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So all Canadians look alike to you? Guess we know who the real racist is.
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Maybe they can work a hoedown into the Republican primaries.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:43
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Fulchrum posted:So all Canadians look alike to you? Guess we know who the real racist is. It's true, I largely distinguish Quebecois from Newfies from Albertans and all the rest by accent and hockey jersey.
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Sep 19, 2014 02:55
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Joementum posted:The Federal investigation into Bridgeghazi will find no connection to Chris Christie. Does the butter sculpture contest have a disqualification clause if the sculpture is eaten?
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Sep 19, 2014 03:02
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Alter Ego posted:No, you see, Obama's mother spent more than <something something> years out of the country, therefore by <US law I made up> she renounced her citizenship and Barry is a Kenyan. The one I got last time was "I don't know why he'd make it up, which shows just how much he loves lying!" Fulchrum posted:Anyway, if we're gonna talk about Presidential Punchability, we'd need to talk about how it breaks down to certain individuals. To you or I, FDR is in no way punchable. To Adam West, however.... Pretty much that. A lot fewer people turn into eager phrenologists before they know they dislike the politics beneath. It's at least less insidious than the idea that psychology is a tool which only describes the actions of the other side. vvvv I get it just fine. It just works better literally. Killer robot fucked around with this message at 13:11 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 06:39
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I don't think you quite got the joke.
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Sep 19, 2014 07:57
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ReidRansom posted:This one really isn't all that bad. I feel like these maps are designed by people who have never ventured beyond the bounds of a single metropolitan area, and don't know jack poo poo about the power of regional rivalries. I don't think the people of my state would be overjoyed about being thrown into the same political district as Buckeye jackholes or Jack Daniels-swilling Tennessee fucktards, let alone Duke basketball fans. Also: why the hell is Alaska two states? One of them would have the same population density as Antarctica.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:48
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I like that "North Plains" state. state is less than 50% plains
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Sep 19, 2014 14:07
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I like that there's just one state called "INDUSTRY". Proud citizens of Industry, unite.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:12
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ReidRansom posted:This one really isn't all that bad. Even if you ignore that all of the names are utterly terrible it was a map designed for the 1970s when the centers of population were much more concentrated in the Northeast. This is what I'm talking about : Mean and Median centers of population. Note the giant shift in both cases after 1970.  
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Sep 19, 2014 14:12
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Alter Ego posted:I like that there's just one state called "INDUSTRY". Both are essentially tax dodges. Industry is 100% zoned for, well, you can guess. No residential zoning = no residents = no voters = no need to pay for schools or parks or libraries or animal control or senior centers = no one to complain about blight and pollution. Commerce is similar (and is mostly notable for having an impressively lovely card-room casino in the middle of it).
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Sep 19, 2014 14:56
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Oh yeah the Commerce casino! I hear it's a pretty good card room, at least.
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Sep 19, 2014 14:57
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I don't think the people of my state would be overjoyed about being thrown into the same political district as Buckeye jackholes or Jack Daniels-swilling Tennessee fucktards, let alone Duke basketball fans. But New Jersey is grouped in a different state. 
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Sep 19, 2014 15:23
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Old Kentucky Shark posted:I feel like these maps are designed by people who have never ventured beyond the bounds of a single metropolitan area, and don't know jack poo poo about the power of regional rivalries. I don't think the people of my state would be overjoyed about being thrown into the same political district as Buckeye jackholes or Jack Daniels-swilling Tennessee fucktards, let alone Duke basketball fans. Both of the maps (16 and 38 state) were developed in the early 70s by researchers interested in two main things: changing state borders to more closely match agglomerations of metro areas as of their time period and secondarily to greatly reduce the variation in population between states - in 1970 the biggest (California) had 19,971,069 people and the smallest (Alaska) had 302,173. (and yes the 38 state guy's decision to split up alaska like that was counter to the goal and really stupid, but for the most part the rest of the design equalized populations much more). At the same time some people would be pissed about having their interstate rivals in the same state as them anew, there'd be a lot of consolidating down low population zones from multiple giant states to single larger ones, and a major effect of all of this (again, aside from splitting Alaska in the 38 state plan) would mean that the Senate would be a shitton less disproportionately assigned despite keeping equal senators for each state, and consequently the Electoral College would have better weighting.
