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| A wait at the DMV that ends with a surly attendant telling you that you don't have the right documents |
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I wanted wheez pics in a thread I made, and the universe finally delivers.
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 UT is attempting to do this vs UF this weekend. This picture is a photoshop but I can't wait to see it for real.
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Sep 30, 2014 05:44
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Why is that one section red?
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Sep 30, 2014 05:50
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Visitors section?
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Sep 30, 2014 05:51
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It's how you know the camera's on
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Sep 30, 2014 05:53
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I like to think you mean only fielding ten guys on offense
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Sep 30, 2014 05:57
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Honestly I didn't even notice it until you pointed it out. But yeah that's the visitors section. Not sure why it's red though, we're playing Florida.
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Sep 30, 2014 06:04
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Statement from Dave Brandon regarding student-athlete health and welfare Ultimate responsibility for the health and safety of our student-athletes resides with each team’s coach and with me, as the Director of Athletics. We are committed to continuously improving our procedures to better protect the health and welfare of our student-athletes. I have had numerous meetings since Sunday morning to thoroughly review the situation that occurred at Saturday’s football game regarding student-athlete Shane Morris. I have met with those who were directly involved and who were responsible for managing Shane’s care and determining his medical fitness for participation. In my judgment, there was a serious lack of communication that led to confusion on the sideline. Unfortunately, this confusion created a circumstance that was not in the best interest of one of our student-athletes. I sincerely apologize for the mistakes that were made. We have to learn from this situation, and moving forward, we will make important changes so we can fully live up to our shared goal of putting student-athlete safety first. I have worked with Darryl Conway, my Associate Athletic Director for Student-Athlete Health and Welfare, to develop a detailed accounting of the events that occurred. Darryl is the person who oversees all athletic training personnel and serves as the liaison to the physicians we work with through the University of Michigan Health System and University Health Services. It is important to note that our athletic trainers and physicians working with Michigan Athletics have the unchallengeable authority to remove student-athletes from the field of play. Michigan Athletics has numerous medical professionals at every football competition including certified athletic trainers and several physicians from various relevant specialties. I, along with Darryl and our administrative and medical teams, have spent much of the last two days carefully reviewing the situation regarding Shane Morris. We now understand that, despite having the right people on the sidelines assessing our student-athletes’ well being, the systems we had in place were inadequate to handle this unique and complex situation properly. With his permission, I can share that Shane Morris suffered an ankle injury during the third quarter of Saturday’s game. He was evaluated for that injury by an orthopedic surgeon and an athletic trainer several times during the game. With each of these evaluations it was determined that his ankle injury did not prevent him from playing. In the fourth quarter, Shane took a significant hit and stumbled after getting up. From the field level and without the benefit of replays, medical and coaching staffs did not see the hit. Because they did not see the hit, the athletic training staff believed Shane stumbled because of his ankle injury. The team neurologist, watching from further down the field, also did not see the hit. However, the neurologist, with expertise in detecting signs of concussion, saw Shane stumble and determined he needed to head down the sideline to evaluate Shane. Shane came off the field after the following play and was reassessed by the head athletic trainer for the ankle injury. Since the athletic trainer had not seen the hit to the chin and was not aware that a neurological evaluation was necessary, he cleared Shane for one additional play. The neurologist and other team physicians were not aware that Shane was being asked to return to the field, and Shane left the bench when he heard his name called and went back into the game. Under these circumstances, a player should not be allowed to re-enter the game before being cleared by the team physician. This clearly identifies the need for improvements in our sideline and communication processes. Following the game, a comprehensive concussion evaluation was completed and Shane has been evaluated twice since the game. As of Sunday, Shane was diagnosed with a probable, mild concussion, and a high ankle sprain. That probable concussion diagnosis was not at all clear on the field on Saturday or in the examination that was conducted post-game. Unfortunately, there was inadequate communication between our physicians and medical staff and Coach Hoke was not provided the updated diagnosis before making a public statement on Monday. This is another mistake that cannot occur again. Going forward, we have identified two changes in our procedures that we will implement immediately: We will have an athletic medicine professional in the press box or video booth to ensure that someone will have a bird’s eye view of the on-field action, have television replay available and have the ability to communicate with medical personnel on the sidelines. We are also examining how to reinforce our sideline communication processes and how decisions will be made in order to make sure that information regarding student-athlete availability to participate is communicated effectively amongst the medical team and to our coaches. We have learned from this experience, and will continue to improve ways to keep our student-athletes’ health and safety our number one priority. Linguica fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 06:12
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Oh god please tell me that improving communication on the sideline means making Brady Hoke wear a headset. That would be a funny turn of events until Hoke's eventual firing.
