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If only that camera that was on Mitt at all times could be made a live stream. Just a 2 year documentary of the Romney clan totally not being out of touch.
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quote:Recently he was taking an early-morning jog in Arkansas, where he was campaigning for the Republican gubernatorial candidate, Asa Hutchinson, when a woman accosted him. “You’re John Kerry! You’re John Kerry!” she yelled. He tried to correct her, but she wasn’t buying it; she kept running alongside him. “I said, ‘I’m not John Kerry — I’m Tom Brady,’ ” Romney recalled. At that, she left him alone. His life is one giant absurdist comedy sketch.
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Sep 30, 2014 14:59
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I wonder how many low info voters would be tricked by the "I was right about Russia and Iraq, if you'd elected me I would've somehow prevented the current disasters"? That would actually have me kinda worried.comes along bort posted:His life is one giant absurdist comedy sketch. It's been said bit he's basically a great Larry David character, every anecdote about him would fit right into a Curb Your Enthusiasm episode.
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Sep 30, 2014 15:50
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Michael Yglesias thinks you are all barking up the wrong tree.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:02
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Foyes36 posted:Michael Yglesias thinks you are all barking up the wrong tree. Matt Yglesias posted:The baseline criteria for becoming a major party presidential nominee is that you have to be the kind of person a major party would nominate for president. ... to be the nominee, you have to be like a nominee. Quality writing right here.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:21
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Nominees, like trees, need to be just the right height.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:22
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The public likes bipartisanship and dislikes deadlock, therefore avoid partisan fights by running a one party state with no effective opposition.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:43
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Yglesias is right about that, though he's just summarizing The Party Decides. Basically, to be the nominee in the post-1972 process you need (1) traditional qualifications, which means being a Governor, Senator, or VP (and cabinet Secretary and General might also work), (2) have views that are largely in line with the party orthodoxy, and (3) win the support of "party actors", which include elected officials, party officials, and the campaign apparatus. #1 is why Ben Carson is not going to be the nominee, #2 is why Rand Paul is (probably) not going to be the nominee, and #3 is why Ted Cruz is (definitely) not going to be the nominee.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:52
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Joementum posted:Yglesias is right about that, though he's just summarizing The Party Decides. Basically, to be the nominee in the post-1972 process you need (1) traditional qualifications, which means being a Governor, Senator, or VP (and cabinet Secretary and General might also work), (2) have views that are largely in line with the party orthodoxy, and (3) win the support of "party actors", which include elected officials, party officials, and the campaign apparatus. So what you're saying is that the thread needs a new title.
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Sep 30, 2014 17:10
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Joementum posted:Yglesias is right about that, though he's just summarizing The Party Decides. Basically, to be the nominee in the post-1972 process you need (1) traditional qualifications, which means being a Governor, Senator, or VP (and cabinet Secretary and General might also work), (2) have views that are largely in line with the party orthodoxy, and (3) win the support of "party actors", which include elected officials, party officials, and the campaign apparatus. How does #2 diminish the chances of Senator Rand Paul?
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Sep 30, 2014 17:58
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Gyges posted:How does #2 diminish the chances of Senator Rand Paul? His Ayn Rand fetishism works with the party, but a lot of his other stuff doesn't. Being so brazenly against the civil rights act, relative isolationism (although he has reversed course on a lot of this and now favors limiting foreign aid to 5 billion per year, with 4 billion going to Israel, instead of ending all foreign aid.), and favoring a path to citizenship are positions that are out of step with the party. The immigration one is probably the one that will hurt him the most. He has tried to deflect this by going all in on the "defend our border, English only, e-verify" rhetoric, but favoring even a minimal path to citizenship is a no-go. It's also fine to be against the civil rights act as a Republican, but you couch it in language about it being unfair that it doesn't cover the whole country and that racism is over, not by saying it is a fundamental right of business and American society to enforce white supremacy. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 18:08 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 18:04
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I can't remember the last time I've loved reading about a politician as much as Mitt. Please, never ever go away.  Here is a comment that's one of the NYT Picks: Romney 2016! posted:Romney-2012 had the ridiculous Tea Party baggage tied around his neck. The race was unwinnable, pretty much, after primaries when Romney was pushed to say some ridiculous things. Worst of all, he had to say those things, or he'd lose primaries to Gingrich or Santorum - the GOP was in that state of mind. So, no, no Romney-2012 for me. This being said, Obama did so many stupid things since 2012 that I may support Romney in 2016 - and the Democratic bench in 2016 is even weaker, with nobody in the field so far being able to match at least Rick Perry.
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Sep 30, 2014 18:12
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Oh man, if you think Romney had to say some silly things to beat Newt Gingrich and Rick Santorum, just you wait....
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Sep 30, 2014 18:14
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Ninjasaurus posted:I can't remember the last time I've loved reading about a politician as much as Mitt. Please, never ever go away. Yeah, Clinton would just get stomped by Perry. Maybe Alex Sink is available?
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Sep 30, 2014 18:24
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Carly Fiorina might run, which is hilarious because almost no one knows who she is, and those that do loving hate her.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:16
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Skwirl posted:Carly Fiorina might run, which is hilarious because almost no one knows who she is, and those that do loving hate her. She couldn't even win her Senate race, how would she have even a whisper of a chance? Or is this one of those 'get me on Fox News for a year' things?
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Sep 30, 2014 19:32
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Skwirl posted:Carly Fiorina might run, which is hilarious because almost no one knows who she is, and those that do loving hate her. Her experience is all from working for and running a company everyone hates. Seriously. Everyone in IT hates HP because they're bad at what they do, and everyone in middle America that bought an HP hates it. Find me one person who bought an HP to replace an HP.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:33
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De Nomolos posted:Her experience is all from working for and running a company everyone hates. Seriously. Everyone in IT hates HP because they're bad at what they do, and everyone in middle America that bought an HP hates it. Find me one person who bought an HP to replace an HP. She also ran HP into the ground. In the Republican Senate primary she won in almost every area of the state except Silicon valley where she lost by double digits if I remember correctly.