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Sep 19, 2014 15:30
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Jackson Taus posted:To pass citizenship by blood you have to have lived in the US for 5 years after your 14th birthday (that was the law then, it's subsequently been loosened I think). Obama's mother was 18 when he was born, so she didn't meet that requirement. If he had been born in Kenya, he would not be a natural born citizen (he wasn't born in Kenya, he was born in Hawaii). That's right, any woman from age 14 to 19 can not give birth to US citizens, it's a little known loophole the rich use to not pay taxes.
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duz posted:That's right, any woman from age 14 to 19 can not give birth to US citizens, it's a little known loophole the rich use to not pay taxes. Oh, they can, they just have to be in the US at which point Jus Soli (which, incidentally, our reactionaries also hate, because children of illegal immigrants) applies.
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GreyjoyBastard posted:Oh, they can, they just have to be in the US at which point Jus Soli (which, incidentally, our reactionaries also hate, because children of illegal immigrants) applies. Has this ever actually happened? Because I don't think it would happen more than once. You're literally stranding a child overseas, potentially stateless, because of the age of their mother.
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:Has this ever actually happened? Because I don't think it would happen more than once. You're literally stranding a child overseas, potentially stateless, because of the age of their mother. Jackson Taus posted:To pass citizenship by blood you have to have lived in the US for 5 years after your 14th birthday (that was the law then, it's subsequently been loosened I think). Nowadays as best I know there are three options in this situation: 1) If both parents are US citizens, if either parent has ever lived in the United States, the child is American. 2) If one parent is a US citizen and one parent is a US national, if the US citizen has lived in the United States for at least a year before the child was born (whether they do or not currently), the child is American. 3) If one parent is a US citizen and the other isn't, if the U.S. citizen parent has been physically present in the U.S. before the child's birth for a total period of at least five years, and at least two of those five years were after the U.S. citizen parent's fourteenth birthday, the child is American. I guess this still leaves a theoretical gap at 14 and 15, but I don't know if it's come up, and it is looser than it was before. There are also some fringe situations (if you find an unknown child under five on American territory the child is assumed to be American until proven otherwise, for instance) but they're not relevant to that situation. Here's the relevant section. Note I'm not a lawyer (or, in fact, American) but this is what I could find out about it. Prism fucked around with this message at 17:47 on Sep 19, 2014 |
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Sep 19, 2014 17:42
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:Has this ever actually happened? Because I don't think it would happen more than once. You're literally stranding a child overseas, potentially stateless, because of the age of their mother. It is not a thing that actually happened because that is not an interpretation of the law that any court actually considered for longer than it takes to tell whoever argued it to "Get the gently caress out of my courtroom".
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Sep 19, 2014 18:00
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Prism posted:Nowadays as best I know there are three options in this situation: Yes, the law was loosened after Obama was born. To be clear, what I mentioned where the requirements in the 60s when he was born.
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Sep 19, 2014 18:08
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Jackson Taus posted:Yes, the law was loosened after Obama was born. To be clear, what I mentioned where the requirements in the 60s when he was born. Yes, I was mostly responding to Grover and showing the current state of affairs, using your comment that it had been loosened as a lead-in. Sorry for the confusion.
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Sep 19, 2014 18:12
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Jackson Taus posted:Yes, the law was loosened after Obama was born. To be clear, what I mentioned where the requirements in the 60s when he was born. So you're sticking with the idea that Obama is actually stateless and not that the five year minimum doesn't apply because it hadn't been five years?
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FMguru posted:One of the incorporated areas inside of Los Angeles County is simply named "Industry". It literally the City of Industry. There's also another area nearby that is "Commerce" and calls itself "City of Commerce". The City of Industry gets even better in that city officials also happen to own the few residential zoned areas and thus can determine who lives in the city and thus controls the entire electorate, meaning that nothing can threaten the hefty salaries they draw from their political position. Basically everything about the city reads like some kind of dystopian fiction dreamed up by a hack writer.
