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Asphyxious posted:I have a foil treasure cruise but I have the bizarre feeling if I try to trade it at my game store I'll get laughed out as it's clearly an unsustainable spike. My plan is to demand a Polluted Delta for mine and just  until the trade happens.
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Just opened 6 Khans packs (yeah I know, but I had store credit and didn't wanna think too much about it), got a Windswept Heath and a Wooded Foothills. Not bad  Also cracked a Swiftspear, Murderous Cut, and Butcher
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Tracula posted:Any sort of consensus on what to do with foil fetch lands? I could see regular ones dropping as the market gets more saturated but not really sure what to do with the shiny ones. Just sit on it for a year or so. The price will skyrocket post rotation.
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in a few days, I attempt to get into MtG. complete nub, preferred play-style is more deliberate thought and domination through well-planned pushes as opposed to simply vomiting my hand onto the field like a shitstain on autopilot with swarm tactics and playing nope cards to attempt not to lose everything. I am leaving yugioh(gently caress you trollnami), not going to significantly older and (somehow) more smug yugioh. I also want to play standard, starting with this new khans pack and I'm willing to invest in maybe an intro pack+fat pack's worth(roughly 55 USD). currently the jeskai look appealing due to their awesomely manly monk motif and dat flying crane thingy. for now, I'd like to get my feet wet with casual play, and then start playing FNM. I also have my younger brother to look to for some degree of direction(judging from his yugimanz playing, goons might be better guidance), and maybe blame for this cardboard crack I'm converting to. so...any advice based on dis?
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Sep 30, 2014 14:00
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Tracula posted:Any sort of consensus on what to do with foil fetch lands? I could see regular ones dropping as the market gets more saturated but not really sure what to do with the shiny ones. They'll shoot back up once they're out of print because they're better in Modern and Legacy than they are in Standard.
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Entropic posted:They'll shoot back up once they're out of print because they're better in Modern and Legacy than they are in Standard. Yep. I'm seriously thinking of buying another playset or two of each fetch to sit on until they rotate out. They'll definitely spike up.
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nehezir posted:in a few days, I attempt to get into MtG. complete nub, preferred play-style is more deliberate thought and domination through well-planned pushes as opposed to simply vomiting my hand onto the field like a shitstain on autopilot with swarm tactics and playing nope cards to attempt not to lose everything. Holy Run-On Sentence Batman! Also, what the hell does "vomiting my hand onto the field like a shitstain on autopilot with swarm tactics and playing nope cards to attempt not to lose everything" mean other than you don't want to play aggro? What is a nope card? nehezir posted:I am leaving yugioh(gently caress you trollnami), not going to significantly older and (somehow) more smug yugioh. .........so your leaving Yu-Gi-Oh for smugger Yu-Gi-Oh, alright, sure...its a joke I guess. nehezir posted:I also want to play standard, starting with this new khans pack and I'm willing to invest in maybe an intro pack+fat pack's worth(roughly 55 USD). currently the jeskai look appealing due to their awesomely manly monk motif and dat flying crane thingy. Ok this is something we can work with, other than the word "dat." Probably the best "budget" build is going to be something like this mono-red build: 4x Firedrinker Satyr 4x Akroan Crusader 3x Goblin Rabblemaster 4x Foundry Street Denizen 4x Monastery Swiftspear 4x Dragon Mantle 4x Titan Strength 4x Hammerhand 4x Co-Ordinated Assault 4x Lightning Strike 2x Searing Blood 2x Magma Jet 17x Mountain Which should be right around your budget range. Yes, it is a deck that plays out its hand as fast as possible to kill the opponent as fast as possible, but it has some powerful synergies and can be difficult to play correctly, so there is some definite thought in playing it optimaly. The midrange, and other slower decks you seem interested in, are more than double your budget in just their lands, let alone in the cards that actually do anything. So unless your budget increases you will be playing aggro for a while. nehezir posted:for now, I'd like to get my feet wet with casual play, and then start playing FNM. I also have my younger brother to look to for some degree of direction(judging from his yugimanz playing, goons might be better guidance), and maybe blame for this cardboard crack I'm converting to. Ok this intentional misspelling nonsense is incredibly irritating, especially from a post that is nominally seeking assistance in one way or another. Don't make people, who you are asking for advice, decode your asinine nerd slang. (yugimanz, dis, dat, trollnami) However casual play is entirely different from FNM, we can't really give to much advice on that outside of having you post a deck, in the Brehaus http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3668234 and have us tear it apart there, and offer better/different card choices. Insofar as FNM/Standard, 55 bux is incredibly budget and doesn't even cover most decks manabase, so while you are building up a collection, the monored