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AirRaid posted:Honestly I don't think any of the cards are going to sound like rocket engines. You gotta remember that "noisy" is relative. People panicked about the evga cooler because it was benchmarked 10-20% louder than the Msi one or something, but that's still 10-20% louder than practically silent. These coolers are really well made, Your other case fans and drives will probably be making far more noise. As will your speakers. You know, when you play that game which is making the fans spin. The rest of my computer is VERY silent - huge Noctua NH-D14 on the CPU set to minimum RPM, fairly quiet PSU, etc. At least with my 560 (Twin Frozr, older generation) the GPU fans were the problem - I mostly play with headphones, but I'm not the only person in the house. My current 660 (DirectCU II) has been good so far - max fan speed can be heard, but it's not a too annoying sound (though I feel minimum fan speed is a bit high). Last time I chose cards by finding a ranking of "noise under load" and picking the most silent.
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I have been looking for a card to upgrade my GTX 560ti, but was told to hold off. Is the 970 the one to pull the trigger on?
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Looks like my case can only fit a EVGA or Zotac 970, how are the later? Don't really see Zotac discussed much.
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Avalerion posted:Looks like my case can only fit a EVGA or Zotac 970, how are the later? Don't really see Zotac discussed much. As far as I know it's a pretty good brand. What case do you have?
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The Lord Bude posted:As far as I know it's a pretty good brand. What case do you have? No idea, it's a prebuild PC. Card inside now is about 23cm so I'm just comparing to that.
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So I picked up 2 Zotac GTX 970s last night. Performance is stellar and I could swear the the 2D desktop image is somehow sharper vs my r9 290s  For those of you with 970 SLI setups what are your temps? Pushing Ultra settings in CryEngine gets one card into the low 80C range which is a bit hotter than I wanted. I'm thinking I might take the cards apart and re-apply thermal paste and see how that goes. I'm also amazed at how small the 970 is. It's like 1/2 the length of my 290s
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Unlucky7 posted:I have been looking for a card to upgrade my GTX 560ti, but was told to hold off. Is the 970 the one to pull the trigger on?
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Isn't a 980 Ti basically out of the question since a 980 is already fully enabled GM204 silicon with all SMXes / CUDA cores active?
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Knifegrab posted:SLI is such a poo poo show though since it requires the developers to make extra effort As I have said time and time again, SLI (and Crossfire) is a black box that game developers have absolutely no access to. The only thing devs can do that is directly SLI-related is get the GPU count. Beyond that, there apparently are a few general considerations with regards to dependencies between render targets and avoiding early sync of select few GPU queries. But since there are no tools to speak of that let devs profile SLI bottlenecks, the bulk of the work of getting SLI to work is pretty much always engine-specific driver-side hacks from nVidia/AMD's part. nVidia does send teams of developers on-site to help with nVidia-specific development, but from my personal experience that was more to implement their own fancy features (TXAA, VisualFX, etc.) than actually optimizing developers' poo poo.
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Welmu posted:Isn't a 980 Ti basically out of the question since a 980 is already fully enabled GM204 silicon with all SMXes / CUDA cores active? In the vein of 780/780Ti, yes, because the 780 was not a fully enabled chip. They could do one with only a higher factory clock, but there'd be basically no point to that vs just getting a better binned EVGA SC card or something like that. The next highest thing after 980s would have to be a larger GM200/210 chip. Keep in mind that us actually getting the ginormous GK110 chip on a consumer card in the form of the Titan Black/780ti has not at all been the norm for Nvidia. I think it was probably more of a reaction to TSMC's massive issues, they had to introduce something to keep ramping up performance in the absence of 20nm. So who knows if we end up seeing a similar titan/780ti version of maxwell, vs them all showing up in Quadro or Tesla cards.
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Welmu posted:Isn't a 980 Ti basically out of the question since a 980 is already fully enabled GM204 silicon with all SMXes / CUDA cores active? They're probably going to bring out a GM210 Quadro & Tesla, and could possibly do a $1000+ "Titan Obsidian" to sell that GPU to gamers with more money than sense.
