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Cerrone's really tall for the division but it seems like Alvarez is still a little shorter than the rest and could still do to go down to featherweight. I don't know enough about him or his style to know if he'd have any success there though.
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Eddie is listed at 5'8", which is on the shorter end for 155 but isn't really super out of the ordinary. He fights in a bit of a crouch though, and Cerrone who is like 6'1" and fights tall made it look even worse. The whole fight was based on whether Eddie could get on the inside, because if he couldn't he was gonna get torn up from range. Within the first minute he tried to come in and got hit with that stepping knee Cerrone likes and from then on he was a bit hesitant to come in. I think part of the reason he had that crazy flurry in the first was because he managed to get inside but didn't know how many opportunities he was going to get so he tried to do as much damage as he could. By the second Cerrone had established his kicks and range completely and Eddie got picked apart.
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Lerius posted:I really like the Semmy Schilt comparison for Cerrone. Same. This evolution from Cerrone helps negate how hittable his brain is and turns him into a pretty seriously difficult fight for anyone.
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If Eddie hadn't spent the entire fight eating leg kicks while attempting to catch them and had checked them instead he might have been able to win. His movement was completely hosed by the third.
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Dangersim posted:Not really, he's just gorilla strong Eh being neutralized by a former Olympian doesn't indicate that his wrestling is subpar or average. Yoel wasn't able to keep Kennedy down for long either (until he broke Kennedy's brain).
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Sep 29, 2014 00:24
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Also most good wrestlers are gorilla strong.
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origami posted:Eh being neutralized by a former Olympian doesn't indicate that his wrestling is subpar or average. Yoel wasn't able to keep Kennedy down for long either (until he broke Kennedy's brain). Kennedy wasn't able to do much with Jacare or Rockhold either. Not to say that he's not a good wrestler, but he's not exceptional for the division he's in.
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Sep 29, 2014 00:32
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His takedowns are actually pretty mediocre but his top control is really good. He's basically a giant, white, whiny Crusher.
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NippleFloss posted:Kennedy wasn't able to do much with Jacare or Rockhold either. Not to say that he's not a good wrestler, but he's not exceptional for the division he's in. And people used to argue (wrongly) that Anderson Silva was only good because that division didn't have good wrestlers. Things change fast.
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origami posted:Eh being neutralized by a former Olympian doesn't indicate that his wrestling is subpar or average. Yoel wasn't able to keep Kennedy down for long either (until he broke Kennedy's brain). He's not a bad wrestler or wrestling deficient. He's not exceptional though. Weidman's wrestling is exceptional.
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origami posted:Uh Kennedy's a pretty exceptional wrestler. lol what
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fatherdog posted:lol what well he shot on a bunch of brown guys so I can see where the confusion is.
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fatherdog posted:lol what Folks have brought up decent points indicating that I'm not correct on this but watching him grind out Bisping (in admittedly boring fashion) for five rounds after Bisping kept Chael standing for three rounds was impressive to me. Nullifying Roger even though Roger had his back for the first round. He's shown he can bully fighters down off the fence and he managed to get Yoel down albeit briefly. Other folks that know better than me seem to think differently though.
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Kennedy has a good top game but he's far from an exceptional wrestler. Fortunately he makes it up with tenacity and cardio.
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origami posted:Folks have brought up decent points indicating that I'm not correct on this Just look at the number of trolls who came out of the woodwork to attack me because my opinion happens to be different from theirs. God forbid! The culture of elitism that exists within the MMA fan base is nothing short of baffling. I can think of three separate occasions when I almost came to trading blows with some drunk know-it-all who thinks his opinions have more value because he trains jiu-jitsu.  It's like they can't handle the concept of two people having different opinions. I may not "train" mixed martial arts, but I've seen enough matches and read enough articles and studied fight footage to know what I'm talking about.
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Fortunately the number of nutters that come out of the woodwork every time there's a GDT means my posting will go on safe and virtually unnoticed
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Bioshuffle posted:Just look at the number of trolls who came out of the woodwork to attack me because my opinion happens to be different from theirs. God forbid! Speaking of trolls, this an excellently crafted troll, I almost fell for it.
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Pesky hivemind buzzing around my poop opinions
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Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand?
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Robert Analog posted:Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand? He was trying for another OTN bonus
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Bioshuffle posted:Just look at the number of trolls who came out of the woodwork to attack me because my opinion happens to be different from theirs. God forbid! Agreed
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Robert Analog posted:Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand? Who knows? Maybe he just felt like it.
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Bioshuffle posted:Just look at the number of trolls who came out of the woodwork to attack me because my opinion happens to be different from theirs. God forbid! congrats on watching lots of youtube, you have earned your gold belt in grappling now
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Robert Analog posted:Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand? The only thing I can think of is that he wasn't 100% sure he'd won the round, and he knew he'd lost the first and won the second, so he wanted to spend the last minute in dominant position and guarantee the decision. He may not have realized that Alvarez was basically incapable of putting weight on his leg. It wasn't a good decision, but that's the best logic I can come up with. And there's no Submission of the Night anymore is there? So I don't think it's the bonus money.
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Robert Analog posted:Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand? I think he said he was tired in the post-conf
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Robert Analog posted:Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand? whatever jackson tells him to do, he does the opposite. it's why he's such a swell fighter
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Cerrone won the second though? You know he won the fight right?
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Novum posted:Pesky hivemind buzzing around my poop opinions I am not the only one who thinks that John McCarthy hosed up, nor am I the only one to think that Tim Kennedy should have been given the victory.    I understand some of you hate Tim Kennedy and it makes you happy to see him get screwed out of a win, but that does not invalidate my opinion.
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I swear that's the second time Bisping has referred to him as 'Tom'
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Bioshuffle posted:I understand some of you hate Tim Kennedy and it makes you happy to see him get screwed out of a win, but that does not invalidate my opinion. no, the being a big ol' dorkus malorkus does that
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Reads book Hmmm yes I am a master of unarmed combat
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Bioshuffle posted:Just look at the number of trolls who came out of the woodwork to attack me because my opinion happens to be different from theirs. God forbid! It's a good thing they didn't come to blows, their jiu jitsu would have been useless against a guy who visits bloodyelbow.com.
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I may not have ever shot a double or thrown a punch but I read a Jack Slack article god damnit
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I'm not here to defend myself against idiot trolls who can't even do a good job. I'm here to talk about MMA. Trolls, get over yourself and get a life. I was very impressed with Cat Zingano's performance. I think she'll be a real credible threat against Ronda Rousey, but Rousey's striking game has been improving, so I'm looking forward to the match up. I'm also looking forward to Cruz's match up against Dillshaw. Both have awesome footwork so it'll be interesting to see who comes out on top. edit: fixed Typo Bioshuffle fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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We're not trolling we're making fun of you.
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Bioshuffle posted:The culture of elitism that exists within the MMA fan base is nothing short of baffling. I can think of three separate occasions when I almost came to trading blows with some drunk know-it-all who thinks his opinions have more value because he trains jiu-jitsu. yeah you almost got into a fist fight with a bjj player sounds like a real life story
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I like the new guy and encourage more people to post here.
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Robert Analog posted:Why did Cerrone take it to the ground in the 3rd? Did he lay on him because he couldn't stand? Why didn't Cerrone follow Nate to the ground the 5 or 6 times he managed to knock him off his feet with leg kicks? The world will never know.
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Donald Cerrone is a mystery wrapped in an enigma, wrapped in a beer koozie.
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