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Armchair Calvinist posted:My bench vise is a piece of poo poo and broken and I need a new one. Any suggestions under $120? (Including Craigslist) Are Craftsman vises any good? The biggest and heaviest you can find would be best, the old ones are some of the best, I have a smaller one that says made in England that weighs a good 40-50 lbs and it's been in the family for decades, drat thing has been abused to Hell and back by me and my father and works perfectly. Craigslist would be the best bet I think.
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Astonishing Wang posted:Check this out - I have a regular 12v adapter from this company and it's pretty good quality and an easy install. I built my own from russian amphenol plugs and usb chargers for about half the price of theirs.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:02
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Armchair Calvinist posted:My bench vise is a piece of poo poo and broken and I need a new one. Any suggestions under $120? (Including Craigslist) Are Craftsman vises any good? My opinion is that new vises are absolute poo poo unless you pay upwards of $300. Buy an old Wilton "bullet" vise from the 40's-50's and you'll never have to buy another again. I have a huge one that must weigh 80 pounds and it has put up with so much abuse. I paid $10 at the scrapyard for it and had to use prybars and a scissor jack to open the jaws, but after a quick restoration it is great. 
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Sep 18, 2014 05:24
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drat, that is a vice that looks like it will survive a nuclear bomb.
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Sep 18, 2014 05:39
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I see your Wilton, and raise you an Australian Dawn Offset Vice Please excuse terrible iPhone photography.
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Sep 18, 2014 10:39
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I had trouble finding the last round of brake line flaring tool chat. I recall the best option was an 'in-line' flaring tool. Any recommendations? I'll be running 3/16" Copper-Nickel.
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Sep 18, 2014 19:06
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My Lil Parachute posted:I see your Wilton, and raise you an Australian Dawn Offset Vice Holy gently caress!
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Sep 18, 2014 21:16
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Why in the living gently caress can't we get moderen vises as good as the old ones were. How goddamn hard could it be.
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Sep 18, 2014 23:05
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R-Type posted:Why in the living gently caress can't we get moderen vises as good as the old ones were. How goddamn hard could it be. Something about not being profitable enough to stay in business.
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Sep 18, 2014 23:07
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thebigcow posted:Something about not being profitable enough to stay in business. Vices and anvils, yeah, that is the actual unfortunate reason. 
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Sep 18, 2014 23:15
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My Lil Parachute posted:I see your Wilton, and raise you an Australian Dawn Offset Vice  e: probably easy enough with modern manufacturing to mass produce really nice vises, but lovely ones probably make more money
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Sep 18, 2014 23:20
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StormDrain posted:I had trouble finding the last round of brake line flaring tool chat. I recall the best option was an 'in-line' flaring tool. Any recommendations? I'll be running 3/16" Copper-Nickel. I got the OEM branded one from Auto zone. I think Amazon carries one that does more than just 3/16 though. Either way it is way, way easier than à bar clamp style.
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Sep 18, 2014 23:28
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StormDrain posted:I had trouble finding the last round of brake line flaring tool chat. I recall the best option was an 'in-line' flaring tool. Any recommendations? I'll be running 3/16" Copper-Nickel. Just ordered this: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/oes-24364 I'll report in here how it goes. Fingers are crossed.
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Sep 19, 2014 01:03
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That is exactly the same OEM inline flaring tool I have and here I am to say it rocks and is worth way more than 25 bucks.
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Sep 19, 2014 03:11
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kastein posted:That is exactly the same OEM inline flaring tool I have and here I am to say it rocks and is worth way more than 25 bucks. This makes me very happy. I really didn't want to buy a flaring tool because I don't think I'll ever need it after this project, but for $22, I figure it will be worth not dealing with more bullshit bar-clamp types.
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Sep 19, 2014 03:17
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Looking at it again on a real computer, I'm pretty sure it's the exact same one I have as well. It's probably as close to the ungodly awesome Eastwood hydraulic setup as you can get, at a tenth of the cost if you only have one flare type / size you need to do.
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Sep 19, 2014 04:12
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kastein posted:That is exactly the same OEM inline flaring tool I have and here I am to say it rocks and is worth way more than 25 bucks. Does it bubble flare? Edit: Wait or is that what they mean by double flare?