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Welmu posted:Isn't a 980 Ti basically out of the question since a 980 is already fully enabled GM204 silicon with all SMXes / CUDA cores active? Gwaihir posted:In the vein of 780/780Ti, yes, because the 780 was not a fully enabled chip. They could do one with only a higher factory clock, but there'd be basically no point to that vs just getting a better binned EVGA SC card or something like that. The next highest thing after 980s would have to be a larger GM200/210 chip. The rumor mill has been speculating (wwccftech rumor warning) that there will be a larger GM200 chip. It is also possible that instead of producing a larger GM200 on the 28nm process, nVidia will wait for the process change expected in the first half of 2015. Until then there would be overclocked GTX 980s like an EVGA Classified edition or maybe something with a CLC.  
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Rastor posted:The last dozen or so pages have been nothing but discussion by everyone with anything less than a GTX 780 pulling the trigger on the 970. Well yeah but those could be early adopters and people with more money than sense 
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Jan posted:As I have said time and time again, SLI (and Crossfire) is a black box that game developers have absolutely no access to. The only thing devs can do that is directly SLI-related is get the GPU count. Beyond that, there apparently are a few general considerations with regards to dependencies between render targets and avoiding early sync of select few GPU queries. But since there are no tools to speak of that let devs profile SLI bottlenecks, the bulk of the work of getting SLI to work is pretty much always engine-specific driver-side hacks from nVidia/AMD's part. nVidia does send teams of developers on-site to help with nVidia-specific development, but from my personal experience that was more to implement their own fancy features (TXAA, VisualFX, etc.) than actually optimizing developers' poo poo. This is one of the things that the new APIs should provide a massive improvement on. Mantle provides application-level control over multiple discrete GPUs and I would imagine that gl-next and DX12 will do the same.
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So my Gigabyte GTX 970 just arrived today  and it's pretty drat awesome. I do hear a light buzzing sound when it starts going into load (tested it around a bit in The Witcher 2) but it's almost inaudible which is very loving far off from the r9 280 i returned.Will continue bringing updates if there's anything exceptionally good or bad about the board that's noticeable. What's a good software to check temperatures on the GPU with btw?
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Sep 30, 2014 16:32
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Unlucky7 posted:I have been looking for a card to upgrade my GTX 560ti, but was told to hold off. Is the 970 the one to pull the trigger on? I upgraded from a 560 ti and I have been very happy with it both in performance and relative noise levels.
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This thread has me confused. Do the new MSI 970's have fan issues or not?
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Knifegrab posted:This thread has me confused. Do the new MSI 970's have fan issues or not? For some people, yes. MSI is aware of the problem but no solution yet. https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=183618.0;all
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Senjuro posted:For some people, yes. MSI is aware of the problem but no solution yet. Thanks, I'll hang back until the issues are resolved, I've also loved MSI as a non-reference so I'll see how this plays out.
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So much for 780ti resale value http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487072
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Got my EVGA 970 ACX yesterday, fan noise is hardly noticeable makes less noise then by 3 intake fans on my Antec 1200. Go! PCMASTERRACE getting annoying complainers into computers.
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Don Lapre posted:So much for 780ti resale value For those of us not up on the previous cost, what is the difference?
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Don Lapre posted:So much for 780ti resale value
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r0ck0 posted:For those of us not up on the previous cost, what is the difference? $750 was original retail http://www.evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=03G-P4-2887-KR 1gnoirents posted:What does classified mean if it doesn't even have a factory OC Classified has a custom PCB and larger cooler.