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De Nomolos posted:Her experience is all from working for and running a company everyone hates. Seriously. Everyone in IT hates HP because they're bad at what they do, and everyone in middle America that bought an HP hates it. Find me one person who bought an HP to replace an HP.
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Sep 30, 2014 20:34
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De Nomolos posted:Her experience is all from working for and running a company everyone hates. Seriously. Everyone in IT hates HP because they're bad at what they do, and everyone in middle America that bought an HP hates it. Find me one person who bought an HP to replace an HP.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:15
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Joementum posted:Yglesias is right about that, though he's just summarizing The Party Decides. Basically, to be the nominee in the post-1972 process you need (1) traditional qualifications, which means being a Governor, Senator, or VP (and cabinet Secretary and General might also work), (2) have views that are largely in line with the party orthodoxy, and (3) win the support of "party actors", which include elected officials, party officials, and the campaign apparatus. If you're going to crush our dreams, the least you could do is let us down a little easier...
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Sep 30, 2014 21:20
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Skwirl posted:Carly Fiorina might run, which is hilarious because almost no one knows who she is, and those that do loving hate her. Watching her and Meg Whitmen lose so hard was the only high point of the 2010 election
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Watching her and Meg Whitmen lose so hard was the only high point of the 2010 election Lose so hard on self funded campaigns. That's were the real warm feelings come from.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:37
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Watching her and Meg Whitmen lose so hard was the only high point of the 2010 election Carly Fiorina's nightmarish advertising was the high point of the election. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wo_Ejfc5hW8&t=140s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJKlc77K5dg I'm 100% for a Fiorina run as long as she keeps the same ad people. Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 21:44 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 21:42
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Good christ Mitt Romney's adorable when he doesn't affect your life.
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Sep 30, 2014 21:48
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richardfun posted:If you're going to crush our dreams, the least you could do is let us down a little easier... Just because he's not going to be the nominee doesn't mean he won't run. Newt Gingrich was never going to be the nominee either, but that didn't stop him from giving us a glorious year of comedy.
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too bad Huntsman isn't game for another valiant-but-doomed moderate run. what's primary season without watching an optimistic party outsider ground into dust?
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Sep 30, 2014 22:01
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At least we now know Romney will be quaranteened in Utah from now on.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:31
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SedanChair posted:Good christ Mitt Romney's adorable when he doesn't affect your life. Yeah for real. Go be a city council member or something, Mitt; get your spirits up.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:39
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mooyashi posted:Yeah for real. Go be a city council member or something, Mitt; get your spirits up. There's something that warms the decrepit cockles of my heart imagining a world where we get Mitt Romney, School Board Member.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:49
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Can you imagine a Republican candidate that didn't have to gargle blood to satisfy the base? Seriously in an alternate universe where John Kerry ran against Mitt Romney in 1996 I'd probably struggle.
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Sep 30, 2014 22:52
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He did run against Kennedy in 1994. The footage of their debate was even shown at the 2012 DNC during the tribute to Kennedy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7pYxnNUYkU&t=100s The 1994 Romney campaign also gave us this great C-SPAN footage of him campaigning door-to-door. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bd8KQDMZ21w "Oh, looks like you haven't put on your makeup yet. Oh, you have? Ha Ha Ha." Never change, Mitt
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Sep 30, 2014 23:19
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TheGreyGhost posted:There's something that warms the decrepit cockles of my heart imagining a world where we get Mitt Romney, School Board Member. Suddenly I'm getting visions of Obama ordering polling on Mittens' school board race and becoming despondent when it turns out he's going to win.
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Oct 1, 2014 00:07
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Romney apparently did lose a 2013 school board election on Long Island.
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:Lose so hard on self funded campaigns. That's were the real warm feelings come from. Seriously, there was no better schadenfreude than watching Meg Whitman blow nearly a 150mil of her own money to lose by 13%.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Seriously, there was no better schadenfreude than watching Meg Whitman blow nearly a 150mil of her own money to lose by 13%. That was loving glorious. You know, if she'd spent that 150 million starting a charity, she'd be a lot more fondly remembered and able to exert more political influence.
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Oct 1, 2014 01:18
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Hiring away a couple dozen GOP hacks and keeping them away from working on competitive races could be considered some form of charity.
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Malkamar posted:Suddenly I'm getting visions of Obama ordering polling on Mittens' school board race and becoming despondent when it turns out he's going to win. In the future all former presidents are forced to run in low-level, unpublicized local elections in districts they are unfamiliar with until they win. After they win, they must resign at the completion of their first term and move on to run in another district. Until they die.
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I really feel like Romney could very likely win the nomination again over the current clown car field, but I cringe to think the stuff he'll feel like he must say while running against Cruz, Paul and Santorum.
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Zwabu posted:I really feel like Romney could very likely win the nomination again over the current clown car field, but I cringe to think the stuff he'll feel like he must say while running against Cruz, Paul and Santorum. The biggest problem the GOP is going to have is that we already saw that Mittens is basically unelectable but the rest of the band of idiots is effectively in a massive competition to be the most unelectable. As much as they like to act like America is going to, any day now, go extreme right wing and the silent majority will quit being silent any second now what we're seeing in voting patterns is that this just isn't true. However, Mittens is really their most electable candidate and, well, we saw how well that went last time. I mean, are they seriously suggesting that Santorum has a chance in hell of winning? Here's a guy that people hate so drat much they named the weird mess of lube and poo poo that butt sex can lead to after him.
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