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So motherfucking sold on a 970 for my 1200p needs
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Sep 19, 2014 04:19
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I don't even play games and you guys make me want to get one through your enthusiasm alone.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:20
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I'm pretty excited to ditch my 560 Ti for a 970. I thought there was no way it was going to launch at a MSRP of $329.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:24
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Winks posted:I'm pretty excited to ditch my 560 Ti for a 970. I thought there was no way it was going to launch at a MSRP of $329. Now how do I get one?
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Sep 19, 2014 04:27
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So the GTX 970 can overclock quite a good bit then? That might be the new performance-to-cost leader on the Nvidia side.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:27
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A reference 970 is generally sitting in between a 780 and 780 Ti, or close to the original Titan. A reference 980 is generally about 10% above a Titan Black. The overclocks are ridiculous for these cards, with reviewers getting 200-250mhz or higher clock rates, and the cards scale very well overclocked. Overclocked, 970s are hitting reference 980 performance. Overclocked, 980s aren't too far off from Titan Z performance. I am shocked at the price still since I haven't really considered nVidia price/performance competitive in about 5 years.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:32
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Zero VGS posted:So the GTX 970 can overclock quite a good bit then? That might be the new performance-to-cost leader on the Nvidia side. Totally speculating with no basis whatsoever, but they might be great overclockers once people start reverse engineering the bios and unlocking higher power targets for higher sustained boost clocks. My 680 went from maxing out below 1200Mhz to hitting 1300Mhz just by editing power limits in the bios. This new generation seems to be even more interested in TDP (Which is a good thing for 99% of buyers) so there might be a lot to unlock there.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:35
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Guru3d hit 1547 boost clock on their gigabyte card. Madness
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Sep 19, 2014 04:36
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I'm really considering parting with my 290 and going with a 980. 
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Sep 19, 2014 04:39
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Apologies since I don't have time to look at many of the reviews tonight, but are we seeing many custom designs at launch or mostly reference coolers?
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Sep 19, 2014 04:42
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Uh. This is all so tempting to jump up to from a 7870, but I just spent money on a 1TB SSD. The Witcher 3 will no doubt force me to upgrade.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:42
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Heavily overclocked 780Ti looks like it'll hold me until GM210, should such a beautiful monstrosity make its way down the food chain. This is an amazing architecture - a nearly 50% performance improvement on the same process? How much perf has just been left on the table due to the strict adherence to a specific manufacturing cadence in the past...?
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Sep 19, 2014 04:44
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yeah I'm buying at least a 970 the instant they're in stock anywhere. if the spirit moves me, then I'll just buy a 980 
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Sep 19, 2014 04:46
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Apologies since I don't have time to look at many of the reviews tonight, but are we seeing many custom designs at launch or mostly reference coolers? 980 is a reference launch. Custom cards will come in as they come. 970 is a "virtual launch" with no reference design, so only customized cards. Some custom cards are available immediately.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:46
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Factory Factory posted:980 is a reference launch. 
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Sep 19, 2014 04:48
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Along with the 970/980 NDAs lifting, the new R343 branch GeForce driver (344.11) is up and ready for download, for those of you interested (Windows 8.1 download link). Here's the Guru3D link for all versions: http://www.guru3d.com/files-details/geforce-344-11-whql-driver-download.html some dillweed fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 04:50
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Any idea if NV plans to release MFAA and downsampling on older cards? Those two things are awesome but I really don't want to ditch the insanely good GTX780 sample I have right now.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:54
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So can someone explain the shift in tone? When the pics leaked of the new 900 cards earlier it seemed like most people weren't too excited for the 900 then the whole tone shifted, what caused that?