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Sep 19, 2014 20:01
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I mean, it's not like that sort of thing is without precedent.
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duz posted:So you're sticking with the idea that Obama is actually stateless and not that the five year minimum doesn't apply because it hadn't been five years? No, I believe Obama to be an Jus Soli American citizen since he was born in Honolulu. I said that in my original post on the topic. I am a pedant, not a Birther. I have no clue what would happen to the American citizenship of a child born under those laws to an American parent under the age of 19 and a foreign national, but I assume said child would be eligible for citizenship in his/her birth country or in the country of the other parent. I'd imagine said child could get US citizenship fairly easily if he/she came to live in the US but again, I don't know.
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Sep 19, 2014 21:45
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Joementum posted:The Federal investigation into Bridgeghazi will find no connection to Chris Christie.  IT'S ON!
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Sep 20, 2014 01:10
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Awesome so now all the right wingers who declared him a RINO will have to eat crow just like they did with Mitt, and probably because there's literally no one not loving insane but him, just like Mitt, he'll make it to the national race and then there'll be some beautiful infighting between the "I SAW HIM GETTIN CHUMMY WITH THE NEGRO" factions and the "Jesus christ can we just elect one loving flavor of nutjob who's somewhat subtle about it?" ones.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Awesome so now all the right wingers who declared him a RINO will have to eat crow just like they did with Mitt, and probably because there's literally no one not loving insane but him, just like Mitt, he'll make it to the national race and then there'll be some beautiful infighting between the "I SAW HIM GETTIN CHUMMY WITH THE NEGRO" factions and the "Jesus christ can we just elect one loving flavor of nutjob who's somewhat subtle about it?" ones. He's the one serious GOP hopeful Rand Paul has gone after by name, no?
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Sep 20, 2014 04:06
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Called it. I knew he'd be back in - he won't get shunted out until the primaries.
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De Nomolos posted:He's the one serious GOP hopeful Rand Paul has gone after by name, no? I think so? Rand's been kinda buckshotting it lately, basically any Republican who makes the news for more than a week he goes "YEA WELL HE'S A STATIST NAZI WHO PROBABLY HATES THE CONSTITUTION AND ONE TIME HE TOLD ME HE THOUGHT GEORGE WASHINGTON WAS A BITCH" Full Battle Rattle posted:Called it. I knew he'd be back in - he won't get shunted out until the primaries. Let's be honest, even if he was proven 100% guilty he'd probably have a fair chance of making it far in the primaries just because of the weak rear end pool.
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Periodiko posted:
Please forgive me, but: That is the face of the Chris-chan of politics.
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Sep 20, 2014 16:01
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It's that time again
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SedanChair posted:It's that time again But he's still in kittyjail??
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:But he's still in kittyjail?? That fool's a pale imitation who my gif basically created; he's my son.
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Sep 20, 2014 18:51
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Doesn't Christie still have a federal investigation ongoing over the allocation of Sandy relief funds?
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Sep 20, 2014 18:57
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ATP_Power posted:Doesn't Christie still have a federal investigation ongoing over the allocation of Sandy relief funds? At this point it doesn't matter what the law decides will happen to Christie or Perry. The right wing will still love them.
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Ninjasaurus posted:At this point it doesn't matter what the law decides will happen to Christie or Perry. The right wing will still love them. Though Christie's main appeal was "this guy can appeal to people outside of the Republican base" and that's not going to be true any longer.
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computer parts posted:Though Christie's main appeal was "this guy can appeal to people outside of the Republican base" and that's not going to be true any longer. True. He's pretty much unelectable in the general.
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Sep 21, 2014 00:59
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computer parts posted:Though Christie's main appeal was "this guy can appeal to people outside of the Republican base" and that's not going to be true any longer. Is that even an appeal for Republicans anymore?
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Fulchrum posted:Is that even an appeal for Republicans anymore? It's an appeal for the establishment section and is how we ended up with the uncontainable ball of charisma and inspiration that is Mitt Romeny last time. Though admittedly he was also going up against Moon Colonialists, Pokemon Quoters, Sky Admirals, and a Term You Should Not Google who wears sweater vests and plays this clip for hours on end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbgrX18pN-s
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