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I think the show does get better re-watching it, because a surprising amount of stuff either comes back, or is set up to come back in the future. You can see where the little bits of stuff Ward feeds to Garrett comes from. It actually ties in together a lot more than it appeared to on the first run. And yes, you can see Skye progressing as an agent, starting out pretty incompetent, but driven to get better, which she does slowly over the course of the season. Her being able to climb a rope and shoot two guys with an icer does not mean she's now an super-agent.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 16:04 |
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hangedman1984 posted:It IS a Joss Whedon show. Honestly I have been waiting with trepidation since pretty much day 1 for something really bad to happen to Fitz or Simmons. At the same time, Marvel/Disney's got their hand in things and they seem to prefer more clearcut heroes and villains.
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 18:16 |
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I think the show does get better re-watching it, because a surprising amount of stuff either comes back, or is set up to come back in the future. You can see where the little bits of stuff Ward feeds to Garrett comes from. It actually ties in together a lot more than it appeared to on the first run. I hadn't considered until that episode that those Icers are actually really worthwhile and not just a "we don't want out main characters to kill a ton of people" plot device. I mean, the ability to completely incapacitate any enemy combatant with a single hit to any part of their body is a pretty great upgrade, especially for a character who might not be a perfect shot, like Skye. (and of course there's the fact that they're more effective on various metahumans too, but besides that the "hit anywhere = out cold" is a great effect)
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# ? Sep 28, 2014 23:36 |
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anyone see the tahiti tree on the hydra box at the begining of the show?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 02:27 |
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stgdz posted:anyone see the tahiti tree on the hydra box at the begining of the show? I'm pretty sure that was just the Afrika Korps logo
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 02:32 |
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e X posted:Background noise. Do people really engage in online discussions on a subject based purely on their use of it as background noise? Edit for actual content because this conversation sucks anyway: I am not familiar with Mockingbird from the comic, but from what I see she is a pretty adept kicker of rear end. In the shows universe, would she be a 'May' level of badass? I saw the Koenig video from comic con and they seem to hype her up a bit. a cock shaped fruit fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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a cock shaped fruit posted:Do people really engage in online discussions on a subject based purely on their use of it as background noise? She's a trained SHIELD agent and an Avenger, so she is definitely a good fighter (especially with escrima sticks), but she's also well-versed at spycraft. In the comics, she is Hawkeye's ex-wife.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 02:57 |
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Where's Quartermain, that's what I wanna know!
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 03:01 |
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Irish Joe posted:You're vastly underestimating how bad this show was, and is. I mean, how do you watch the Skye/Ward interrogation scene and not groan constantly at the stupid posturing? How do you not roll your eyes every time Coulsen makes some heroic declarative statement that falls flat on its face? How do you not scoff every time the show teases a 'mystery' in the most clumsy, hamfisted way possible? Because all of those things were entertaining??
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 03:22 |
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DarklyDreaming posted:I'm pretty sure that was just the Afrika Korps logo ^100% confirmed DAK seal
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 05:22 |
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Ok so I've been watching the show since the start (gonna skip the whole good/bad reasoning for watching a notverygoodfromtheoutset show with the whole 'it ties into marvel movies well enough' argument) - the opening episode of the season was awesome... but, I happen to be watching The Avengers as I type this - why is Fitz trying to deconstruct the stealth tech? Shouldn't SHIELD have that tech down by now? Either through them originally being SHIELD (and also HYDRA) which means it got released and should be EVERYWHERE by now (or sold to bidders who could deconstruct it better and then sell how to make it/make it for people?) I'm basing this off the end result of Cap 2 where all of SHIELD's files got released totally. Why's Fitz trying to recreate the stealth tech if that's happened?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 09:23 |
Having the information isn't very useful without the ability to understand the information. If the SHIELD stealth tech is as complex as it seems, then it was most likely fabricated in multiple steps, each of which themselves had to be built in multiple steps. And in all likelihood a different contractor would have been responsible for each step. No single person (that team Coulson can call on, anyway) is likely to have fully understood every step of producing the technology, and every step of producing the means to produce the technology. Fitz is trying to do so now, and he probably would have been able to somewhat easily too with all the information already available, except he's no longer in his right mind. Slashrat fucked around with this message at 09:55 on Sep 29, 2014 |
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 09:53 |
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Fury forgot to download all the work instructions onto the cube.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 12:09 |
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Sir Spaniard posted:Why's Fitz trying to recreate the stealth tech if that's happened?
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 15:16 |
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I was thinking they gave Fitz the cloaking assignment because it couldn't be solved easily (in his condition). So the busywork keeps him occupied and Fitz gets to say "hey I'm useful" (though it doesn't seem to be working out right now).
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 16:07 |
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Fitz was not trying to deconstruct it. He's trying to fix it. It got damaged on the Bus and that's why they stole the Quinjet, to get a vehicle with working Stealth.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 16:20 |
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I doubt they'll go into this level of detail (if they do, I'll be pleasantly surprised), but I imagine a Quinjet would take a lot less fuel to keep flying, too.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 16:26 |
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Vendetta posted:I doubt they'll go into this level of detail (if they do, I'll be pleasantly surprised), but I imagine a Quinjet would take a lot less fuel to keep flying, too. Considering Fury's new Heli-carriers had switched to Repulsor engines, probably true.