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Sep 19, 2014 05:03
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Knifegrab posted:So can someone explain the shift in tone? When the pics leaked of the new 900 cards earlier it seemed like most people weren't too excited for the 900 then the whole tone shifted, what caused that? 290 costs more than a 970
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Sep 19, 2014 05:05
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Very good price for the GTX970, insanely low power draw (like a lot better), overclocks like a beast, very good stock performance, good amount of RAM, lots of beneficial software features like MFAA, downsampling, and VR support. These things together make AMD's lineup basically obsolete. Native downsampling support and lower cost anti-aliasing methods means enough to me that I'm contemplating ditching the GTX780 while Australian prices are still insane. Chafe fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 05:07
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I'm thinking of upgrading my 7950 boost to 980, will I have to upgrade my 550 watts power supply to do that?
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The thread title remains hilariously and somewhat unfortunately relevant for yet another product cycle, though if AMD can follow up on GCN 1.2 with cards that can approach the performance of the 970 and force a belt-tightening (again) for their lineup below parity, they could still do fine this generation. Let's not forget that even still most desktop consumers are gonna be absolutely fine on 7850-level hardware or a now-very-cheap 760 or whatever; the big improvements here are efficiency, which is just shockingly good, and that smooth fuckin' performance bump at a much more sensible price. For everyone. nVidia is still gonna make bank on these things, TSMC's 28nm is about as solved a problem as it gets and SMMs look like they're going to be even easier to glue together as desired than SMXes were, so I'd imagine there will be a robust product stack descending from these once Kepler inventory starts to dry up. Shrinkage posted:I'm thinking of upgrading my 7950 boost to 980, will I have to upgrade my 550 watts power supply to do that? Nope, this draws about as much power as a low-to-medium range card from the previous generation. It's nearly a 100W savings over a 780/Titan/780Ti for similar performance for whatever you'll be doing.
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Knifegrab posted:So can someone explain the shift in tone? When the pics leaked of the new 900 cards earlier it seemed like most people weren't too excited for the 900 then the whole tone shifted, what caused that? The price actually being $329 for the 970. This forces AMD to push all their prices down lower, since they have a ridiculous amount of SKUs. It is basically a return of reasonably-priced cards. Also I think a lot of people have been pissed at how expensive nVidia had been in the 700 series, considering most of those cards are rebadges of the 600 series, and if they weren't a rebadge then they were obscenely expensive (exclusing the 750/750Ti but those are lower-end cards). Last week, $400 with nvidia would only get you a card that originally came out 2.5 years ago. Now $329 gets you a card that beats AMD's top-end single-card, uses much less power, runs cooler and overclocks like crazy.
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Agreed posted:Nope, this draws about as much power as a low-to-medium range card from the previous generation. It's nearly a 100W savings over a 780/Titan/780Ti for similar performance for whatever you'll be doing. Thanks. I'm googling around and it looks like this thing actually uses less power than the 7950b for twice the performance. That's pretty amazing.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:24
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Meta Ridley posted:The price actually being $329 for the 970. This forces AMD to push all their prices down lower, since they have a ridiculous amount of SKUs. It is basically a return of reasonably-priced cards. So loving glad I didnt cave in to get 770 upgrade for my 670. Incidentally, I know someone who just put down for a 780 about two weeks ago, he is gonna be pissed.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:27
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I am so tempted by the 970, but I can't afford a fun purchase like that right now. Compared to my 680, it'd be a (uselessly) great performance boost, and the low TDP would make things so easy in a silence-performance ITX build like I run.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:41
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It will be nice to wave goodbye to this HD6950 and step into something a bit more modern.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:53
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do we know when these are going on sale? haven't seen any at the usual haunts and didn't see any mention in reviews.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:54
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Professor Science posted:do we know when these are going on sale? haven't seen any at the usual haunts and didn't see any mention in reviews. It's supposed to be an Actual Factual Launch. Maybe try again in the morning?
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I'm guessing the borderlands presequel bundle will only apply to the 700 series but I'll piss my pants if the 970 is included.
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Meta Ridley posted:The price actually being $329 for the 970. This forces AMD to push all their prices down lower, since they have a ridiculous amount of SKUs. It is basically a return of reasonably-priced cards. That's really awesome. It seems like people are gravitating towards the 970 because of its price point but is the 980 a "bad investment"? I am planning on an serious upgrade when the maxwell arch comes out and I would be looking at the 980 once non-reference cards come out. Would that be incredibly foolish?
