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Yeah I guess Kung Fu point negates the need for the Jump and Arm Points. I do hope he has access to a seventh normal form or additional Rumble forms since I just like form changing. I'm torn on Horn Point though. On one hand, I liked his old form with the big antlers and big Deer body. On the other, new Horn Point is my favorite post-time skip design and I kind of wish it was his normal form since it looks so cool and grown up. We need more Horn Point.
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How about Horn Kabuto form, where his antler become a slingshot for Usopp? Maybe Chopper could mix in Scope with that and help Usopp figure out weakpoints to snipe!
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Sep 23, 2014 02:18
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Chopper should get a Santa Point power where he can fly. 
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Sep 23, 2014 02:46
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Wrong thread.
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Sep 23, 2014 02:48
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Bobulus posted:Yes. From the same volume: This should be posted anytime people think Oda is some sort of foreshadowing god. He just likes to leave strings hanging to tie them to something at some later time.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:01
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I mean, he does heavily foreshadow things sometimes. And sometimes things slip by leaving plot holes that he doesn't notice. Frankly, I think Norland talking about dwarves, Sanji's double curly brows on the Den Den Mushi, Zeff calling the Grand Line "a paradise", and other things are excellent examples of very nice foreshadowing. There are clearly elements Oda has planned out years or even more than a decade in advance, and he likes to hint at them for people to find later. Of course, he's not some infallible writing god who never makes an error and sometimes he lets plot holes through.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:19
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Compared to Kishimoto, he looks completely infallible.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:33
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I think the biggest plot hole in One Piece is that the degree of communication technology we see (most notably global newspaper delivery) probably wasn't originally intended to be part of the setting, leading to a few odd scenes where people talk about things like Devil Fruits and Mihawk-level swordsmanship skeptically when they should be reading about people like Whitebeard in the papers (although the most egregious example of this was anime-only) and going from even Nami and Robin not knowing what Dials were to Tone Dials being a globally popular consumer good in just a couple years.
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Sep 25, 2014 05:56
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Silver2195 posted:and going from even Nami and Robin not knowing what Dials were to Tone Dials being a globally popular consumer good in just a couple years. Are you referring to Brook selling his music on tone dials? He could've personally gotten trading going with the sky islands for that. They seemed pretty rare pre-timeskip.
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Sep 25, 2014 06:07
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The fact the guerrilla warfare and rule by lightning tyrant stopped around the time Dials started coming into the world below is probably not a coincidence.
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I'd go ahead and attribute it to the fact that Bellamy said something about rapaciously pillaging the skylands for their stuffs.
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Sep 25, 2014 06:36
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I take it that there is a break this week. Or something of the sort.
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Spanish Matlock posted:I'd go ahead and attribute it to the fact that Bellamy said something about rapaciously pillaging the skylands for their stuffs. I'm still convinced that when he showed up, the people there were like DO YOU KNOW STRAWHAT? HE FORGOT THIS GOLDEN PILLAR. PLEASE TAKE IT WITH YOU AND GIVE IT TO HIM.
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Why do I feel like it was heavily hinted that exactly that happened? I thought we were told somewhere that Binami was just acting tough and that the people on Shandia just give poo poo to people for free now. Also, re: Skypiea from before, it actually makes a lot of sense that dials would become a lot more popular. They obviously existed in some form before, but they've had the first two years in a long time that visitors have been welcomed to Skypiea to spread. You've got to figure not many people would pay Amazon's fee considering it's optional and expensive, and the priests of Enel took joy in murdering people, so basically everyone who got up there (remember, there are multiple ways other than the Knock-Up Stream) probably died unless they were strong enough to escape the priests. Now Amazon's not even running the gate anymore. Hell, there's probably a welcome committee with free dials for everyone.
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Advice posted:Why do I feel like it was heavily hinted that exactly that happened? I thought we were told somewhere that Binami was just acting tough and that the people on Shandia just give poo poo to people for free now. I don't recall it being stated outright, but when Bellamy showed up again that was one of the prevailing theories, and I guess it just got ingrained in the minds of some people? It's something that could have happened. I mean, the Barty being Luffy's fan theory worked out, so why not this one?
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Silver2195 posted:people talk about things like Devil Fruits and Mihawk-level swordsmanship skeptically
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:I don't recall it being stated outright, but when Bellamy showed up again that was one of the prevailing theories, and I guess it just got ingrained in the minds of some people? It's something that could have happened. I mean, the Barty being Luffy's fan theory worked out, so why not this one? It also helps that we've seen Skypeia post timeskip and it was A-Okay, and Oda would have used the cover page to hint otherwise if Bellamy actually did something. Plus, dude got one-shot by Luffy anyway, he would have been hopelessly outmatched.
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Advice posted:Why do I feel like it was heavily hinted that exactly that happened? I thought we were told somewhere that Binami was just acting tough and that the people on Shandia just give poo poo to people for free now. Bellamy wasn't anywhere near Luffy, Zoro, or Sanji's level so the altitude would have been super hard on him. He would have been panting like a hyena and unable to do anything other than accept the vast riches loaded onto his boat by the natives.
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Gyges posted:Bellamy wasn't anywhere near Luffy, Zoro, or Sanji's level so the altitude would have been super hard on him. He would have been panting like a dachshund and unable to do anything other than accept the vast riches loaded onto his boat by the natives.