variant I posted above is going to be your best bet. Other than that, see about playing in limited events. Here is an overview of limited from the OP: OP posted:Limited: There are two popular limited formats: Sealed Deck, and Booster Draft. High-level limited tournaments are usually run sealed deck, with booster drafts as their top 8 playoffs. In sealed deck, a player gets six packs. With those cards, and as many extra basic lands as they wish, they have to build a deck that's at least 40 cards. Sealed is part luck (what you open), and part skill (how you build and play with your deck). Booster drafting involves each player getting three booster packs and sitting around a table. At the same time, each player opens up their first pack, takes a card out, and passes the rest of the cards in the pack to their left. This continues until all the cards in each pack are gone, then the second pack is opened and passed to the right. The third and last pack goes left again. Skilled players can sense which colors are "open" and pick cards that are strong in those colors. Then players follow the same deck construction rules as sealed deck - a minimum 40-card deck using as much extra basic land as they want. Some players consider booster drafting to be the best test of a Magic player's skill. edit-I guess I was successfully trolled?  \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ Madmarker fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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Sep 30, 2014 14:54
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nevermind. I'll just flounder about and figure something out. have a good season.
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Don't normally post the podcasts I do (who am I kidding, I'm an attention whore!), but Marshall Sutcliffe was on this week to talk up Constructed Resources! http://media.kisw.com/a/97356131/bjgn-09-30-14-magic-the-gathering-marshall-sutcliffe.htm
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nehezir posted:nevermind. I'll just flounder about and figure something out. have a good season. Madmarker's deck he posted was pretty helpful - I think the point is if you have 55 bucks, its better to buy single cards than an intro pack and fatpack. Another competitive "budget" deck is mono black aggro (the base deck is cheap except the thoughtsiezes which you can work towards and replace with something else for now). Below is a list of one that top 32'd a large tournament over the weekend. http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=73347
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Sep 30, 2014 15:20
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It's nice to see Pain Seer actually seeing some use 
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Froghammer posted:It's nice to see Pain Seer actually seeing some use I'm fairly certain it's been played on Mono Black Aggro for a while now. But yeah, I'm glad Bob's Little Brother is seeing use too
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TicalStal posted:Madmarker's deck he posted was pretty helpful - I think the point is if you have 55 bucks, its better to buy single cards than an intro pack and fatpack. Another competitive "budget" deck is mono black aggro (the base deck is cheap except the thoughtsiezes which you can work towards and replace with something else for now). Below is a list of one that top 32'd a large tournament over the weekend. I can say that boon of erobos is an upgrade maindeck over heroes downfall in this format and also makes the deck cheaper. Despise can replace thoughtseize for extra savings.
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Sep 30, 2014 16:36
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Froghammer posted:It's nice to see Pain Seer actually seeing some use I had a pair put in some good work in Rakdos Aggro; they occupied a spot normally taken by shred-freaks. RIP Cackler.
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Sep 30, 2014 17:33
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 Haha, Time Spiral (block) was nuts.
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Tracula posted:Any sort of consensus on what to do with foil fetch lands? I could see regular ones dropping as the market gets more saturated but not really sure what to do with the shiny ones. Hold for years.
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Dr. Stab posted:Hold for years.
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Dr. Stab posted:Hold for years. Imagine the Bugatti you'll be able to trade it for in 20 years when everyone in the civilized world plays magic!
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Chill la Chill posted:Imagine the Bugatti you'll be able to trade it for in 20 years when everyone in the civilized world plays magic! I for one am prepared for when the world currency switches over to foil Polluted Deltas.
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Angry Grimace posted:I for one am prepared for when the world currency switches over to foil Polluted Deltas.
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Yawgmoth posted:Still a better currency than bitcoins. Polluted Delta has an actual use backing its value: It can get Volcanic Island or Bayou. 
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Polluted Delta has an actual use backing its value: It can get Volcanic Island or Bayou. Or the most powerful card in Magic: Island.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:29
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Went to my local LGS at lunch and noticed they had ashcloud phoenix for 3 bucks peace. Was I wrong to think that was a purchase worth making?
