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Look, multiple desktops. Finally. Welcome to the 21st century!
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 Multiple desktops/Expose confirmed. Handy, I suppose, but I'll use it exactly how often I did on other OSes that have it, which is never. [Edit: No one will ever convince me that multiple desktops are any better for multitasking/power users than Alt+Tab is. ...I mean, I guess it's a clever way to hide the fact that you're looking at porn at work?] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 18:28 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 18:26
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lelandjs posted:Multiple desktops/Expose confirmed. Handy, I suppose, but I'll use it exactly how often I did on other OSes that have it, which is never. It's actually the killer feature for me in the Windows vs. OSX argument. Very happy to see it.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:27
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Oh god, that Tom Warren posted that they hosed with the command prompt. --edit: Wat? CTRL+V? That's it?
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Sep 30, 2014 18:30
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Combat Pretzel posted:Jesus, they announced the name. Great, so we'll be running IE11 on Win10 No chance for confusion at the helpdesk.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:30
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Combat Pretzel posted:Oh god, that Tom Warren posted that they hosed with the command prompt. Don't worry, they just felt it was worth highlighting the fact that you can copy a directory path into a command prompt.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:31
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The Dave posted:If it knows you're on a desktop. Once they start talking tablets / touch it will look a lot like 8. Which makes sense. Well I mean the idea with 8 was to push people into this new, simplified overview that basically functions like a dashboard, and make them like it. And the desktop was there but only grudgingly. I remember that set of posts by a Windows dev saying that the idea was to really wean the majority of people off the desktop, and once that was done they could really start implementing power user features on the desktop since the average person wouldn't ever need to go there. So far this looks like they're walking back from the whole thing entirely, and putting all desktop machines right back where they were before Nintendo Kid posted:Well basically everything they did with the 8 interface was trash that conflicted with ease of use on non touchscreen devices, so yes? But the kernel and all that has all the improvements made in Windows 8 and more. Sure but I'm only talking about the UI here, just interesting that they seem to be doing a complete u-turn on it instead of attempting to refine it
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Sep 30, 2014 18:33
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Please talk about all the Windows Media Center updates
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Sep 30, 2014 18:34
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lelandjs posted:
If you're working on 3 or 4 different projects at once it's a good way to keep the resources for each project organized.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:34
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baka kaba posted:Sure but I'm only talking about the UI here, just interesting that they seem to be doing a complete u-turn on it instead of attempting to refine it They are refining it, but on touch devices. It's straight up an interface designed around direct touch, so that makes sense. There's simply no way to "refine" the metro/modern/whatever the current trademark is UI to be better for non-direct-touch, without compromising things that make it good for direct touch or making the system confusing by inconsistencies between desktop mode and "regular" metro mode and "refinded for mouse metro" mode or wahtever you'd call it.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:37
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:If you're working on 3 or 4 different projects at once it's a good way to keep the resources for each project organized. Exactly. It's a godsend compared to stacking windows upon windows upon windows.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:38
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Aaaand the Verge's livestream dies right when they get to the part I'm interested in: how Windows 8.1+1.9 handles hybrid devices (I own two). [Edit:   ][Edit 2: Okay, great, my 15.6" touchscreen laptop gives me a menu if I click the start button and a screen if I touch it. What happens when I use a stylus though?] [Edit 3: Ships mid 2015, preview.windows.com will have a preview build available to download... soonish?] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 18:38
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quote:Q: Can you talk about the name? Seems weird going from Windows 8 to Windows 10. lelandjs posted:[Edit 3: Ships mid 2015, preview.windows.com will have a preview build available to download... soonish?] --edit: Belfiore just claimed that it's finally one codebase for desktop and phone. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 18:44
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I don't know if this has been suggested elsewhere, but here's my attempt to rationalize the Windows 10 name. Internally, Vista through 8.1 have been versions 6.0 through 6.3, so retroactively treating them as 6 through 9 would make the new release Windows 10. Still silly, but it's something.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:46
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Combat Pretzel posted:Better be the bee's knees! Thanks, missed that. So basically all this was was confirmation of what the leaks already demonstrated? Figures, I guess. And I don't understand why Windows 10. A decently major point of this was demonstrating how there is gonna be one build that runs on everything... why just not call it Windows?