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Sep 19, 2014 06:13
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So looking ahead a bit, what are the next steps for Nvidia? I know they were having trouble with 22nm, is that still the case? Are they even bothering with 22nm or are they skipping straight to 16nm FinFET next year?
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Sep 19, 2014 06:13
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No poo poo, if Borderlands the Pre Sequel is included in the 900-series bundle I'm getting a 980. A 970 is clearly a smarter buy, but I guess there is a tradition to keep here... And then I'll have a golden-chip 780Ti to sell, oh god it's happening again
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Sep 19, 2014 06:14
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welp, went to local retailer, ordered a EVGA 970. Goodbye money. Card arrives next week.
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Knifegrab posted:That's really awesome. It seems like people are gravitating towards the 970 because of its price point but is the 980 a "bad investment"? I am planning on an serious upgrade when the maxwell arch comes out and I would be looking at the 980 once non-reference cards come out. Would that be incredibly foolish? I don't think it's unreasonable to get a 980 if you're gaming at 1440p or above - my 780ti averages about 35fps on crysis 3 with everything at max and some fancy AA. A 970 would suit 98% of people perfectly for 1440p though, and I'm not quite sure if a single 980 is good enough for 4k; but it comes pretty drat close. Agreed posted:No poo poo, if Borderlands the Pre Sequel is included in the 900-series bundle I'm getting a 980. A 970 is clearly a smarter buy, but I guess there is a tradition to keep here... And then I'll have a golden-chip 780Ti to sell, oh god it's happening again List of people who are surprised at this:
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I am looking forward to dumping my bargain bin, thrift store bought 9800 GT in favor of dropping off a 0 to gain an X. Edit: My setup is the most lopsided thing. i5-4670k, 16 whole gigabytes of memory, and a 1 gb 9800 GT from a thrift store. Smegma Princess X fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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I actually got out of bed to run the first synthetic I saw, which was 3D mark firestrike to compare the graphics figures for the 980 and my 780ti purely for my own e peen comparison. I was pleased to see I scored higher in this case (OC'd 780ti) Graphics Score 13230 vs 12704 (980, didnt specify which one for this). So I was like, well good at least it's still barely on top which was the original expectation from the first leaks. Then I clicked on the overclocking section in the same review and *poof* , +200 mhz on top of that reference clock? :o, without reading more I think I can say the 980 will completely surpasses the 780ti no if's or but's at that point. And of course OC'd it would just cream the reference 780ti in the charts, stomps it. Shame it's not $500, but I can't say that's bad for $550. Then take a look at the 970 OC and wow again.  There's some true value there evidently. Funny the initially-mediocre leaks were pretty much on point for the most part and we got just perhaps a tiny bit more than we expected (the OC is a nice surprise), but what it all will come down to is the price point to fuel the fire. Maybe with the low power requirements people will finally swing for 970 SLI more often so I can see some god drat solid data about it that this generation :P
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Guru3D's overclocking results don't seem to be consistent with other sites, but their test bench is kinda lovely too. Sandy Bridge E was cool for confusing purposes when it came out but my system is clocked just like theirs, 2600K from before 2700Ks were a thing (remember those?) at 4.5GHz now, and I turn in higher scores with my 780Ti than their standard 980 overclocked pretty much across the board. Feel kinda weird saying a SB-E system must be bound somewhere else but I don't know what else to think - as mentioned, elsewhere similarly overclocked cards turn in scores that offer a solid 20% or so improvement, on average, on what I get out of a very good 780Ti. I still think we should wait for some more samples to see what the deal is with overclocking these, but experience with the 750Ti is preliminarily encouraging. Man, they rocked this launch.
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970s and 980s are showing up on Amazon--just ordered a 970. 2-5 week shipping or out of stock on all, though.
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