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It's not a straight port but it's pretty drat close. And no loving custom portrait support.
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(Vesperia spoiler) How the gently caress did I not notice Regaey is Yeager backwards? 
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dmboogie posted:Vesperia has its flaws, but man did they get the protagonist right. Yuri's probably one of my all-time favorite JRPG heroes, mostly because he's so refreshingly competent (and has a really nice voice). Yuri Lowell is the best gay androgynous anarchist protagonist jRPGs have ever had.
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Sep 23, 2014 09:33
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So I just noticed some new gust rpg called Ar Nosurge came out today, never heard of it or the franchise its tied to. Basically no one is talking about it so this leads me to believe its either bad or trash. Anyone know what it's deal is?
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Sep 24, 2014 00:29
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:So I just noticed some new gust rpg called Ar Nosurge came out today, never heard of it or the franchise its tied to. Basically no one is talking about it so this leads me to believe its either bad or trash. Anyone know what it's deal is? Can't tell you if it's good though. I like Ar Tonelico but 3 was loving weird and also pretty objectively bad and I don't know if no surge is closer to the good games (1 and 2, especially 2) or closer to 3.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:30
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:So I just noticed some new gust rpg called Ar Nosurge came out today, never heard of it or the franchise its tied to. Basically no one is talking about it so this leads me to believe its either bad or trash. Anyone know what it's deal is? It's a prequel to the Ar Tonelico series, which are known for being pretty creepy and bad except for 2 which was apparently good but it seemed to me that it was just creepy and okay instead of bad and so I wouldn't expect great things.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:31
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Also, because it's a prequel and/or spirtual to a niche JRPG series that has it's own stigma attached to it. Major things I know/heard about Ar no Surge are that it takes aspects from Tonelico's best battle system(2) and that it might have a tendency to freeze during battle, but I don't know how true that actually is.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:35
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Bummer. The last two atelier games really clicked with me so I figured maybe gust makes other good games besides those. Apparently not really.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:39
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Pretty much the only games Gust has ever made are Atelier games. The Ar series consists of like five games released over 10 years, and everything else they've ever made is Atelier. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_aSv8hyUZI Unless you want to talk about Jet Ion GP.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:40
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Even Ar Tonelico was just an attempt to branch off from Atelier. It recycles combat engines and even a simple crafting system from AI but adds in a lot of unnecessary creep.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:44
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It also has apparently majour story ties to a game that we didn't and won't ever get, so there's that too.
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:Bummer. The last two atelier games really clicked with me so I figured maybe gust makes other good games besides those. Apparently not really. Ar Tonelico 2 is honestly one of Gust's best games, and all of the games still feature item crafting elements. I'd say 1 and 2 worth at least a look if you can get past some of the creepier aspects that pop up and can endure Luca's sheer awfulness in AT2.
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Endorph posted:Pretty much the only games Gust has ever made are Atelier games. The Ar series consists of like five games released over 10 years, and everything else they've ever made is Atelier. Mana Khemia 1 and 2? Officially they're referred to as Atelier games but I kind of feel like they have a bit more of a focus on story and combat than the average Atelier game.
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Forest Thief Pud posted:Ar Tonelico 2 is honestly one of Gust's best games, and all of the games still feature item crafting elements. I'd say 1 and 2 worth at least a look if you can get past some of the creepier aspects that pop up and can endure Luca's sheer awfulness in AT2. Keep in mind that the English translation was such a disaster they apologized for it. Grinnblade posted:Mana Khemia 1 and 2? Officially they're referred to as Atelier games but I kind of feel like they have a bit more of a focus on story and combat than the average Atelier game. They're no really any different from a usual Atelier game. The various games have had different takes on the time/crafting/story systems and MK isn't too far different.
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ImpAtom posted:Keep in mind that the English translation was such a disaster they apologized for it.
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ImpAtom posted:Keep in mind that the English translation was such a disaster they apologized for it. yeah part of the reason I didn't really like it was because I honestly couldn't follow the plot at all admittedly, I'm pretty dumb but in this case i'm pretty sure it was the games fault.
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Endorph posted:And the game features a crippling bug that forces you to level grind high enough to beat a boss in 3 turns. That too, although to be fair it's kind of trivial because AT2's combat system is so easy to break.
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Maybe Nosurge is the greatest game Gust has ever made and will ever make. But none of us will know. Jokes aside, looking at footage of AT3 I would guess it was made by Compile Heart, not gust. So probably gonna pass on all of these.
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Grinnblade posted:Mana Khemia 1 and 2? Officially they're referred to as Atelier games but I kind of feel like they have a bit more of a focus on story and combat than the average Atelier game. They were announced as Project A(Number), and the PS2 Atelier games in general were more story driven than previous and later titles. Also, there's the fact that Mana Khemia 2 kind of sucks and has a lot of half-baked ideas. ImpAtom posted:Keep in mind that the English translation was such a disaster they apologized for it. Yeah, aspects of the localization were pretty inexcusable, which was unfortunate, but I still think it's worth a look despite NISA royally loving that localization up.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:53
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Ar Tonelico 2 is fun because the main character drops sick burns on people and screams MAXIMUM PENETRATION when he does his super move
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Sep 24, 2014 00:54
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Mr. Sunabouzu posted:Maybe Nosurge is the greatest game Gust has ever made and will ever make. But none of us will know. I picked up Nosurge, actually, but right now the only thing I can confirm is that the creep factor is too drat high  Some things get worse with HD graphics.
