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Loving Africa Chaps
Dec 3, 2007


We had not left it yet, but when I would wake in the night, I would lie, listening, homesick for it already.

3 hour record bikes posted and none of them are Graeme obrees? Smh

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goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Still don't understand how a human being can stay in praying mantis posture for an hour. It obviously works, but it must hurt like hell.

goatface fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Sep 18, 2014

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

Paddyb posted:

^^ do you have his phone number? it's for a friend.

There was someone a few years ago that blogged about trying a dope program just to see, google it so you don't have to waste your time.

For DIY doping you can do a lot worse than getting a script for Ritalin or Adderall. Though seriously do not exercise on amphetamines.

If you have a big budget you really want to find a dishonest dr to score some HGH and EPO. Once you get on the HGH which is really next level poo poo, the gains last well beyond the program if you continue your training, EPO on the other hand requires continuous dosing to maintain the benefits. Enjoy the associated health risks, including increased cancer risk, financial cost and beating your friends on the road to the cafe stop.

FYI your experienced riding buddies will know what's going on and talk poo poo behind your back and not ride with you.

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me

Pocket posted:

There was someone a few years ago that blogged about trying a dope program just to see, google it so you don't have to waste your time.

For DIY doping you can do a lot worse than getting a script for Ritalin or Adderall. Though seriously do not exercise on amphetamines.

If you have a big budget you really want to find a dishonest dr to score some HGH and EPO. Once you get on the HGH which is really next level poo poo, the gains last well beyond the program if you continue your training, EPO on the other hand requires continuous dosing to maintain the benefits. Enjoy the associated health risks, including increased cancer risk, financial cost and beating your friends on the road to the cafe stop.

FYI your experienced riding buddies will know what's going on and talk poo poo behind your back and not ride with you.

I'm a lovely cat 3/4 and am way too cheap to spend money on that poo poo. I sort of remember the same article. Masters doping is a running joke among my friends and i love the idea doping yourself silly and sandbagging it in a cat 3 cyclocross race.

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

There is certainly a strong emotion associated with being at a new performance level for anyone that does sports. Charging up to be the best one can be, impossibly lean, strong, to feel no fatigue crushing >7W/KG on successive climbs. It must be addictive and dangerous once that box has been opened, Ricardo Ricco is testament to that.

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
I've learned a valuable lesson today

accipter
Sep 12, 2003

Source

Chenghiz
Feb 14, 2007

WHITE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL

evil_bunnY posted:

Sosenka was a horrible doper.

So was merckx, he was just too popular to get caught

evil_bunnY
Apr 2, 2003

Chenghiz posted:

So was merckx, he was just too popular to get caught
Point taken

Doc Holliday
Dec 24, 2002

Pocket posted:

There was someone a few years ago that blogged about trying a dope program just to see, google it so you don't have to waste your time.

For DIY doping you can do a lot worse than getting a script for Ritalin or Adderall. Though seriously do not exercise on amphetamines.


http://www.outsideonline.com/fitness/Drug-Test.html

I think this is the one you're referring to. At any rate it is a fascinating read.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Chenghiz posted:

So was merckx, he was just too popular to get caught

1969 Giro, busted and told to go home.

VacaGrande
Dec 24, 2003
God! A red nugget! A fat egg under a dog!

Chenghiz posted:

So was merckx, he was just too popular to get caught

Beaten, but I thought he got caught at least 3 times.

lokicubed
May 14, 2009
Merckx was pre EPO/blood bags right? Mostly stimulants and stuff. While still a boost, the improvement over natural baseline must have been more limited than blood doping for instance.

Even though doping is doping and such I feel somehow this is/was a different kind of doping than say Lance.

accipter
Sep 12, 2003

lokicubed posted:

Merckx was pre EPO/blood bags right? Mostly stimulants and stuff. While still a boost, the improvement over natural baseline must have been more limited than blood doping for instance.

Even though doping is doping and such I feel somehow this is/was a different kind of doping than say Lance.

It was still the best technology for cheating at the time.

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

Wasn't he on a well funded teams against a bunch of lads that had jobs on the side of their cycling racing?

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
Too popular to get busted? A lot of people didn't like him because he was just too good.

Drug or no drugs, he was just better than the rest (who would have been on the same stuff anyway).

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

If they could afford it.

