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Goku is, like, a million times cooler than Gohan you lunatics!
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Sep 26, 2014 21:14
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Kild posted:Why couldn't he have absorbed Kami? Kami was a lot stronger than King Piccolo. I've heard people theorize about why this is. It could be because the "good" part of the Nameless Namekian was stronger than his "evil" part. Or maybe it's simply because King Piccolo was imprisoned for a long, long time while Kami was free to grow stronger.
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Sep 26, 2014 21:35
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Being up above the cloud layer allowed Kami to photosynthesize more effectively.
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Sep 26, 2014 22:15
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NikkolasKing posted:Kami was a lot stronger than King Piccolo. I've heard people theorize about why this is. It could be because the "good" part of the Nameless Namekian was stronger than his "evil" part. Or maybe it's simply because King Piccolo was imprisoned for a long, long time while Kami was free to grow stronger. Then why'd he let Piccolo gently caress poo poo up?
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Sep 27, 2014 00:52
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Wasn't there a plot point once that Piccolo and Kami share pain because they are halves of the same original? Ergo Kami and King Piccolo duking it out would end badly and the world would be without its Dragon Balls?
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Sep 27, 2014 01:06
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Kild posted:Then why'd he let Piccolo gently caress poo poo up? What was he supposed to do? Kill Piccolo? That would kill him too and leave Earth without a god/guardian.
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Sep 27, 2014 01:07
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Some Numbers posted:What was he supposed to do? Kill Piccolo? That would kill him too and leave Earth without a god/guardian. Put him in a newer rice cooker? what did his apathy do? He still would've died had Piccolo not reincarnated himself.
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Sep 27, 2014 01:53
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Kild posted:Put him in a newer rice cooker? what did his apathy do? He still would've died had Piccolo not reincarnated himself. Well, the Mafuba does kill the users, doesn't it?
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Sep 27, 2014 02:41
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He did try it at the end of Dragonball. Kami seems to have had a non-interference policy with Earth. Even when it was his fault, in the case of Piccolo Daimao and basically any destructive wish by the dragon balls. I assume training Goku changed his mind (he tried to pass the job off to him) and that resulted in his participation in the last DB tournament.
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Sep 27, 2014 03:42
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dipwood posted:He did try it at the end of Dragonball. I love that Kami wanted Goku to take his job. What a terrifying place the world would be.
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Sep 27, 2014 08:56
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It's not like Kami really did much anyways. Goku would probably just go "okay I'm God now", fly off, and everything proceeds as normal.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:03
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BlitzBlast posted:It's not like Kami really did much anyways. Goku would probably just go "okay I'm God now", fly off, and everything proceeds as normal. I always assumed that Kami did poo poo off-screen, like file reports or something.
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Sep 27, 2014 09:12
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Goku is, like, a million times cooler than Gohan you lunatics! I blame the bowl cut he got from Chichi for this being an opinion anyone has.
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Sep 27, 2014 11:15
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Goku is, like, a million times cooler than Gohan you lunatics! Look how wrong this scrub is.
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Sep 27, 2014 11:25
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12 year old me, who went from DB to DBZ, hated Gohan, because he took focus away from Goku. Today's me isn't too hot on him either, since I found him to an incredible whiny character, save for the Great Saiyaman/Highschool arc, which is easily my favorite in the entire series.
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Sep 27, 2014 12:06
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I also wasn't a huge fan of Gohan.
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Sep 27, 2014 15:15
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If Goku's so much cooler than Gohan then why doesn't he have a cute girlfriend?
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Sep 27, 2014 15:57
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Goku got a fiance by groping Chi-Chi's crotch. Gohan can't top that. Seriously though, Cell Saga Gohan > Kid Goku >>>>> Adult Goku/other versions of Gohan. Kid Goku was a fantastic protagonist but something horrible happened come "Z". I don't know what. Maybe his releasing a genocidal madman because he wants to fight them again, even after said madman had killed his friends and tried to blow up his planet. Idiot Heroes don't work in serious fiction. Dragonball was such a gag series that Goku being dumb was believable. But, as an adult, in the DARKER AND GRIMMER DBZ, Goku continuing to be a moron was just frustrating.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:21
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i for one love that goku
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Sep 27, 2014 16:34
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NikkolasKing posted:Goku got a fiance by groping Chi-Chi's crotch. Gohan can't top that. Noted serious fiction Dragonball Z.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:52
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NikkolasKing posted:Goku got a fiance by groping Chi-Chi's crotch. Gohan can't top that. yes that dark and grim series where they fight dancing aliens. Also, when the heroes fight a big pink monster made of playdough. The pink monsters turns the heroes into candy, yet the monster still gets beat up said candy. that poo poo was dark.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:54
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NikkolasKing posted:
Yeah this was kind of dumb considering Goku was ready to murder Tambourine for killing Krillin in the original series, but Vegeta gets a free pass even though he's responsible for the deaths of Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo.
