Kojima at least uses the living toys in the actual game, we don't really see enough possessed toys in games. In fact I can't really think of any in recent memory. One of the early Resident Evil 4 builds had possessed dolls, but that version was never actually finished and released. They had the hanging dolls in SH Origins but that game was poo poo 
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:16
|
|
|
If there was one good thing about Origins, it's that the Butcher was really frigging creepy. Well, the buildup to the Butcher was really creepy. Then you had a boss fight and that was lame.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:22
|
|
|
Scrub Lover posted:New Silent Hills trailer: I can see they're returning to their silent hill 4 roots with the canned screams
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:22
|
|
|
DeathChicken posted:If there was one good thing about Origins, it's that the Butcher was really frigging creepy. Well, the buildup to the Butcher was really creepy. Then you had a boss fight and that was lame. I found it impossible to be creeped out while laughing at the lazy devs who just changed the shape of Pyramid Head's face and called it a new character.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:33
|
|
|
Origins is a decent game, the soundtrack and some of the areas were nice. I've said it before but what really made it worse was forcing it to be a prequel and its clusterfuck of a development.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:45
|
|
|
This may be a myth but i heard they were basically handed the prerendered cutscenes by konami and were told to make a game around that, which would mean that the not pyramid head wasn't really the devs fault. Overall origins was not bad, i enjoyed it alot more than homecoming.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:47
|
|
|
Yeah, I'd say Homecoming is the only Silent Hill game that really is legit bad, I still enjoyed my time with it though.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:49
|
|
|
0rigins had its moments, sure. The theatre had an interesting gimmick. The row of peepholes in the motel was disturbing, although 4 had already tried the peephole thing.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:51
|
|
|
Accordion Man posted:Yeah, I'd say Homecoming is the only Silent Hill game that really is legit bad, I still enjoyed my time with it though.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:56
|
|
|
Poulpe posted:Eugh, if there's one thing I wish Silent Hill would get over it's the whole "Hypersexify horrid abominations because every protagonist is a brooding white dude with complicated sex feelings brought out by the town and" I dunno, it was pretty rad in Catherine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hw-GzeIgOA&t=260s
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 06:59
|
|
|
lol ''it doesn't look like a Silent Hill game.'' Yeah, because after #2 they all sucked rear end. God forbid it becomes good again.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 10:07
|
|
|
SH3's my favourite of the series, and I know several people who cite The Room as the one they like best. In other news, opinions aren't absolutes 
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 10:15
|
|
|
I like Silent Hill 4 just fine, if only because I find it atmospheric enough to look past some really lousy gameplay decisions. As opposed to Downpour, which was the only Silent Hill I didn't feel like finishing since the monsters just pissed me off.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 12:15
|
|
|
Clever Spambot posted:This may be a myth but i heard they were basically handed the prerendered cutscenes by konami and were told to make a game around that, which would mean that the not pyramid head wasn't really the devs fault. Not exactly. What actually happened was it was originally being developed by Climax LA as a dark comedy game inspired by Scrubs. Konami realised it was being made by a bunch of incompetent idiots and dumped it on Climax UK to try and make something out of it. It was such a mess they told Konami that they'd pretty much have to change the entire thing and Konami told them they could, but they're not getting any extra time or budget to do so. The story, monster and level designs were redone in a week.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 12:29
|
|
|
"Quick, give every creature a QTE attack!" Although I maintain that I liked what they did with the Butcher.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 12:37
|
|
|
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 12:55
|
|
|
I give Origins a fair amount of slack considering the system it was created for and the other limitations it suffered from. Overall still found it pretty uninspired but at least it didn't completely piss me off like Shattered Memories (or the mere idea of Book of Memories) and it didn't reek of desperately trying to emulate the earlier games like homecoming did (here's the cult! and sexy nurses! and pyramid head!). It was basically exactly what you expect it to be: a portable prequel that didn't really try to do much differently or "rock the boat" and as a result was fairly dull and forgettable but at least it was relatively inoffensive. The soundtrack was great though.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 13:09
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 8, 2024 10:01 |
|
|
Kaboom Dragoon posted:SH3's my favourite of the series, and I know several people who cite The Room as the one they like best. While I certainly don't think The Room was the best Silent Hill, I did really like some ideas it had. It was why the P.T. looked really interesting to me; this idea of a place of safety being slowly corrupted by some outside force. (The references to Hell not withstanding... that's an idea which I think should be retired from the series because it restricts things too much in the realm of personal punisment. Real horror should be ineffable; you lend a thing meaning, you lend it rhyme and reason, which takes some of the horror away. There was no reason Harry, Heather, or Henry got ingulfed in some strange, scary world; it just happened due to random chance, and that's what's scary. The only SH that did "personal hell" right was SH2, because they weren't so drat in-your-face about it.) And speaking of that, "in your face" is what I think about that concept trailer. No slow burn to the scares, no gradually creeping out a person whith shifts to atmosphere, architecture or the environment, just BAM, maggots from the walls and a big hand reaching for you. It resembles more a funhouse than Silent Hill. However, P.T. does give me hope.
|
|
#
?
Sep 19, 2014 14:18
|
|