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Why was he hooked up to medical equipment? I can't remember if the explanation.
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Suspicious Lump posted:Why was he hooked up to medical equipment? I can't remember if the explanation. Cause he's an old-rear end man?
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Sep 3, 2014 02:20
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He's old and his body was failing, which means he must've been a true monster in his prime if even as an old "cripple" he was still the strongest man in the world.
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Sep 3, 2014 02:21
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Drakkel posted:Cause he's an old-rear end man?
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Sep 3, 2014 13:37
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Suspicious Lump posted:Yeah that's a pretty lame rear end reason (Silvers was old too) but I guess trying to make a point that he isn't in his prime. Whitebeard was like... 70-something during the War of the Best. He is an old-rear end man. Edit: Yeah he was 72 at that point. Crazyeyes fucked around with this message at 03:18 on Sep 4, 2014 |
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Sep 4, 2014 03:12
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Age is one of those things in One Piece that only hinders you if the plot calls for it. Hence why Dr Kureha is fine despite being literally twice as old as Whitebeard was.
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Sep 4, 2014 03:20
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I think Oda said that 130's the average age for humans in OP, so it's more that Whitebeard's in his fifty's and really sick. Kureha's just weird because no one should be that healthy at 130.
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Sep 4, 2014 03:38
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Last Celebration posted:I think Oda said that 130's the average age for humans in OP, so it's more that Whitebeard's in his fifty's and really sick. Kureha's just weird because no one should be that healthy at 130.  Maybe Whitebeard has Pirate diabetes or something.
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Sep 4, 2014 03:50
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Heavy Metal posted:Lemmy from Motorhead is 68, so I'll guess 68 in One Piece years for Whitebeard. They both have excellent facial hair too. Scurvy 
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Sep 4, 2014 04:05
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Suspicious Lump posted:Yeah that's a pretty lame rear end reason (Silvers was old too) Silvers has been retired for a long time, gambling, drinking, coating boats and banging his not-wife. Whitebeard has been active all this time.
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Sep 5, 2014 08:57
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I finally caught up from the last few weeks. So Doflamingo made an appearance in episode 151, and it wasn't until episode 655 that anyone actually named his fruit (though I think most people figured it out by then), which is 504 episodes. So that means that Monkey D Dragon will almost certainly hold the title for longest time spent without naming his power. He was introduced in episode 52, so that's already nearly 600 episodes. I have a feeling it is the Ten Ten Fruit, but I could be way wrong.
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Sep 14, 2014 19:36
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Shadow0 posted:I finally caught up from the last few weeks. So Doflamingo made an appearance in episode 151, and it wasn't until episode 655 that anyone actually named his fruit (though I think most people figured it out by then), which is 504 episodes. So that means that Monkey D Dragon will almost certainly hold the title for longest time spent without naming his power. He was introduced in episode 52, so that's already nearly 600 episodes. I have a feeling it is the Ten Ten Fruit, but I could be way wrong. Episodes don't mean anything because there can be more or less filler material in them. If your desire is the measure how long between introduction and reveal is, you should go back to the chapters.
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Sep 14, 2014 20:07
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"d[-.- posted:b" post="434880496"] No one is going to have their powers revealed in filler, so it still works. Though I agree the manga is the pure source material. Someone else can check the manga chapter count if they want. I think Dragon's power might actually be the longest reveal other than one piece, unless I'm forgetting something? Shadow0 fucked around with this message at 14:29 on Sep 15, 2014 |
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Sep 15, 2014 14:27
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Shadow0 posted:No one is going to have their powers revealed in filler, so it still works. Though I agree the manga is the pure source material. Someone else can check the manga chapter count if they want. Off the top of my head, I think you're right, I think what Jinbe looks like is another looong one.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:24
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I don't know if this counts but we still know nothing about Luffy's mom.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:31
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Senor Candle posted:I don't know if this counts but we still know nothing about Luffy's mom. Luffy is anti-Jesus. He was born with no mother.
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Sep 15, 2014 15:49
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I'm betting on Dragon having a legendary Zoan fruit for a Chinese dragon or something. Usually there are hints dropped at what fruit a user might have, such as Whitebeard's earthquake laugh.