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Sep 30, 2014 06:16
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"the systems we had in place were inadequate to handle this unique and complex situation properly." Translation: we were totally unprepared for the exact injury that is literally the reason for a neurologist to be present. "the neurologist, with expertise in detecting signs of concussion, saw Shane stumble and determined he needed to head down the sideline to evaluate Shane." Translation: the neurologist was not able to make it all the way down the sideline in like the 45 seconds of time he had, and communicate to anyone the problem, for some unexplained reason. "Following the game, a comprehensive concussion evaluation was completed and Shane has been evaluated twice since the game. As of Sunday, Shane was diagnosed with a probable, mild concussion" Translation: Morris was diagnosed with a concussion on Saturday. "Unfortunately, there was inadequate communication between our physicians and medical staff and Coach Hoke was not provided the updated diagnosis before making a public statement on Monday." Translation: Hoke is dead meat, and I am willing to throw him under the bus in an effort to save my own sorry rear end. "We have learned from this experience, and will continue to improve ways to keep our student-athletes’ health and safety our number one priority." Translation: Look, we're not malicious, we're just staggeringly incompetent 
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Sep 30, 2014 06:36
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Mack Brown can't go to SMU because it's his destiny to return to North Carolina and thus restore that program to the respectability it enjoyed while he was there to begin with. (I had this stray thought a few days ago and it turns out some UNC boards think this should actually happen. I've held a grudge about his departure all these years, so I guess I can't really talk.) RumbleFish fucked around with this message at 06:42 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 06:39
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Linguica posted:"the systems we had in place were inadequate to handle this unique and complex situation properly." And despite all of this it's still so much better than Hoke's comment.
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Sep 30, 2014 06:45
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Grittybeard posted:And despite all of this it's still so much better than Hoke's comment.
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Sep 30, 2014 06:54
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That entire idiotic statement has fatigued me on this process. gently caress both of them, and get them the gently caress out of here. How is he going to loving hear if his players are hurt if he doesn't wear a loving headset, the giant loving lummox?
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Sep 30, 2014 07:01
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I guess it's "Not my job, I don't care" vs "I'm forced to care but really don't". Yeah fire everyone.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:02
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Linguica posted:It's really not. It's better wording with the same results, which is that Shane Morris has a serious concussion. I am also tired of this, which just popped up on my feed without me asking: @ClayTravisBGID Let’s get real, if Michigan’s 5-0 this concussion issue gets zero attention. This is about Hoke stinking as a coach. Even though I know dude sucks, this is a terrible parroting of an opinion especially when you follow it up with: @ClayTravisBGID Hoke lied about his kicker getting kicked off the team for sexual assault and hardly anyone blinked. Not really. One of these happened in front of a national TV audience, the other didn't. They're both disgusting acts and I doubt that act goes unnoticed now.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:04
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Clay Travis is a really, REALLY stupid person.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:07
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I love that they keep pretending that this is a complicated issue. Your quarterback was visibly limping, took a hit to the helmet, could barely walk for a bit, and was still visibly limping as he jogged off the field after you replaced him and then made him go back in. Oh but he hadn't gone through the full protocol so there was obviously no way to tell that he was really injured. Oh and you had two timeouts that you could've used at any time instead of just standing on the sidelines and watching the play. That's by far the biggest thing for me that they're conveniently not mentioning. Even IF all the bullshit about them not communicating right and nobody noticing that the loving kid could barely walk and accidentally telling him to go out there was true, the bottom line is that everyone saw him go back into the game, and then proceeded to watch, horrified, as he was allowed to run a play because Hoke decided to not call a timeout. Which he could have done at any point during the 15-20 seconds between the time the cameras showed him looking at his players and the refs and the time the ball was actually snapped. Nothing they can say excuses that.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:08
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Neodoomium posted:Clay Travis is a really, REALLY stupid person. I know and it is late and this situation is just bad from all angles.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:17
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That's it. The second I have disposable income I am creating the Physicians for Safe Football that will put forth a variety of proposals and lobby congress or whoever will listen to implement rules to make football actually safer rather than cosmetically safer. I have already tossed out a few ideas, but first and foremost will me independent sideline medical officials, who go through similar screening to referees. They will have the ability to take a helmet away from a player at any time and it will not be released until their say so. That will avoid the whole coach plausible denial that currently exists. The NCAA and the NFL have been terrible on these issues. Without change, someone will die on the field and that will be the end of football. If things continue the way they do now, it will happen in 5 years, although I am still refining the numbers.