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Advice posted:I mean, he does heavily foreshadow things sometimes. And sometimes things slip by leaving plot holes that he doesn't notice. Frankly, I think Norland talking about dwarves, Sanji's double curly brows on the Den Den Mushi, Zeff calling the Grand Line "a paradise", and other things are excellent examples of very nice foreshadowing. There are clearly elements Oda has planned out years or even more than a decade in advance, and he likes to hint at them for people to find later. Of course, he's not some infallible writing god who never makes an error and sometimes he lets plot holes through. There's something to be said for letting a thread hang, and going back to it later and making good use of it. A lot of other writers can't do this well, but Oda is really good at executing on little asides and fleshing them out into plot points later. I'm not totally convinced he has everything planned out ahead of time, but that's a remarkable skill in its own right. Most shonen series seem to just give up on writing and throw things into endless tournament fights, it's nice One Piece has managed to avoid this trap.
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Space-Bird posted:There's something to be said for letting a thread hang, and going back to it later and making good use of it. A lot of other writers can't do this well, but Oda is really good at executing on little asides and fleshing them out into plot points later. I'm not totally convinced he has everything planned out ahead of time, but that's a remarkable skill in its own right. Most shonen series seem to just give up on writing and throw things into endless tournament fights, it's nice One Piece has managed to avoid this trap. I think it helps a lot that there is already an established route and end goal, the Grand Line and One Piece. Each island we encounter is already a mini tournament arc in disguise (or not) but because there are likely to be lots of them, Oda keeps them (relatively) short otherwise we will be stuck at each island forever. Plot points he can't resolve in one island can be integrated into later islands. Also he can easily revisit old characters since they can all sail along the Grand Line as well..
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As the others have said, Oda isn't infallible but he does plan ahead. There's a clear ending he has set in mind and designs like Hancock and Brooke have been around years before the characters were introduced. We've also yet to see the 'eye patch' pirate as well as Vegapunk but we know that they've existed as characters for a long time now. He just has a bunch of really cool ideas and designs in his head and he is a good enough story teller to weave them all in.
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alkanphel posted:I think it helps a lot that there is already an established route and end goal, the Grand Line and One Piece. Each island we encounter is already a mini tournament arc in disguise (or not) but because there are likely to be lots of them, Oda keeps them (relatively) short otherwise we will be stuck at each island forever. Plot points he can't resolve in one island can be integrated into later islands. Also he can easily revisit old characters since they can all sail along the Grand Line as well.. Pretty much this. In general, because the story isn't overall about defeating villain X, it means it can and often will move quickly on to the new island and new cast, which also means that various side plots and such are less likely to be tied to one specific group or foe, unless they can be brought back into the story in a good way. Don't want to include them just yet? Just have a lack of reason for the matter to be brought up (example: No mention of Buggy in Alabasta because why the hell would he be there; returns far later on anyway) and it'll pass by fine, a simple solution that makes sense. It also means that if there was something that had dragged down or diverted the attention of things for an extended time, well it can be swept aside at the new island in most cases.
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Looks like the One Piece dub is finally in Thriller Bark. So here's a little Bink's in English.
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Gyges posted:Looks like the One Piece dub is finally in Thriller Bark. So here's a little Bink's in English. Sounds pretty good actually. Honestly I never cared much for hearing Brook's sing, and I think it's because subtitled songs just don't work as well as subtitled speeches.
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Gyges posted:Looks like the One Piece dub is finally in Thriller Bark. So here's a little Bink's in English. quote:I know what you mean. I hear grown adults talking about this stupid Japanese poo poo and I can't hep but feel they're somehow hosed in the head. I mean it's a loving cartoon! Why is it that just because it comes from the Orient it's somehow acceptable for adults to obsess over them? This is a stupid horseshit fad. All of you cartoon loving asshats need to grow up. Join the Army or something. i hope sa never dies so i dont have to interact with the rest of the internet jesus loving christ what the hell
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-09-29/one-piece-spinoff-manga-series-to-start-in-december/.79332 the gently caress is this
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Kild posted:the gently caress is this Oda's cause of death in a year.
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Kild posted:http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-09-29/one-piece-spinoff-manga-series-to-start-in-december/.79332 I'm pretty sure Saikyo Jump is the Jump where all the chibi-manga are from like Springtime of Youth and the upcoming Sasuke adventures. I assume the same deal with One Piece.
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Allarion posted:I'm pretty sure Saikyo Jump is the Jump where all the chibi-manga are from like Springtime of Youth and the upcoming Sasuke adventures. I assume the same deal with One Piece. I can't really see the point of a springtime of youth type spinoff since One Piece is so comedic already unless it's all those mini "mafia Strawhats" things.
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Prison Warden posted:I can't really see the point of a springtime of youth type spinoff since One Piece is so comedic already unless it's all those mini "mafia Strawhats" things. Didn't they already do a Springtime of Youth thing based around Chopper but it was set in the real world?
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Gotta be better than the Chopperman spinoff that took approximately three pages to completely miss the point of what makes One Piece fun.
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Prison Warden posted:I can't really see the point
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Best case scenario it's a more slice of life everyday adventure thing with the crew and we can get a lot of character interaction we haven't really gotten since the time skip.
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Obviously the statement that it's about "Luffy and the Straw Hats" is to keep us off the scent of the real protagonists: The Fake Hats
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Obviously the statement that it's about "Luffy and the Straw Hats" is to keep us off the scent of the real protagonists: The Fake Hats
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Bisse posted:Oh god now I want a 'Springtime of Youth' kind of thing about the fakehats. They're all dead.
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Waffleman_ posted:They're all dead. So is Neji but he's still a main character in Springtime of Youth.
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