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Sep 24, 2014 00:58
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OddObserver posted:I picked up Nosurge, actually, but right now the only thing I can confirm is that the creep factor is too drat high Thanks for your sacrifice, now I know for sure I dodged a bullet. So september has been a jrpg wasteland huh.
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I still really like the first two Ar tonelico games. The third one is trash but definitely look at the first two, AT1 feels like an Atelier Iris 3 (unlike the actual Atelier Iris 3, which feels like Mana Khemia 0) and features the best crafting system implementation, while AT2 has a super fun battle system. Both games also feature incredible soundtracks. AT1 also has barely any "creep" unless you're actually offended by silly references to sex. Admiral H. Curtiss fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Sep 24, 2014 |
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:AT1 also has barely any "creep" unless you're actually offended by silly references to sex. It has creepy fetish costumes, weird hyper-sexualized still art scenes and lots of coded "oh protagonist-sama, please shove your
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If you're gonna play any of the games in the Ar Tonelico series, play the second one as it's pretty much the best of the series. Or just listen to the OST because it's really good.
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The best (only good) thing about Ar Tonelico 3 was the equal opportunity fanservice finishing moves. Sure, all the chicks had creepy stripping transformations to get stronger, but then you got the finishing moves for the male characters and it turns out that being naked just makes you super powerful in this universe for some reason. I actually enjoyed AT1 and AT2 despite the creepiness and Luca, so I might actually get Ar Nosurge... Eventually. Probably not soon, they don't deserve that after Qoga.
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Maybe I'm just a philistine/caveman but I tried to play the first Ar Tonelico and it creeped me out before I could get really far. I mean the story was about "diving" into anime girls and pleasing them until "paradigm shift" happens, and playing dress up was an actual gameplay mechanic. I dunno it weirded me out and the gameplay wasn't so great anyway.
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Ah, Ar Tonelico, the series that teaches that the path to true love isn’t about spending time getting to understand your partner and forming a natural chemistry, just strip away their memories and personality and replace them with versions programmed to fall in love with you. Who says romance is dead? Feinne has LP's of all three games on the LP Archive, although I think all the videos were lost to Viddler's
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Ah, Ar Tonelico, the series that teaches that the path to true love isn’t about spending time getting to understand your partner and forming a natural chemistry, just strip away their memories and personality and replace them with versions programmed to fall in love with you. Who says romance is dead? How the holy hell did you get that from any of the cosmospheres, especially Ar tonelico II? I mean, let's be honest here, as iterated by multiple other people, the series doesn't need more help being creepy without a wildly inaccurate interpretation of events being thrown on top of it.
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Grinnblade posted:How the holy hell did you get that from any of the cosmospheres, especially Ar tonelico II? The third girl's cosmospheres (well okay, only in the second and third games) gimmick is that the protagonist's memories and personality are sealed and replaced with those of someone else for the duration of the visit. Those visits are the only way to advance the relationship between the protagonist and third girl, there's nothing in the real world - no chemistry or even semi-romantic interaction. Because the memories and personality are replaced I can't identify those two separate protagonist characters as the same person. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Sep 24, 2014 |
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What are the features in P4G that require PSN access? It doesn't specify, but I want to play it at work and I don't have wifi here.
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Dross posted:What are the features in P4G that require PSN access? It doesn't specify, but I want to play it at work and I don't have wifi here. You can see what other people did during the day (went home, advanced X social link, etc) and you can send help requests mid dungeon which give the person minor amounts of HP and SP when their next battle starts. It's nothing major.
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Dross posted:What are the features in P4G that require PSN access? It doesn't specify, but I want to play it at work and I don't have wifi here. The major thing is that you can call for help in a dungeon and then get a HP/SP restore when a battle starts based on how many people answered your call. It's a nice thing that helps you, but in no way required to beat the game.
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Forest Thief Pud posted:The major thing is that you can call for help in a dungeon and then get a HP/SP restore when a battle starts based on how many people answered your call. It's a nice thing that helps you, but in no way required to beat the game.
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Nate RFB posted:There's also not very many people on it at the moment so you're not going to get much in the way of HP/SP anyway. I donno, there seem to be enough people playing it that you get regular bursts even now. I was tooling through a dungeon earlier and still got a few rescue messages.
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ImpAtom posted:It has creepy fetish costumes, weird hyper-sexualized still art scenes and lots of coded "oh protagonist-sama, please shove your I demand to see a pivot table running fan service comparison in Gust games. ImpAtom, admit it you are keeping track of anime games in excel, and tabulating creepiness factor! I haven't played At 2 and 3, but remember 1 being fairly good. . Going to have to dig it IP and put it on my PS2 RPG to be played stack.
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oblomov posted:I demand to see a pivot table running fan service comparison in Gust games. ImpAtom, admit it you are keeping track of anime games in excel, and tabulating creepiness factor! 0 is Atelier Escha & Logy. 10 is Ar Tonelico 2. If you just look at these complex maths I have right here you'll see that Ar Tonelico 1 is a clear 7 on the meter.
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ImpAtom posted:0 is Atelier Escha & Logy. 10 is Ar Tonelico 2. If you just look at these complex maths I have right here you'll see that Ar Tonelico 1 is a clear 7 on the meter. Wait, does that make AT3 have 27 creep factor?
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its not necessarily creepy in the usual way since she's like 30 but the fact that threia's boobs bounced every time she entered or exited a scene was kind of weird in escha and logy
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oblomov posted:Wait, does that make AT3 have 27 creep factor? I have no played AT3 so it is possible I may need to redo my math to compensate for this staggering new information!
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