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Sep 30, 2014 19:29
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Sickening posted:Went to my local LGS at lunch and noticed they had ashcloud phoenix for 3 bucks peace. Was I wrong to think that was a purchase worth making? Well, it is unlikely to be worth more. That price is about right for a mythic that doesn't really see play other than kitchen table.
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jassi007 posted:Well, it is unlikely to be worth more. That price is about right for a mythic that doesn't really see play other than kitchen table. drat SCG sure brings a lot of kitchen tables to their opens.
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Ultima66 posted:drat SCG sure brings a lot of kitchen tables to their opens. I've certainly been wrong but I looked over the decklists. I just went and looked again, admittedly not all 64 lists for both opens but I can't find a deck it appeared in.
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jassi007 posted:I've certainly been wrong but I looked over the decklists. I just went and looked again, admittedly not all 64 lists for both opens but I can't find a deck it appeared in. http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/deck_search_result.asp?CardName=Ashcloud%20Phoenix&partner=MAGCINFO It was a 2 of in the sideboard in the deck that won in edison.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:52
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It also was just on camera pretty consistently in a lot of Jeskai decks.
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Sep 30, 2014 19:53
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If Jeskai Tempo is going to be a big thing going forward, Ashcloud Phoenix is going to be a good card both in that deck's sideboard, and to bring in AGAINST that deck.
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jassi007 posted:I've certainly been wrong but I looked over the decklists. I just went and looked again, admittedly not all 64 lists for both opens but I can't find a deck it appeared in. I simply can't fathom deciding to buy a bunch of cards based on what showed up at the SCG Open when the Pro Tour is in like a week. Yes, they play a lot of matches at the SCG Open. No, it is not a big enough sample size to decide what the meta is.
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Angry Grimace posted:I simply can't fathom deciding to buy a bunch of cards based on what showed up at the SCG Open when the Pro Tour is in like a week. I understand that people are having itchy trigger fingers but really? You can't fathom how people can buy cards after the first big tourney of the format?
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Sickening posted:I understand that people are having itchy trigger fingers but really? You can't fathom how people can buy cards after the first big tourney of the format? Not expensive ones, no. Unless you see a Master of Waves out there, but that's a card that DIDN'T get played in those SCG tournaments, not the other way around.
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Angry Grimace posted:I simply can't fathom deciding to buy a bunch of cards based on what showed up at the SCG Open when the Pro Tour is in like a week. Technically speaking the Pro Tour is an even smaller sample size than a single SCG Open. Granted, it does have that whole "The best players in the world forming teams with the sole purpose of breaking the format" thing going for it.
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qbert posted:Technically speaking the Pro Tour is an even smaller sample size than a single SCG Open. Granted, it does have that whole "The best players in the world forming teams with the sole purpose of breaking the format" thing going for it. If there were 50 SCG Opens from which to derive data from, it would be different. One Pro Tour is worth a lot more than one SCG Open.
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Angry Grimace posted:Not expensive ones, no. Unless you see a Master of Waves out there, but that's a card that DIDN'T get played in those SCG tournaments, not the other way around. Wait, what card did you believe we are talking about because whatever the gently caress you are babbling about doesn't make sense.
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Sickening posted:Wait, what card did you believe we are talking about because whatever the gently caress you are babbling about doesn't make sense. He's making a point about the ongoing formation of the metagame and how it informs purchasing decisions.
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Sickening posted:Wait, what card did you believe we are talking about because whatever the gently caress you are babbling about doesn't make sense. Ashcloud Phoenix being in the sideboard of some deck at the SCG Open as a good reason to buy it. You should not buy cards based on the meta unless you know what the meta is. If a card is clearly good on its own merits, that's a different reason to buy a card; e.g. Master of Waves.
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You all don't preorder playsets of every card in a set?
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Angry Grimace posted:Ashcloud Phoenix being in the sideboard of some deck at the SCG Open as a good reason to buy it. I agree with your overall point but at the same time I'll say that Ashcloud Phoenix is both a good card on its own merits, and it's not expensive right now. So buying it seems fine.
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Which is funny because on its own merits phoenix is a 4 drop that is more resilient to removal than master of waves and also has evasion. Not that it will likely jump in price but 3 dollars is a decent floor price for a mythic that sees a reasonable amount of play.
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