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Someone should recut Generations so that the entire Patrick Stewart Christmas Carol is Picard's fantasy
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Sep 21, 2014 20:57
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Sash! posted:Someone should recut Generations so that the entire Patrick Stewart Christmas Carol is Picard's fantasy Wowbagger2004 posted:Literally every ludicrous fan fiction idea for improving Generations is way better than what we got, god drat.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:02
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Cythereal posted:Then again, the whole Kirk vs. Picard argument is silly anyway. Sisko is clearly the best captain of the franchise. He even was the lead designer on his own ship. e: Alternately his tenure as a commander of a space station colored people's opinions, and his relatively low rank cast a shadow on his career, in the eyes of the fans.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:06
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Also because Kirk vs Picard was a thing from before DS9 was a thing which gave it legs.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:38
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Sisko vs. Archer vs. What'shername?
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Sep 21, 2014 21:44
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Nessus posted:I guess perhaps Sisko was simply less famous. DS9, while a far better product, seems to have been less an element of popular culture than TNG was. Are you suggesting something about white male computer nerds of the 1990s and their ability to perceive certain colors, or people who were colored in some specific way?
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Sep 21, 2014 21:45
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I would say this was timely, but with the amount of time this thread spends describing How to Fix Star Trek Generations it could have been written any time in the last 20 years and been timely.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:47
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Replace the nexus scene in Generations with the TV miniseries Moby Dick starring Patrick Stewart. It makes it flow into First Contact better.
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Sep 21, 2014 21:53
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Cojawfee posted:Replace the nexus scene in Generations with the TV miniseries Moby Dick starring Patrick Stewart. It makes it flow into First Contact better. Worf's promotion is onboard the Pequod. Knew it.
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Sep 21, 2014 23:25
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Barlow posted:The fact that Kirk didn't die heroically in starship combat in the captains chair of the Enterprise, with the bridge in flames around him, has always seemed like a shame. You have one shot to kill off the second most iconic character in the franchise and you waste it on him falling when trying to find a remote control seems really stupid. They should have decided on a heroic death for Kirk and written the script from there. I kind of like the idea that Kirk's death is totally non-dramatic and non-grandiose. It shows that Kirk is ultimately still human, and he's just as fallible to the laws of physics as any other character. This time his plot shields went down to 0% and he died. That's it. It balances out all the other times our hero(es) survive a dangerous encounter by sheer luck.
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Sep 21, 2014 23:57
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Sash! posted:Someone should recut Generations so that the entire Patrick Stewart Christmas Carol is Picard's fantasy There is a Kirk-less version of Generations floating around the net.
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Sep 22, 2014 00:19
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Mister Kingdom posted:There is a Kirk-less version of Generations floating around the net. Star Trek: Generation
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Sep 22, 2014 00:55
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Subyng posted:I kind of like the idea that Kirk's death is totally non-dramatic and non-grandiose. It shows that Kirk is ultimately still human, and he's just as fallible to the laws of physics as any other character. This time his plot shields went down to 0% and he died. That's it. It balances out all the other times our hero(es) survive a dangerous encounter by sheer luck. Don't trick yourself into thinking this was intentional.
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Sep 22, 2014 01:37
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My new favorite star trek picture
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Sep 22, 2014 01:56
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Odo never quite did get the hang of humanoid faces. Also, from last page, confirming that The Visitor is a terrific episode of sci-fi.
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Sep 22, 2014 02:48
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Data Graham posted:Don't trick yourself into thinking this was intentional. Well I never had any strong feelings about Generations as a whole to begin with so it's not like I'm desperately trying to rationalize it to myself.
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Sep 22, 2014 03:52
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Voyager episode 12 - Someone actually wrote an episode where Chakote gets his soul knocked out by aliens that is also half The Thing in space. Voyager episode 13 - Human B'lanna is actually pretty cute. Also more of those stupid phage aliens and their magic medical technology.
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Sep 22, 2014 04:22
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Oh God they made Dargo cry and it made me want to cry 
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Sep 22, 2014 04:49
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D'argo succeeds much better than Worf at the whole being Worf thing. It's nice to have a badass warrior race dude who just wants to farm, raise a family and chill out and isn't too into the entire macho warrior race thing.