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# ? Sep 29, 2014 16:55 |
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gently caress it, I want them to have a helicarrier by next season.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 02:59 |
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Circutron posted:Unfortunately, another show beat them to it. They blue their load, if you will, on a dry run. The Sharmat posted:So am I the only one that liked this show from the start and just assumed all this stuff was going somewhere? You're not a proper Goon, please surrender your security badge. You have 10 minutes to clear your desk. Goons aren't allowed to give things time. Dan Didio posted:S.H.I.E.L.D. is gone. We know, dude, we KNOW. JESUS.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 03:38 |
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Kept putting off watching the opening because I was so worried it would all turn right back to poo poo. So happy I was wrong Also, the costume designers should get props () for making a man wearing WWII body armour and bowler hat look not only believable, but actually good.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 16:30 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:Kept putting off watching the opening because I was so worried it would all turn right back to poo poo. So happy I was wrong Well I imagine the costume designers from Captain America: The First Avenger had a pretty good budget, so yeah.
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 16:32 |
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Gorilla Salad posted:Kept putting off watching the opening because I was so worried it would all turn right back to poo poo. So happy I was wrong I really, really hope Neal McDonough is in Agent Carter, even just in a guest role. (Is that his real moustache, or is it make-up?) Gaz-L fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Sep 30, 2014 |
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ToastyPotato posted:Well I imagine the costume designers from Captain America: The First Avenger had a pretty good budget, so yeah. Forgot that's where he debuted
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 16:50 |
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Sir Spaniard posted:Why's Fitz trying to recreate the stealth tech if that's happened? SHIELD is almost pathologically secretive, so...
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 16:56 |
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Dominic Cooper confirmed to reprise role as Howard Stark for Agent Carter. http://screenrant.com/marvel-agent-carter-dominic-cooper-howard-stark/
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# ? Sep 30, 2014 23:10 |
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ToastyPotato posted:Dominic Cooper confirmed to reprise role as Howard Stark for Agent Carter. That's awesome.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:06 |
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I'm gonna be completely honest that I'm not sure why people care so much about Howard Stark. I mean, it's nice that he'll appear, but even back when Agent Carter was first announced, a huge part of the response was people going "OOOH MAYBE NOW WE'LL GET TO SEE MORE HOWARD!!" and I'm like
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:10 |
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BrianWilly posted:I'm gonna be completely honest that I'm not sure why people care so much about Howard Stark. I mean, it's nice that he'll appear, but even back when Agent Carter was first announced, a huge part of the response was people going "OOOH MAYBE NOW WE'LL GET TO SEE MORE HOWARD!!" and I'm like I think solely because it's Dominic Cooper. People seem to like him.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:12 |
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Is he utterly spectacular in some parts of the world or something? I think the only other thing I've seen him in is Mamma Mia.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:14 |
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Well, Howard is an established character from the comic books. So it makes it a little neater for those of us who are ginormous nerds. Plus, he has that horrible mustache that RDJ refuses to wear in lieu of a bitchin' goatee, and I guess that some people like horrible mustaches?
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:15 |
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BrianWilly posted:I'm gonna be completely honest that I'm not sure why people care so much about Howard Stark. I mean, it's nice that he'll appear, but even back when Agent Carter was first announced, a huge part of the response was people going "OOOH MAYBE NOW WE'LL GET TO SEE MORE HOWARD!!" and I'm like Howard Stark is pretty cool in the SHIELD comic that Marvel had out.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:15 |
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For me, he's just an excuse to explore zany gadgets. Bring it! vvv I'm pretty sure that's going to be a given.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:19 |
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As long as they spare us from an Agent Carter-Howard Stark love triangle I will be happy.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:20 |
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Xtanstic posted:As long as they spare us from an Agent Carter-Howard Stark love triangle I will be happy. Peggy said she married someone that Cap rescued, so you're safe there.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:23 |
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Codependent Poster posted:Peggy said she married someone that Cap rescued, so you're safe there. She didn't get married as soon as Cap hit the water. There is plenty of time for the show to bore us with her love life.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:38 |
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ToastyPotato posted:She didn't get married as soon as Cap hit the water. There is plenty of time for the show to bore us with her love life. It's that peaked hat she wears. That's the love of her life.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 00:44 |
Love it if it was Trip's grandpa, just to tie it into the show. Or if they were really brave and didn't waste screen time on the mandatory romance. It'll probably be Dum Dum, though.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 01:27 |
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BrianWilly posted:Is he utterly spectacular in some parts of the world or something? I think the only other thing I've seen him in is Mamma Mia. I liked him in that movie where he plays both Saddam Hussein's son and his doppelganger.
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# ? Oct 1, 2014 01:39 |
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BrianWilly posted:a huge part of the response was people going "OOOH MAYBE NOW WE'LL GET TO SEE MORE HOWARD!!" and I'm like Well to be fair, Guardians of the Galaxy actually did make me want to see more Howard... a different Howard. Stabbey_the_Clown posted:I think the show does get better re-watching it, because a surprising amount of stuff either comes back, or is set up to come back in the future. You can see where the little bits of stuff Ward feeds to Garrett comes from. It actually ties in together a lot more than it appeared to on the first run. That's the hardest thing because I'd like to tell people "skip all but the last 6 of season 1 and you'll be be good" but yeah, all the lame "plot of the week" stuff actually ends up becoming super important, and it really does reward you for sticking with all of it. A few episodes take on an ENTIRELY different angle once you realize what's up with Ward, too, like the Staff episode or the Loreli episode. It even makes Ward getting possessed kind of logical in retrospect; dude wanted to rope in an all powerful ally and really DID give zero shits about the team. I still remember people groaning and eye rolling when it turns out Ward was into Skye. Holy poo poo did that get turned on it's head. Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 01:54 on Oct 1, 2014 |
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