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iForge posted:You have been asking this same question since July and the answer is still the same. Use an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to cut most of the way through the bracket and then bend it out of the way. Have someone hold the mirror while you do this. Take your time. I thought it was agreed in early-aug that the easiest option would be to put on a pair of eye protection and hit the bastard with a wrecking bar. You've spent longer planning this job than they took to plan the Normandy Landings.
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spog posted:I thought it was agreed in early-aug that the easiest option would be to put on a pair of eye protection and hit the bastard with a wrecking bar. Don't procrastination-shame.
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melon cat posted:I'm cutting this metal bracket that's on my bathroom mirror: Go get one of these... make a big X on the mirror and take it out in 4 pieces. This is a 5 minute job. http://www.homedepot.com/p/General-Tools-5-in-Glass-Cutter-in-Red-8501/100169741 
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Took the motor control box apart but could not find anything out of the ordinary. Figured maybe someone would find it interesting to see an old european motor and how it's hooked up.    The three phases are connected from what I've looked up to be the correct way for 380/400V operation. Earth is connected to the engine casing it seems like. Neutral is not used. The plug:  The symbols on the plug are L1, L2, L3, N och PE. N is disabled (there's no place to connect it on the motor, I asked and this seems normal). Still runs for about 10 seconds when cold, then trips the fuse. Weird...
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melon cat posted:Yeah... I might've forgotten which DIY forums I did (and didn't) already post this question in. At the very least you should wear safety glasses when doing this. I recommend picking up a full face shield and wearing it whenever you use the grinder. Metal in your eyes is NOT fun, and I know this from personal experience. They numb your eye with drops then dig it out with a needle, and sometimes have to cut into the surface of your eye to get to it. The person holding the mirror while you cut should be wearing safety glasses, gloves, and long sleeves in case the mirror breaks, blood is harder to clean up than broken glass. This woman is delighted to be protecting her eyes, you will be too. 
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dremel now makes metal cutoff wheels that don't shatter if you look at them crossed and actually do a decent job. They're basically just the same cutoff disks you'd use in an angle grinder but at quarter-scale. I used one to cut up an old table saw blade and it didn't even shatter once, although it was basically used up by the time I was done.
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Sep 17, 2014 06:20
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melon cat posted:I'm cutting this metal bracket that's on my bathroom mirror: I'd be damned near surprised if the upper mount wasn't spring loaded. Had that exact same bracket in my old house... lift the mirror up and lift it out of the lower bracket. If the top one is rusted just as bad, probably some added friction up there making it seem like a solid mount.
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Sep 17, 2014 14:55
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rotor posted:dremel now makes metal cutoff wheels that don't shatter if you look at them crossed and actually do a decent job. They're basically just the same cutoff disks you'd use in an angle grinder but at quarter-scale. I used one to cut up an old table saw blade and it didn't even shatter once, although it was basically used up by the time I was done. Yea but then he's going to miss out on the experience of not wearing glasses, having a shard of metal fly out and blast him in the cheek, and then running and getting a pair of glasses.
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Sylink posted:Im in the market for a 6" jointer, planer (not a huge one) and a miter saw. Jointer: Older Delta, Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic. Planer: Dewalt DW735, Older Delta, Jet, Grizzly, Older Makita, Powermatic Miter saw: Makita or Dewalt. There are cheaper versions of all of these, but it's not worth wasting your time on. Buying used will save you quite a bit and usually they just need a new set of knives or a blade.
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the spyder posted:Jointer: Older Delta, Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic. This may be a dumb suggestion but I'm a huge fan of the 140$ (on sale) miter saw @ Harbor Freight. 12" double bevel sliding. It's cheap in all the right places it seems and I've had a lot of good luck with it. The one flaw folks gripe about is that the laser is only powered when the blade is on, but theres's a mod you can do to fix that. I'm a newbie woodworker but this came square out of the box and for 140$ with the features present on very expensive miter saws, I'm pleased. Came with extra motor bushings too (like I'll need those!)
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the spyder posted:Jointer: Older Delta, Jet, Grizzly, Powermatic. Thanks for the replies on this guys, these are the brands I was checking out anyway so thats great to know.
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dhrusis posted:This may be a dumb suggestion but I'm a huge fan of the 140$ (on sale) miter saw @ Harbor Freight. 12" double bevel sliding. It's cheap in all the right places it seems and I've had a lot of good luck with it. The one flaw folks gripe about is that the laser is only powered when the blade is on, but theres's a mod you can do to fix that. Huh. I just saw that in an ad and was wondering about it. Cool. Thanks. Any excuse to go to HF is a good one.
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dhrusis posted:This may be a dumb suggestion but I'm a huge fan of the 140$ (on sale) miter saw @ Harbor Freight. 12" double bevel sliding. It's cheap in all the right places it seems and I've had a lot of good luck with it. The one flaw folks gripe about is that the laser is only powered when the blade is on, but theres's a mod you can do to fix that. Would be good to start a list of HF stuff that's actually worth getting. I bet it would be a pretty decent size list.