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Sep 30, 2014 07:17
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Fire everyone from top to bottom in Michigan's football program; this is loving disgusting.
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Sep 30, 2014 08:17
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Linguica posted:It's really not.  well I guess I'm sending the guy who a couple minutes ago took a helmet-to-helmet hit back onto the field. Nothing at all about the first play, where practically everyone watching the game could tell there was something wrong with Shane Morris.It's still a desperate attempt at damage control that doesn't commit to any substantive changes or consequences, but as always the first step in solving a problem is admitting you have one.
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Sep 30, 2014 10:36
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swickles posted:The NCAA and the NFL have been terrible on these issues. Without change, someone will die on the field and that will be the end of football. If things continue the way they do now, it will happen in 5 years, although I am still refining the numbers. Well it wouldn't be the first time. Before the forward pass was implemented and the Flying V was still a thing, kids used to die pretty regularly and even that didn't kill the sport.
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Sep 30, 2014 11:12
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VDay posted:Don't worry, wishing that Mike Leach was your team's coach is a perfectly reasonable emotion to have at all times. Hell, I was disappointed when WSU scooped him up before our coaching search even started and we ended up going with some rear end in a top hat named Jim Mora instead. I would have loved to see Mike Leach at Georgia Tech. Instead, we got Paul Johnson. The coach we deserve.
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Sep 30, 2014 12:26
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^^^ I would have been so torn if he ended up at GT. Shappa posted:If I was a doctor, I would absolutely turn down a one off (or two, or five) "trip for the day" to fill that role. Refs are pretty public on TV throughout the game and make horrible calls all the time that affect the outcome. They are all still alive. I don't see how this would be any different. Sure, not every doctor in the US would do it but there is this thing called money and usually when you pay someone enough of it they will work for you. Crazy idea, I know.
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Sep 30, 2014 12:46
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An economist wrote a pretty interesting guest column on Deadspin's "Regressing" site, addressing the idea of commercialism driving away Michigan fans http://regressing.deadspin.com/michigans-problem-isnt-commercialism-michigans-problem-1639616721 I don't know how much I buy the Stanford parallel, but there's some interesting stuff here
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Sep 30, 2014 12:58
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I think he intends the Stanford example to serve as an example of higher prices not necessarily being correlated with lower attendance. If the demand of attendance does not change, then yes, an increase in price would create a surplus in the market (UM can't sell all of the seats) or eliminate the excess demand that existed (depends on where you are starting relative to equilibrium). However, when there is a shift in demand, you can't use prices as a motivating factor because price changes are the result of changing incentives from demand moving.
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Sep 30, 2014 13:38
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DJExile posted:An economist wrote a pretty interesting guest column on Deadspin's "Regressing" site, addressing the idea of commercialism driving away Michigan fans People have been pointing that out for a while, but Michigan Men assure us that they are not swayed by bad football. They are swayed only by the playing of Turn Down for What and by not being allowed to bring in picnic baskets.