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
Mercx used transfusions

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
France has a strong Worlds squad, y'all.

Chenghiz
Feb 14, 2007

WHITE WHALE
HOLY GRAIL

Xabi posted:

Drug or no drugs, he was just better than the rest (who would have been on the same stuff anyway).

Definitely wouldn't disagree here.

I think it would be neat if they had a Merckx style hour record with a very standardized bike, and then a more 'bike+rider' record in line with what Voight did where you can have a TT-style frame and aero bars and sponsors can talk up their bike design cred.

dema
Aug 13, 2006

No one participated in the Merckx style record.

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
Too bad Thor won't try for the Worlds again. I was always a big fan and my road bike is basically Thor 2009 Cervelo.

Worlds contenders to me are:

France
Belgium
Australia
Italy
Spain (barely)

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Paddyb posted:

Too bad Thor won't try for the Worlds again. I was always a big fan and my road bike is basically Thor 2009 Cervelo.

Worlds contenders to me are:

France
Belgium
Australia
Italy
Spain (barely)

Its going to be Cancellara or Gerrans I feel. Although Bouhanni could surprise people if he can stick with them until the end.

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

Bouhanni should be too young to take Worlds distance and 4200m climb at race pace and still be fresh enough to beat the usual contenders. I really can't see a Frenchman winning against the current field.

These are usually races of attrition, the sprint teams can try controlling but eventually there will be a selection forced by the classics/one day specialists.

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Pocket posted:

Bouhanni should be too young to take Worlds distance and 4200m climb at race pace and still be fresh enough to beat the usual contenders. I really can't see a Frenchman winning against the current field.

These are usually races of attrition, the sprint teams can try controlling but eventually there will be a selection forced by the classics/one day specialists.

This is very true, hence why I said 'if he can stick with them'. Most people are saying Sagan will win this one but I just cant see it myself.

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
Gerrans looks really good now and has a great team. They destroyed the GP de Montreal. I agree about Bouhanni, but the strength of their team this year was alarming.

I can't wait.

Pocket
Aug 27, 2006

A strong team can give nothing, BMC proved this repeatedly.

Tinkov is on the youtube stream chat trolling.

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
I guess that means Cancellara will win. Cool

African AIDS cum
Feb 29, 2012


Welcome back, welcome back, welcome baaaack
When is the worlds RR?

Rojkir
Jun 26, 2007

WARNING:I AM A FASCIST PIECE OF SHIT.
Police beatings get me hard
Coming sunday

glyph
Apr 6, 2006



Chenghiz posted:

Definitely wouldn't disagree here.

I think it would be neat if they had a Merckx style hour record with a very standardized bike, and then a more 'bike+rider' record in line with what Voight did where you can have a TT-style frame and aero bars and sponsors can talk up their bike design cred.

They tried that. Called it the "athletes hour" or some such. Pretty much Boardman and that gangly eastern block dude were the only ones to do anything memorable. Boardman beat Merckx by something like 10 meters and the Slovakian gangle was doped to the gills. Everyone else stayed away.

Even so, I'm pretty sure Boardman used clipless pedals with shoe covers, an aero cover on his helmet and bladed spokes. The technology creep is inevitable, and other than locking a bike (or a size run of bikes) up like the top gear liana, you're kind of S.O.L. if you're looking for a fair fight.

glyph fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Sep 22, 2014

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
Kreuziger has been cleared by his Olympic authority.

Russian Bear
Dec 26, 2007


So how many teams will Tony Martin beat with his time tomorrow?

paddyboat
Feb 20, 2013

Maxi, Maxi Rodriguez
Run down the wing for me
All of the teams. 110 percent of the teams, even.

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Jun 13, 2002
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Fiskenbob
Mar 28, 2007

When we have more time, I'll acquaint you with the various processes of sculptoring. It's a fascinating art to which I devoted many hours of study.
You'll also find a handful of very well visited bike threads in YLLS.

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer
Wiggles did a thing.

Xir
Jul 31, 2007

I smell fan fiction...
Wow, did I just see Bradley Wiggins beat Tony Martin in the ITT?

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe

Xir posted:

Wow, did I just see Bradley Wiggins beat Tony Martin in the ITT?

Well it's not like he's never done it before. Very surprising though.

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serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
If there was going to be a course that Martin might get beaten on it was this one tbf.

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