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Sep 27, 2014 16:58
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Monaghan posted:yes that dark and grim series where they fight dancing aliens. Also, when the heroes fight a big pink monster made of playdough. The pink monsters turns the heroes into candy, yet the monster still gets beat up said candy. that poo poo was dark. The Majin Buu Saga is so popular with people because it was "a return to form" so to speak. The Cell Saga was almost entirely humorless, and felt more like a horror story in the beginning stages with the Androids and, at least in the anime, it ent into full-on horror mode when Cell showed up. I'll always remember the scene of him chasing that lady and her...daughter or sister or something. he even had the Jason/Michael thing of only walking at the running, terrified women yet always catching up with them. And of course the Frieza Saga was all about the genocide of the Namekians while our heroes pissed themselves, unable to do anything about the psychopathic alien doing it all. And as for the dancing aliens, I didn't realize I was supposed to laugh when Gohan got his neck broken. You know, the 4-year-old child. AshB posted:Yeah this was kind of dumb considering Goku was ready to murder Tambourine for killing Krillin in the original series, but Vegeta gets a free pass even though he's responsible for the deaths of Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo. Exactly. I believe firmly that Adult Goku's heart would pop like a hot potato in a fire if he was hit by the Devilmite Beam. He isn't "pure of heart" any longer.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:05
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Did I just hear someone talking poo poo about goku
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Sep 27, 2014 17:08
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Soulcleaver posted:Did I just hear someone talking poo poo about goku Goku basically lost to Raditz.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:12
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NikkolasKing posted:Exactly. I believe firmly that Adult Goku's heart would pop like a hot potato in a fire if he was hit by the Devilmite Beam. He isn't "pure of heart" any longer. Yes he is, he can use the Spirit Bomb.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:16
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Ah, glad i didn't hallucinate this detail:quote:In the movie Dragon Ball Z: Super Android 13!, Krillin says that Goku cannot gather the energy while in his Super Saiyan state. This is because the Super Saiyan transformation is inherently malicious and taints the heart and soul. Pinch of salt of course, it is the wiki.  Weird 'tho, I've never seen that movie. Guess its just one of the details that's apparent in DBZ but never outright stated.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:40
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AshB posted:Yeah this was kind of dumb considering Goku was ready to murder Tambourine for killing Krillin in the original series, but Vegeta gets a free pass even though he's responsible for the deaths of Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo. But Tambourine didn't have the promise of a sweet rematch.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:43
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Thyrork posted:Pinch of salt of course, it is the wiki. It's shown at the end too, where Goku makes a spirit bomb in regular form but turns into Super to push it.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:46
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Thyrork posted:Ah, glad i didn't hallucinate this detail: Yeah, that's another detail they basically dropped. Goku's first transformation was pretty awesome and he noticeable changes his personality. Kinda sad it never came up again.
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Sep 27, 2014 17:46
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ImpAtom posted:Yes he is, he can use the Spirit Bomb. I don't think the various "purity of heart" requirements in Dragon Ball all measure exactly the same thing. For example, Vegeta can use Super Saiyan, which requires righteous anger or something like that, but it would be very odd if Vegeta could survive the Devilmite Beam, which explicit requires you to be completely free from evil motivations.
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Sep 27, 2014 18:13
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Talk poo poo about Goku in DBZ all you want, but his arrival on Namek and quick disposal of the Ginyu Force is about my favorite part of the series. Then he gets knocked out of commission again in like 10 episodes.
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Sep 27, 2014 18:19
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facebook jihad posted:Talk poo poo about Goku in DBZ all you want, but his arrival on Namek and quick disposal of the Ginyu Force is about my favorite part of the series. Captain Ginyu was total bullshit, I can't believe he almost got Vegeta twice with his stupid body change.
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Sep 27, 2014 18:20
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facebook jihad posted:Talk poo poo about Goku in DBZ all you want, but his arrival on Namek and quick disposal of the Ginyu Force is about my favorite part of the series. My favorite are him showing of his raw power. The first transformation into a Super Sayajin, showing off after making SS his base state and when he transforms into SS3 the first time. The whole program, with yelling, earth shaking and his friends watching in awe. Hell, my rational, older part absolutely thinks that SS3 looks dumb as hell, but the emotional 12 year old part still thinks its the coolest loving thing ever!
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Sep 27, 2014 18:23
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Anyone else notice Krillian screaming in outrage at the newest DBM comic, or have i watched too much abridged? 
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Sep 27, 2014 18:48
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Prince Vegeta might survive this yet. That wound doesn't look quite as bad as it did at first.
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Sep 27, 2014 19:02
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A Gnarlacious Bro posted:Goku is, like, a million times cooler than Gohan you lunatics! it's not saying a lot really.
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Sep 27, 2014 19:40
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AshB posted:Yeah this was kind of dumb considering Goku was ready to murder Tambourine for killing Krillin in the original series, but Vegeta gets a free pass even though he's responsible for the deaths of Chaozu, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Piccolo. At that point Goku had died himself. He had seen that the afterlife was not that bad and he had come back to life. I could see it being hard to care about people dying after that. He still later get's pretty upset about Krillin's death on Namek though. Maybe Goku only likes Krillin.
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Sep 27, 2014 21:10
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Flippinlikebirds posted:At that point Goku had died himself. He had seen that the afterlife was not that bad and he had come back to life. I could see it being hard to care about people dying after that. He still later get's pretty upset about Krillin's death on Namek though. Maybe Goku only likes Krillin. At that point as far as Goku knew Piccolo was more or less going to die and the Dragon Balls were about to be gone for good. Krillin's death at that time was the closest death gets in this series to being very real and final.
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Sep 27, 2014 21:30
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Flippinlikebirds posted:At that point Goku had died himself. He had seen that the afterlife was not that bad and he had come back to life. I could see it being hard to care about people dying after that. He still later get's pretty upset about Krillin's death on Namek though. Maybe Goku only likes Krillin. Uh, Goku's first death wasn't until Raditz showed up at the beginning of DBZ. Krillin's death in Dragonball was the first death period.
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Sep 27, 2014 21:35
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