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Sep 19, 2014 05:32
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Splizwarf posted:Vices and anvils, yeah, that is the actual unfortunate reason. Someone posted the whole story of American and English affordable vise companies like a hundred pages back if you want to look for it, including suggestions on where to find vise collectors and beg them to sell you something for a reasonable price.
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Sep 19, 2014 05:34
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Preoptopus posted:Does it bubble flare? Sadly, no. Double flares only. You could single flare with it but that is a suicide wish on a car. People on car forums will say you can bubble flare with a double flare tool, usually by skipping a step... don't believe them unless you like your brake systems leaky and unreliable. If I need a line with a bubble flare on one end (I've never needed both ends bubble flared) I just buy the next length up preflared line with bubble flares, then cut the other end off, swap the bubble flare nut for a double flare nut, and double flare at the length I need.
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Sep 19, 2014 12:08
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thebigcow posted:Someone posted the whole story of American and English affordable vise companies like a hundred pages back if you want to look for it, including suggestions on where to find vise collectors and beg them to sell you something for a reasonable price. Go on garage journal, that's where the vise collectors are... including myself. I've got six old American vises, and only my lovely Larin is booked to my bench. For shame for shame
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Sep 19, 2014 12:38
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sharkytm posted:Go on garage journal, that's where the vise collectors are... including myself. I've got six old American vises, and only my lovely Larin is booked to my bench. For shame for shame I'll buy one off you. I broke the last craftsman vice I got for my dad. It was the deisel big dick one too. I need some old american iron.
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Sep 19, 2014 13:46
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Smoking deal on Vise Grip set (no vise grips): http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000GR37WU/ref=redir_mdp_mobile?ref_=cm_sw_r_fa_dp_IWchub0JF34QP Data: http://camelcamelcamel.com/Irwin-Vise-Grip-2078712-GrooveLock-8-Piece/product/B000GR37WU
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Sep 19, 2014 14:41
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Slow is Fast posted:I'll buy one off you. I broke the last craftsman vice I got for my dad. It was the deisel big dick one too. I need some old american iron. I can get pictures in a few days, I've got a bunch that I should sell. How big do you want? I've got a bunch of smaller (3" and 4") vises, and only one monster, which could use some work.
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Sep 20, 2014 18:13
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:This makes me very happy. I really didn't want to buy a flaring tool because I don't think I'll ever need it after this project, but for $22, I figure it will be worth not dealing with more bullshit bar-clamp types. Update: It just loving works. I'll probably end up redoing all the other flares too because it's so loving nice. So glad I bought it.
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Sep 20, 2014 21:41
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sharkytm posted:I can get pictures in a few days, I've got a bunch that I should sell. How big do you want? I've got a bunch of smaller (3" and 4") vises, and only one monster, which could use some work. You don't happen to have a 4" wilton by and chance?
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Sep 20, 2014 22:35
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Boaz MacPhereson posted:Update: It just loving works. I'll probably end up redoing all the other flares too because it's so loving nice. So glad I bought it. Flare tool chat: I didn't think to check this thread before placing an order for a flaring set, and of course I think of it after I've already ordered it.  I just ordered this one. It seems to get decent reviews for the most part, but can any of you weigh in on it by chance? Seems like a decent deal for an inline set in all of the included sizes. Which is good, but also worries me a bit.  I'll be using it for small-diameter stainless lines, at least for the project I'm currently trying to knock out.
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Sep 20, 2014 23:26
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sharkytm posted:I can get pictures in a few days, I've got a bunch that I should sell. How big do you want? I've got a bunch of smaller (3" and 4") vises, and only one monster, which could use some work. Depending on what the huge one is and what you want for it, i'd be interested
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Sep 20, 2014 23:33
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the spyder posted:You don't happen to have a 4" wilton by and chance? Are Wilton on the "good" list? I assumed they weren't because they're still in business. 