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Sep 30, 2014 18:47
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Why even try to rationalize the name? No one cares as long as it's not Windows One
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Sep 30, 2014 18:47
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Combat Pretzel posted:Belfiore just claimed that it's finally one codebase for desktop and phone. Hopefully that isn't bullshit and leads to a scenario a la iPhone/iPad universal app. The kind of "universal" app you have with Windows and Windows Phone is merely in source code only. It's still not a single binary that runs everywhere. --edit: They just pretended that they never have run longwinded betas with active tester participation. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 18:50
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I think Win10 looks pretty cool, and I don't give a poo poo about the name.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:57
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Propaganda Hour posted:Why even try to rationalize the name? No one cares as long as it's not Windows One I got so stupidly angry IRL when they first said Windows One.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:57
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Belfiore posted:Q: When it comes to your enterprise customers about Windows 10. How big has the push back been to get Windows away from Live Tiles, back to Windows 7 stuff? Oh ok
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Sep 30, 2014 18:58
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Old Surly posted:Oh ok If there is one thing companies want their employees to do its less multitasking
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Sep 30, 2014 18:59
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Combat Pretzel posted:Oh god, that Tom Warren posted that they hosed with the command prompt. Hopefully they hosed with it a lot more than Ctrl+V, because the windows command prompt is terrible.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:00
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I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 this morning 
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Sep 30, 2014 19:02
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Old Surly posted:Oh ok It's kind of true, though. Take my dad, for example. I put Windows 8 in his PC and he loving hated it, until I set up his tiles just right (Word/Excel/Outlook - Chrome - Weather/News/Control Panel) and now he loving loves it because everything is huge and clear and obviously clickable. Obviously each use-case varies, but Tiles aren't a bad idea in and of themselves.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:02
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Belfiore posted:Q: Now it's Windows 10, will we see future versions named after big cats? Probably he says.  Pumped about virtual desktops. Kinda want to try it, but I'll let someone else go first and confirm that Diablo 3 works. 
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Sep 30, 2014 19:08
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Shortly after naming the third Xbox the Xbox One, Microsoft names Windows 9 Windows 10.  Because it's so good apparently.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:08
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jkyuusai posted:Probably he says. That said, October 11th is when my MSDN sub lapses, so likely by then, I might be required to install it, because I'm not going to spend any money on a retail version that's about to be obsoleted. I have never had any stability issues with the betas/previews of 7, 8 and 8.1 tho. Also, preview.windows.com doesn't forward to update instructions for going from 8.1 Preview to RTM anymore. --edit: There's a demo video, too. --edit2: Which makes it sound like Windows Insider is going to be a longterm thing. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 19:10
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I can't remember the last time I ever saw a new OS that had any features what so ever that were worth upgrading too?
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Sep 30, 2014 19:11
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Thermopyle posted:Hopefully they hosed with it a lot more than Ctrl+V, because the windows command prompt is terrible.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:13
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Zedsdeadbaby posted:Shortly after naming the third Xbox the Xbox One, Microsoft names Windows 9 Windows 10. Windows 8 was only the 8th Windows if you choose to only count NT releases that were not server editions, it was the 10th Windows if you count "normal user" versions going back to Windows 1.0 but not counting eg 1.01 and 1.04 as sperate versions. And so on. No matter how you try to order stuff, Windows 7 and 8 were already out-of-step with a lot of other indications for a number.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:15
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I dunno about the full thing, but Win10 freehand is a pretty satisfying acronym to me. On our way to Win32.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:20
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It's not called Windows One so we're all winners here really. Is there info on what's happening with hybrid devices? I saw touch brings up the start screen and clicks bring up the menu, which if true is exactly what I wanted.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:23
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That loving Sned posted:I just upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 this morning Isn't 9 or 10 or whatever supposed to be a free upgrade from 8?
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Sep 30, 2014 19:23
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Maybe they're trying to get cute with a binary 2.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:24
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Sep 30, 2014 19:24
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Skarsnik posted:Isn't 9 or 10 or whatever supposed to be a free upgrade from 8? That seems unlikely, unless you just mean limited time free upgrade programs (like we've had for xp computers bought within a certain number of months before vista, vista before a time ahead of 7 etc) There was never a Windows 2.5, just 2.0, 2.10 and 2.11 (2.11 being similar in nature to 3.11 vs 3.1). Nintendo Kid fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 19:25
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Nintendo Kid posted:Windows 8 was only the 8th Windows if you choose to only count NT releases that were not server editions, it was the 10th Windows if you count "normal user" versions going back to Windows 1.0 but not counting eg 1.01 and 1.04 as sperate versions. And so on.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:27
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Nintendo Kid posted:That seems unlikely, unless you just mean limited time free upgrade programs (like we've had for xp computers bought within a certain number of months before vista, vista before a time ahead of 7 etc)
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Sep 30, 2014 19:28
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Combat Pretzel posted:With the exception of Server 2003, which was delayed because they've done the huge security code review on it, all other server versions of NT are exactly the same binaries as the desktop versions. The only difference are the additional server related modules. It's a protected registry key that defines with what label Windows reports itself to the user, and it still works to this day. Of course, turning a desktop version into the server won't let you run an AD, because the modules don't ship on the install DVD. Server 2003 and "XP Professional x86 64 bit" is exactly what I had in mind, yes.
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mango sentinel posted:President of Microsoft Indonesia confirmed (the next Windows) would be a free upgrade, for whatever that's worth. God I loving hope so. Bought an 8 license in March and I really hate it.
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