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Sep 30, 2014 13:43
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Thoguh posted:People have been pointing that out for a while, but Michigan Men assure us that they are not swayed by bad football. They are swayed only by the playing of Turn Down for What and by not being allowed to bring in picnic baskets. Even so with how dedicated they are to Michigan Football, you would assume that their demand is inelastic (with how they talk) so large changes in price have little effect on the quantity demanded. I guess they are just a bunch of smoke and mirrors after all. They're just like everyone else.
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Sep 30, 2014 13:50
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Brian Cook offered some insight on this last night via Twitter: ---------- mgoblog @mgoblog · This statement took so long because the medical staff refused to lie. mgoblog @mgoblog This was a day-long fistfight over whether and how Michigan would admit they played a concussed player. mgoblog @mgoblog And for loving once the real Michigan Men won. ----------- He knows a lot about the process that went into this, but can't say much without burning sources. Needless to say, he remains incandescently pissed at Brandon and Hoke.
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Sep 30, 2014 14:14
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wheez the roux posted:so my We Want Bama sign at wazzu/oregon? That's loving amazing... Edit: Would it be too terribly inappropriate to start a faux Shane Morris twitter and literally do nothing but tweet out nonsensical statements and complain of headaches? Scarf fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 14:28
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Deteriorata posted:Brian Cook offered some insight on this last night via Twitter: That's loving great. I'd love to hear from the trainers/doctors that were on the sidelines, although I don't know if they'd be required to stay quiet because of HIPAA laws or something. Are the players officially considered patients of team doctors/trainers? I saw Morris waived his privacy or somesuch, but have always wondered how that worked.
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Sep 30, 2014 14:30
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DJExile posted:An economist wrote a pretty interesting guest column on Deadspin's "Regressing" site, addressing the idea of commercialism driving away Michigan fans He actually makes the same point we've been making, but doesn't realize it. The quality of the team and the over-the-top corporatism are two independent variables which are not related to each other. People would be much more willing to tolerate the corporatism poo poo if the team was better, no question. But the team isn't better. So doing all the corporatism stuff while the team is bad is a dumb thing to do that drives fans away. If Brandon wanted to do his maximizing revenues poo poo, he needed to wait until the team was consistently good so that people would be more willing to tolerate it. The critical issue that the author ignores is that Michigan fans' response to excessive corporatism and a bad stadium environment with a good team would be to lobby to have the AD replaced rather than not going to the games. The comparison to Stanford is really dumb, as they've had trouble filling their stadium for years, good team or not. Comparing Michigan to Notre Dame during their string of bad teams would have been much more enlightening. All in all, a typically shallow and badly reasoned Deadspin article. Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 14:43 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 14:38
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Apparently the refs hosed up the spot in Georgia's final drive by about 4 yards. Sorry Vols.
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Sep 30, 2014 14:41
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Welp. Muschamp: No plan to play 2 QBs http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20140929/ARTICLES/140929625?tc=cr Enjoy your victory Tennessee.
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Sep 30, 2014 14:48
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Is it at Tennessee? Cuz I could totally see Neyland taking Driskel's knee or ankle out and costing Tennessee the game
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Sep 30, 2014 14:50
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"Driskel will make UF fans proud" I think he said yesterday
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Sep 30, 2014 15:04
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Deteriorata posted:All in all, a typically shallow and badly reasoned Deadspin article. Similar to your posts on the issue.
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Sep 30, 2014 15:07
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ACoolT5 posted:Well it wouldn't be the first time. Before the forward pass was implemented and the Flying V was still a thing, kids used to die pretty regularly and even that didn't kill the sport. It very nearly did. The president had to step in and get them to change the rules to keep the game alive.
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Board of Regents to meet today regarding "Concussion-gate" http://j.mp/1xx2xE6 http://j.mp/1mLkc7p #MGoBoard really? that's the name we're going with?
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