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Sep 15, 2014 19:49
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TheRamblingSoul posted:I'm betting on Dragon having a legendary Zoan fruit for a Chinese dragon or something. Usually there are hints dropped at what fruit a user might have, such as Whitebeard's earthquake laugh. Yeah, but there are also red herrings, remember Kaku.
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Sep 16, 2014 09:04
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Momonosuke already has a Chinese dragon Zoan type, although it is a (failed) smile so I guess Dragon could have the true version, or just a different model. But unless I'm remembering incorrectly, at Logue Town Dragon appeared to use some kind of wind blast to save Luffy from Smoker/the marines, so that would imply a Paramecia/Logia (or some kind of retconned Haki power).
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Sep 16, 2014 12:31
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Rage McDougal posted:Momonosuke already has a Chinese dragon Zoan type, although it is a (failed) smile so I guess Dragon could have the true version, or just a different model. But unless I'm remembering incorrectly, at Logue Town Dragon appeared to use some kind of wind blast to save Luffy from Smoker/the marines, so that would imply a Paramecia/Logia (or some kind of retconned Haki power). Chinese dragons have all kinds of weather control powers.
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Sep 16, 2014 13:03
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Yeah one of the strongest things being Chinese Dragons used their horns to conduct/control lightning strikes.
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Sep 16, 2014 14:54
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He seemed to have control over wind and lightning. But it was tinted green for some reason too. I wouldn't doubt the rain was also his fault. I'm pretty sure he has a paramecia type and can control weather. Maybe the Ten Ten (天天) fruit. Although that's Nami's power too.
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Sep 16, 2014 15:49
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GoldenPrice posted:Chinese dragons have all kinds of weather control powers. Ah, I didn't know about that. I was about to argue that he's still human when he uses his wind blast, but then I remembered that Marco still has his regeneration when human, so it could be that mythical zoans keep their powers in all forms. In regards to the lightning though, it was pointed out earlier (here or in the manga thread) that Nami predicts the storm before it happens, so it may just be a natural one (unless Dragon has to take a really long time to make a thunder storm by slowly changing the air pressure, or it's a coincidence that he makes lightning in the middle of a natural storm.) Alternative possibility: I'm just thinking way too hard about magic powers in a manga for teenage boys.
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Rage McDougal posted:Momonosuke already has a Chinese dragon Zoan type, although it is a (failed) smile so I guess Dragon could have the true version, or just a different model. But unless I'm remembering incorrectly, at Logue Town Dragon appeared to use some kind of wind blast to save Luffy from Smoker/the marines, so that would imply a Paramecia/Logia (or some kind of retconned Haki power). IIRC wasn't the fruit made by Vegapunk, and said to be a "Failure" by C.C. who wouldn't be that reliable in that matter? Shadow0 posted:He seemed to have control over wind and lightning. But it was tinted green for some reason too. I wouldn't doubt the rain was also his fault. I'm pretty sure he has a paramecia type and can control weather. Maybe the Ten Ten (天天) fruit. Although that's Nami's power too. You can't really judge the color of something by how the anime does it.
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Sep 16, 2014 18:40
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Only the anime and videogames represented that storm as something weird, with that green effect and such. In the manga it's a common storm that Nami even predicts a few chapters before it happens. In fact, Smoker commented that Luffy was abonormally lucky with that thunderbolt that saved him and the favorable wind to escape, which is the same thing Doc Q said when he picked one of his non-explosive apples. So any assumption about Dragon's ability is purely based on filler.
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Sep 16, 2014 19:08
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^^^^^ While I agree about the storm, there is a panel in the manga where Dragon says "Wind blast!" and a whole bunch of marines are blown away by something. While looking for that page online though, I noticed that the fan translations make it less clear that it's an attack name (MangaPanda has "It's a gust!", implying it isn't even Dragon talking), which may be where some confusion comes from. The offical Viz translation says "Wind blast!"
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Sep 16, 2014 19:37
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Petiso posted:Only the anime and videogames represented that storm as something weird, with that green effect and such. In the manga it's a common storm that Nami even predicts a few chapters before it happens. Nah, it's still possibly a power of Dragon's, since it's quite fitting based on his name. All that means is he can't create weather movements out of nothing and can just manipulate it, so he has to set up big things in advance. Tho I suppose it could be Oda dropping a red herring
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Sep 16, 2014 20:11
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While I don't necessarily think that his power isn't a dragon, the fact that he is named Dragon makes it kind of weird for him to have such a power. It'd be like naming your cat "Cat" or naming your villain "Grievous". It would just feel like a dumb name in my opinion. The green tint just makes me think there might be some Japanese pun involved.