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Sep 22, 2014 05:20
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Barlow posted:D'argo succeeds much better than Worf at the whole being Worf thing. It's nice to have a badass warrior race dude who just wants to farm, raise a family and chill out and isn't too into the entire macho warrior race thing. He also has good news to tell you at weddings
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Sep 22, 2014 05:24
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bobkatt013 posted:He also has good news to tell you at weddings Also he's your daddy
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Sep 22, 2014 05:30
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Nessus posted:I guess perhaps Sisko was simply less famous. DS9, while a far better product, seems to have been less an element of popular culture than TNG was. I think a lot of it comes from people being upset about it being set on static space station and not on space ship like the other shows.
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Sep 22, 2014 05:57
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Barlow posted:It's nice to have a badass warrior race dude who just wants to farm Worf can farm, he just chooses not to.
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Sep 22, 2014 06:23
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Barlow posted:D'argo succeeds much better than Worf at the whole being Worf thing. It's nice to have a badass warrior race dude who just wants to farm, raise a family and chill out and isn't too into the entire macho warrior race thing. Worf got ten times better once DS9 got into the whole 'Klingon Weeaboo' thing and the implication that he's actually just dour because he's a Russian.
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Sep 22, 2014 06:52
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Lowen SoDium posted:... But Kirk destroyed that ship in Search For Spock so it would make a paradox!  As much as I like confirming that most fanfiction is better than Generations, whenever we do this I almost want to see if I can go through and pick out which episode/movie each person's idea was lifted from but then I fear it would make me nerdy enough that I'd have to beat myself up.
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Sep 22, 2014 07:23
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MikeJF posted:Worf got ten times better once DS9 got into the whole 'Klingon Weeaboo' thing and the implication that he's actually just dour because he's a Russian. See look they just can't stop stealing from Babylon 5!!!
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Sep 22, 2014 09:01
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Drive-by Q Mariachi attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBTRp80Q64U
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Sep 22, 2014 12:06
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If they wanted to explore some family concept, they should have made it so Picard realizes his family is the Ent-D and her crew.
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Sep 22, 2014 12:51
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Sash! posted:Worf can farm, he just chooses not to. Except when it is used in a martial metaphor, about defeating time.
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Sep 22, 2014 13:11
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twistedmentat posted:If they wanted to explore some family concept, they should have made it so Picard realizes his family is the Ent-D and her crew. Maybe it's just me, but this makes it sound a lot like Event Horizon.
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Sep 22, 2014 14:06
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Luigi Thirty posted:See look they just can't stop stealing from Babylon 5!!! As corny as some of those were, I always giggle at the 'expanding Russian frontier' joke.
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Sep 22, 2014 14:18
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twistedmentat posted:If they wanted to explore some family concept, they should have made it so Picard realizes his family is the Ent-D and her crew. The problem with this scenario is that it implies that once he retires from Captaining, he'll basically be some old relic who dies alone SolidSnakesBandana fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Sep 22, 2014 14:47
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:The problem with this scenario is that it implies that once he retires from Captaining, he'll basically be some old relic who dies alone All Good Things....
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Sep 22, 2014 14:54
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DemeaninDemon posted:All Good Things.... I was just imagining what my life would be like if my co-workers were my only family. In fact, most characters in Star Trek shows have very few relationships outside their immediate co-workers.
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Sep 22, 2014 14:59
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Are the Titan books good? We've got a long car ride coming up, and I was going to get the first two for the trip. Edit: These would the the audio version. If not those, then someone recommend where to start? Bruiser fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Sep 22, 2014 |
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Sep 22, 2014 15:45
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twistedmentat posted:If they wanted to explore some family concept, they should have made it so Picard realizes his family is the Ent-D and her crew. The episode with his brother was amazing, though.
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Sep 22, 2014 17:03
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Been watching the first season of TNG on BBC and it's surprising how ambitious the show originally was.
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Sep 22, 2014 17:16
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Iowa Snow King posted:Been watching the first season of TNG on BBC and it's surprising how ambitious the show originally was. don't you mean weird and lame edit: I love TNG and I would have cancelled it after the first season
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Sep 22, 2014 17:20
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I got watching Farscape and now I want to grow up to be a Peacekeeper. Aside from the weird bondage guy and Captain Overreaction, they're not that bad.
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Well, other than the fact that they are literally fascists who dress entirely in black with red accents and believe the other races are disgusting and not as awesome as they are and wage military campaigns to crush non-sebacens. I mean, I think the SS had sweet suits, but I wouldn't want to be a literal Nazi 
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