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Sep 18, 2014 15:23
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It's going to cause a dozen pages of argument.
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iForge posted:You have been asking this same question since July and the answer is still the same. Use an angle grinder with a cutoff wheel to cut most of the way through the bracket and then bend it out of the way. Have someone hold the mirror while you do this. Take your time. From that picture, an angle grinder seems like massive overkill? Like it would be incredibly easy to make things far worse, especially if the OP hasn't quite developed a deft touch. I see no problem with a Dremel or even a hacksaw blade to score the metal until it can be bent or broken. That said, if I was to use a grinder, I would use a standard grinding wheel and take material off of the outside of the corner of the bracket until it could be bent out of the way, rather than trying to slot it. Or just slide a pry bar behind the bracket and yank it out of the wall.
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Splizwarf posted:It's going to cause a dozen pages of argument. Exactly
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use a demo bar and go in from the room behind it
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dietcokefiend posted:I'd be damned near surprised if the upper mount wasn't spring loaded. Had that exact same bracket in my old house... lift the mirror up and lift it out of the lower bracket. If the top one is rusted just as bad, probably some added friction up there making it seem like a solid mount. Yep. Splizwarf posted:use a demo bar and go in from the room behind it 
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Sointenly posted:Would be good to start a list of HF stuff that's actually worth getting. I bet it would be a pretty decent size list. Here's my approved list, based on personal use: Impact sockets and extensions Swivel impact sockets Composite Ratchets Sand blasting cabinet (large) Nitrile gloves Earthquake 1/2" Impact gun 60 Gal compressor 1/4" air die grinder 3" cutoff tool Metal punch set 1/2"-1" Drill bit set Aluminum floor jack Red and Black tool carts 44", 56", and 72" Tool boxes Prybars Plastic deadblow hammers Long handle needle nose pliers 3 and 5 pound hammer Moving dollies Moving blankets Step drill bit set 20 Ton press Porta-Power kit Jack Stands Plastic scrapers Door trim and panel tool kit Wheel lug socket set 6.5HP Gas engine Ultrasonic cleaner 45w Solar Panel kit Aluminum loading ramp HVLP Spray gun (Primer) Digital Calipers Evaporust Hydraulic lift table Chip Brushes Things I avoid: Anything with an electric motor- grinders, drills, sanders, ect 6x48 belt sander, a complete POS Pliers, screw drivers, standard sockets Sand paper, abrasives (cut off/grinder wheels) Nails, screws, hoseclamps, cotter pins, ect Anything electrical (plugs, terminals, wire) Tape, adhesives, ect. I'm sure there's more, but I'm impressed most this stuff has outlasted my expectations.
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iForge posted:At the very least you should wear safety glasses when doing this. I recommend picking up a full face shield and wearing it whenever you use the grinder. Metal in your eyes is NOT fun, and I know this from personal experience. They numb your eye with drops then dig it out with a needle, and sometimes have to cut into the surface of your eye to get to it. The person holding the mirror while you cut should be wearing safety glasses, gloves, and long sleeves in case the mirror breaks, blood is harder to clean up than broken glass. As a generally safe dude, I just want to emphasize that this woman is delighted to be protecting her eyes from saliva as a dental hygienist. Always wear safety glasses under a face shield, and make sure that any face shield/head gear that mounts directly to your head has a crown to protect you from sparks and debris from above. Also, make sure the face shield is stamped with "Z87.1" (sometimes with a +) so that you are sure that it has passed ANSI impact testing (before you go buying flea market face shields).
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Holy poo poo, there's a 72"?  Hey, goon who was going to explain why he was unhappy with his buddy's new 44" HF toolchest, did you die or what? I put off buying one and then you never posted any reasons (I think).
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melon cat posted:I've triple-checked, and I know exactly what you're talking about. But it isn't spring-loaded. This townhouse was built in a very cheap, mass-produced fashion and I wouldn't mind smacking the builder for their design decisions. For example, in order to get behind the washer dryer you need to remove the water heater. Well just go to town on it with duct tape or something and then crack it apart.
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Splizwarf posted:Holy poo poo, there's a 72"? I have one at work and there is no reason you should not buy one right now. You could wait until the October 12th parking lot sale and pick one up for $359. Unless you have $1500 to spend on a SnapOn/MAC for some reason.
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You know what the easiest way to removing that mirror probably is slip a putty knife between the mirror and that bracket, and then bend the bracket down. Takes less than 3 months to do it, too
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the spyder posted:I have one at work and there is no reason you should not buy one right now. You could wait until the October 12th parking lot sale and pick one up for $359. Unless you have $1500 to spend on a SnapOn/MAC for some reason. Ha, I bet $1500 wouldn't even get me a 2-drawer 26" midbox from SnapOn. 