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Sep 16, 2014 20:30
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Shadow0 posted:It would just feel like a dumb name in my opinion. The manga is filled with themed named people, such as all the original warlords.
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Sep 16, 2014 20:55
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Rage McDougal posted:^^^^^ I don't think that's Dragon shouting an attack, his mouth isn't even open in that panel. The official spanish volume is closer to the Mangapanda one, "A gust of wind!".
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Sep 16, 2014 21:59
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Rage McDougal posted:In regards to the lightning though, it was pointed out earlier (here or in the manga thread) that Nami predicts the storm before it happens, so it may just be a natural one (unless Dragon has to take a really long time to make a thunder storm by slowly changing the air pressure, or it's a coincidence that he makes lightning in the middle of a natural storm.) Nami can predict weather in the Grand Line and is so good with weather she can use dials to create weather phenomena, so her predicting even Devil Fruit storms doesn't really mean anything. I would guess that Dragon's tattoo would be more predictive of his Devil Fruit, should he have one, than anything else we've seen so far. Though I've got no idea what it is.
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The lesser "brother" finally appears (90% sure that's him). Hopefully he's gotten more interesting. I don't know about you guys, but I never cared for Sabo.
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Sep 22, 2014 03:48
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The anime compared to the manga has had perhaps the worst padding I've ever seen in my entire life. Every episode feels like watching paint dry in terms of both amusement and pacing. The art continues to degrade into derpiness as Toei progressively gives less shits about the anime's execution as it remains popular with Japan's uneducated peons who cannot acknowledge the finer arts when they see it. One Piece Anime Grade: F.
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Sep 22, 2014 04:22
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From a Tumblr account that compiles ugly shots from the anime:quote:Is Toei seriously STILL doing that 12-pages-an-episode crap they have done the whole arc? I just can't fathom how can they cover even less than a chapter in 20 minutes, I haven't watched a single episode in years but that sounds impossible to watch, do they add filler scenes in every single episode? do they pad every one-panel joke into a several minutes long sequence until you're sick of it?
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Sep 22, 2014 09:40
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Petiso posted:From a Tumblr account that compiles ugly shots from the anime: Someone linked an anime clip in the manga thread (unfortunately it's not on Youtube anymore) which was Luffy and someone else in the Colosseum (Don Chin Jao?) doing nothing but staring at each other while the crowd cheered for 50 seconds. It's reaching final-episodes-of-Evangelion bad. It's especially sad because despite its (many) flaws I really enjoyed the anime up to the end of Enies Lobby (and I'm currently re-watching the series and still enjoying it), but it just becomes irredeemable awful from around Amazon Lilly. I keep reading things in the manga thinking "I can't wait to see this in (limited) animation!", and then remember how bad the anime now is and that it would just be disappointing.
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Sep 22, 2014 11:03
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I don't have issues with this, because I just skip the dumb parts. 
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Sep 22, 2014 11:19
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Petiso posted:do they pad every one-panel joke into a several minutes long sequence until you're sick of it? They dont just drag the jokes out. They repeat them endlessly. They add new scenes which are essentially the old jokes repeated over again.
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Sep 22, 2014 11:23
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Wow, I thought the last 4 or so episodes were amazing! I dont know what the deal was but the animation seem to have gotten better. The fights were sorta skipped but still, good episodes Tra-guy  Can someone remind me when did Luffy pick a fight with Big Mama? Also I forgot, why did Tra-guy want Joker dead, revenge for Cora or is this still up coming stuff? Anime only here.
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Sep 22, 2014 16:11
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He picked a fight over candy on fishman island IIRC.
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The animation generally ramps up at the big moments, presumably to satisfy the people who are excited to see important manga scenes in motion. Everything from the Sanji/Doflamingo fight onwards is pretty huge though, so Toei will have to bust some serious rear end to keep people happy. Luffy got into a fight with Big Mom after Fishman Island. The fishmen produce candy for Big Mom as part of her protection racket, and Luffy basically told her to gently caress off when they called up asking what was going on.
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