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Don Lapre posted:$750 was original retail I mean as long as it OC's like the rest that would surely make a hard decision if I had dual 1440p or 4k with a 780ti already and was considering going 970 sli or something (and if I only wanted NIB). Good deal, but out of the box wont be as good as a non reference 970 which is just funny
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dorkanoid posted:3x displayport is exactly what I want
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Don Lapre posted:So much for 780ti resale value It was widely speculated at the time that these would be getting clearance'd to make room for the Maxwell lineup. nVidia is not one to go the many-skews route; fabbing a few great chip types and harvesting them is more their kick. Ran drat near the entire 600-series off the GK104 chip alone; see the sensible folks waiting to see if a 960 drops and is to their liking here for the results of having basically done that a few generations in a row. It's a strategy that works well for them and minimizes their overhead with TSMC (and keeps them from having too much of a foot in the past, I'd speculate). Anyone who didn't see this kinda thing coming the moment the embargo lifted on that killer price point missed a trick (especially since it was explicitly stated to be about to happen in at least one article on the new cards) 
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I want to get a new video card for the rift when it comes out but I want a new video card now too. I currently have a gtx560 which is pretty weak. What are the chances that nvidia will release a better/faster/cheaper card before the CV1 is out. I know this is a lot of speculation but my general question is how likely is nvidia to release a newer card in the next 12-18 months?
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r0ck0 posted:I want to get a new video card for the rift when it comes out but I want a new video card now too. I currently have a gtx560 which is pretty weak. What are the chances that nvidia will release a better/faster/cheaper card before the CV1 is out. I know this is a lot of speculation but my general question is how likely is nvidia to release a newer card in the next 12-18 months? Since nobody knows when CV1 will come out the chances are good a newer faster card will be out by then.
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r0ck0 posted:I want to get a new video card for the rift when it comes out but I want a new video card now too. I currently have a gtx560 which is pretty weak. What are the chances that nvidia will release a better/faster/cheaper card before the CV1 is out. I know this is a lot of speculation but my general question is how likely is nvidia to release a newer card in the next 12-18 months? Virtually 100%, but it's not going to make it any easier on you in the meantime. Wait for a 960, fair enough; but you are due a card upgrade if you expect to play stuff not made in Flash in the meantime.
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More general question: How big of a performance difference would there be with the next card released and the current 970? Will it be a small incremental upgrade equal to SLI 970 or would it be a huge difference and SLI970 wouldn't be close? Oh crystal ball tell me your secrets. Is the 960 going to be a cheaper/slower version of the 970?
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Shadow of Mordor does indeed use 3GB of VRAM with High textures. Maxed out at 3558MB at auto detected settings for a 970 at 2560*1440. Can't say what type of AA it's using or what level, but it's more than 0.
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Agreed posted:Virtually 100%, but it's not going to make it any easier on you in the meantime. Wait for a 960, fair enough; but you are due a card upgrade if you expect to play stuff not made in Flash in the meantime. If the nVidia 5xx series held up anywhere near as well as the ATI 58xx series, he might be fine until the CV1 is released, and if he really wants to buy a GPU for CV1, he should wait the 12-18 months until it comes out before buying one. I can't think of a single point in history where a faster or cheaper GPU has not come out in an 18 month period.
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If nothing else, AMD's going to get their next line up sooner or later, and that should be competitive. A single card being "equal to SLI 970s" is not a "small incremental upgrade" by any means, though. I'd expect that configuration to remain effective for some time.
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Unless you listen to the doomsayers who consider the 970 to be the killing blow to AMD. Time shall tell.
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When are MSI 970's going to more prevelant so I can stop camping nowinstock.com?
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Showing Gigabyte cards in stock at newegg. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ID=6202798&SID=
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Hamburger Test posted:Shadow of Mordor does indeed use 3GB of VRAM with High textures. Maxed out at 3558MB at auto detected settings for a 970 at 2560*1440. Could you check to see how much VRAM it uses at 1080p? If it uses over 3GB at 1080p I'm most definitely getting a 970. Atreus posted:Showing Gigabyte cards in stock at newegg. That card is 15.9 inches long there is no way that is fitting in my case. spasticColon fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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