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Splizwarf posted:Holy poo poo, there's a 72"? I also have the 44" tool chest and am completely happy with it.
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King of Gulps posted:From that picture, an angle grinder seems like massive overkill? Like it would be incredibly easy to make things far worse, especially if the OP hasn't quite developed a deft touch. I see no problem with a Dremel or even a hacksaw blade to score the metal until it can be bent or broken. That said, if I was to use a grinder, I would use a standard grinding wheel and take material off of the outside of the corner of the bracket until it could be bent out of the way, rather than trying to slot it. Or just slide a pry bar behind the bracket and yank it out of the wall. He mentioned before that he wants an angle grinder anyway, and I am trying to save him from buying a dremel for one job and then buying a grinder anyway.
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I have the 44" HF tool chest and it's great. Some dude did a lot of research and found out they use pretty OK construction techniques and features for that price.melon cat posted:I've triple-checked, and I know exactly what you're talking about. But it isn't spring-loaded. This townhouse was built in a very cheap, mass-produced fashion and I wouldn't mind smacking the builder for their design decisions. For example, in order to get behind the washer dryer you need to remove the water heater. Just lose some weight and stop dressing like a clown so you don't have to take the mirror off at all.
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I painted my house last weekend and behind the mirror there was a father's day card and the front panel of a bar breathalyser machine.
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I don't think we've covered this mirror crisis enough, surely there must be yet another way to remove it from the wall.  Especially when I have my own mirror crisis brewing --- in my case though I'm pretty sure the idiots glued it to the wall. Which might be okay if they had placed it higher so that I can see my head. And I'm only 5'-10"!
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wormil posted:I don't think we've covered this mirror crisis enough, surely there must be yet another way to remove it from the wall. Just add another above it. 
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Splizwarf posted:Just add another above it. Dig a hole in the floor
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melon cat posted:I've triple-checked, and I know exactly what you're talking about. But it isn't spring-loaded. This townhouse was built in a very cheap, mass-produced fashion and I wouldn't mind smacking the builder for their design decisions. For example, in order to get behind the washer dryer you need to remove the water heater.
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Mirror chat is great and all, but... re: Harbor Freight, I've found that the reviews on the site are fairly accurate if you read them close enough. The tools are decent for what you pay. Don't expect to be blown out of the water consistently. The list below is pretty drat big, though!the spyder posted:Here's my approved list, based on personal use:
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Vindolanda posted:
Using a large, heavy duty winch system attached to the roof of the house at the end behind the mirror, pull on the house until it racks slightly in that direction, thus causing all the walls parallel to the mirror wall to angle slightly, tipping the mirror in question upward and revealing the viewer's hideous mug. e: you could also push from the other end of the house instead if that works better, let's not be closed-minded here
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2nd a lot of the tools mentioned above and adding a few from my own experience. Emphasizing the tools that I think are super cool. Approved: Impact sockets and extensions Swivel impact sockets Sand blasting cabinet (large) 1/4" air die grinder 3" cutoff tool Metal punch set Aluminum floor jack Red and Black tool carts 44", 56", and 72" Tool boxes Prybars Plastic deadblow hammers Long handle needle nose pliers Moving dollies Moving blankets Step drill bit set Jack Stands Plastic scrapers Aluminum loading ramp HVLP Spray gun (Primer) Hydraulic lift table 25' tape (free) Oscillating Multifunction Power Tool 10 Amp, 120 Volt Demolition Hammer Adjustable Shade Auto-Darkening Welding Helmet High Speed Steel Step Drill Bits Things I avoid: Most electric power tools, with the exception of a few. Wire brushes / wire wheels / abrasives Paint brushes and roller covers Garden Tools and Hoses The ultra butch lesbian employee(s) A note on the free items: HORDE THEM! I probably have 2 dozen tape measures and and at least that many cheap pairs of scissors and screw driver sets. You know what? My life is better for it! I leave one of each tucked away in just about every room of the house and am constantly giving them away to my lame know nothing friends. Every time you go to HF you should leave with a free item.
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HF also gives out "free" coupons for their cheap multi-meters. If you don't need the precision, they're completely acceptable for basic work.
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Sointenly posted:A note on the free items: HORDE THEM! I probably have 2 dozen tape measures and and at least that many cheap pairs of scissors and screw driver sets. You know what? My life is better for it! I leave one of each tucked away in just about every room of the house That sounds sarcastic, but seriously.
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MRC48B posted:HF also gives out "free" coupons for their cheap multi-meters. If you don't need the precision, they're completely acceptable for basic work. Always keep an extra around (for calibration checks) if you're going to use one of the free ones. Mine's off by almost 2 volts on DC and I didn't realize right away. Got it a couple years ago, but it hasn't seen excessive use.
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Slugworth posted:A tape measure in every room? You are living the dream. Tape measure and a screw driver... This must be how Warren Buffet feels.
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