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Black88GTA posted:Flare tool chat: I didn't think to check this thread before placing an order for a flaring set, and of course I think of it after I've already ordered it. Looks like basically a larger set of the same style we all got, so I'd hazard a guess it will be good too. Basically all the two-bars-and-a-yoke style ones suck, and I'm willing to bet all the inline ones are decent unless they were made by total idiots. e: I have a wilton sitting in my basement waiting to be cleaned up and put to work as my shop vise, it seems like decent quality. The Irwin I paid too much for at HD in 2009 is the "yard vise" (because it sucks) and next time I remember I'll be welding up a quick and dirty 2" hitch drawbar mount for it so I can use it for emergency repairs in the woods by slotting it into my trailer hitch.
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kastein posted:Looks like basically a larger set of the same style we all got, so I'd hazard a guess it will be good too. Basically all the two-bars-and-a-yoke style ones suck, and I'm willing to bet all the inline ones are decent unless they were made by total idiots. I thought so too. I've never flared a line in my life, and even I knew to stay away from those. I guess I'm just basically hoping that they didn't manage to poo poo up a proven, good design with lovely metal and sloppy tooling. Guess I'll find out Despite my dislike for the design, I looked at a couple of the two-bars-and-a-yoke style as well, and they all seemed to suffer from the same flaws...except maybe this one which places the pinch point for the yoke central to the tube you're flaring, instead of on the ends. Why they aren't all built like that, I have no idea (although it is 3-4x the cost of the standard lovely ones). I required the inline type though, because I'm going to be doing all of these with the lines installed. gently caress pulling them out just to trim + reflare them.
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Sep 21, 2014 01:57
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I must be in the minority, because I have never had a problem with the two bar style brake flare tool, and I have flared hundreds of ends. Mine is one I bought at NAPA about 20 years ago for like $30. I have never bothered to look at the brand. Clamp tightly and it works very time. I may buy a set of the inline tools if they are that awesome, though.
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Sep 21, 2014 02:47
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Mine worked, but pissed me off and I had to use a screwdriver to get some leverage on the wing nuts. The inline one Just Works though, and I only tightened the allen head bolts between the halves with an undersized torx driver because I couldn't find my allen keys. That was enough to impress me.
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Sep 21, 2014 02:49
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I was doing my sister's brakes and got stuck on a screw that doesn't want to come out. And, well, I started to strip it. I'm guessing I need a screw extractor to get it out? Any recommendations? I have a Home Depot and Menards near here, plus all the regular chain auto parts stores. It was all going surprisingly easy up until that point, too. drat it.
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Uthor posted:I was doing my sister's brakes and got stuck on a screw that doesn't want to come out. And, well, I started to strip it. I'm guessing I need a screw extractor to get it out? Any recommendations? I have a Home Depot and Menards near here, plus all the regular chain auto parts stores. Was it a small aluminum screw that held the brake rotor to the hub? If so, those are only used for factory assembly purposes and not at all required to stop the car. Whack an appropriately sized chisel into the head and strike the chisel from angles that nudge the bolt/screw to thread out.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:19
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I hope nobody plans on using their craftsman lifetime warranty for much longer....
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Sep 21, 2014 06:51
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Counterpoint: Cheap tools at the going out of business sale.
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Sep 21, 2014 06:57
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Powershift posted:Counterpoint: Cheap tools at the going out of business sale. Yeah. Don't forget that Kmart also carries Craftman products. Kmart/Sears tried to keep it under wraps, but there is another major round of closures headed this way, and this time, it's a death knell. They are going to start closing distribution centers, and they are trying to jettison Canada completely. No modern store has a 7 day turnaround for restocking, but Kmart/Sears is working on it.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:07
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Sears owns k-mart.
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Sep 21, 2014 07:22
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Powershift posted:Sears owns k-mart. Negative ghostrider, Kmart bought Sears. They made a huge mess of poo poo, but Kmart bought Sears for the Craftsman and Kenmore brand-names, and for Sears' Hoffman Estate HQ. How much of a gently caress up do you have to be to be bought out by Kmart? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kmart
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InterceptorV8 posted:Negative ghostrider, Kmart bought Sears. They made a huge mess of poo poo, but Kmart bought Sears for the Craftsman and Kenmore brand-names, and for Sears' Hoffman Estate HQ. The "sears" that's bleeding to death is "sears holding corp" of which k-mart and sears retail stores are subsidiaries. K-mart buying sears is how it happened, but sears holding corp, which owns k-mart, is what is failing.
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