Raskolnikov38 posted:

Fox must screen for some untapped reserve of control in their guests for them not to flip out and start attacking Doocy when he pulls this poo poo.

Dreylad posted:

Mormon feminism 40 years later.

quote:

Wells became an early advocate of women's rights, writing under the name "Blanche Beechwood" for the Woman's Exponent. "I believe in women, especially thinking women," she wrote. Wells was chief editor of the Women's Exponent newspaper for 37 years, beginning in 1877. In addition to reporting news of the Mormon Women's Relief Society, she used the publication to support woman suffrage and educational and economic opportunities for women. As editor, she became known for her executive talents and her superb memory.

Wells was active in the national women's suffrage movement, where she served as liaison between Mormon and non-Mormon women and fielded hostile criticism associated with the practice of polygamy. On the national level, she was closely associated with both Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony. For nearly thirty years she represented Utah women in the National Woman Suffrage Association and the National and International Councils of Women. Beginning in 1879, with her attendance at a suffrage convention in Washington, D.C., Wells acted as a lobbyist for Utah interests. She met congressmen and presidents and addressed the issues of polygamy and women's suffrage from the Utah woman's point of view. Wells was also involved in the ultimately successful effort to restore suffrage to Utah women in the 1896 Utah state constitution. In 1899, Wells was invited by the International Council of Women to speak in London as a representative of the United States.

Beginning in 1879, Wells advocated that women be granted the right to hold office in Utah Territory. In 1878, she had turned down a nomination for Salt Lake County Treasurer from the People's Party because women were not eligible to hold office in the territory. In 1879 she, along with Sarah M. Kimball, urged Governor George Emery to support women holding office, which he declined, and in 1880 she was the leading force involved in convincing Charles W. Penrose to introduce legislation to grant women the ability to hold office.[5]

In 1893 Wells was elected president of the Utah Territorial Women's Suffrage Association.[6]

After Utah gained statehood, Wells did run for election. In a much publicized election, the 66-year-old Wells stood as one of several "at large" Republican candidates for state senator from Salt Lake County. Martha Hughes Cannon, a physician and former employee at the Women's Exponent, was one of five Democrats running for the office. On November 3, 1896, Cannon defeated the field, and became the first woman ever elected as a state senator in the United States.

Warcabbit posted:

Forty? Meet my something-great aunt who ran off with Joseph Smith. She was a suffragette. She corresponded with Susan B. Anthony. She ran for Senate.
Oh, and she was a huge proponent of polygamy.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_B._Wells


She believed that polygamy enabled the family to have one wife to do the housework and take care of the children, freeing the first wife up for intellectual pursuits.
It's an interesting commentary on how much we owe to labor saving devices of the modern era.

zoux posted:

Badger of Basra posted:

who are the ladies who post on r/mensrights

zoux posted:

I left out a whole bunch actually!!!

The Warszawa posted:

What are "paper abortion" and "male disposability"? Though I think I learned how to make paper abortions in elementary school arts and crafts.

The Warszawa posted:

What are "paper abortion" and "male disposability"? Though I think I learned how to make paper abortions in elementary school arts and crafts.

Raskolnikov38 posted:

selfie is the dumbest goddamn word and I hate it

did the term even exist before Mandela's funeral?

Randler posted:

Never heard of paper abortions, but male disposability refers to the idea that the lifes of men are valued less and it is considered acceptable to put them in dangerous situations. (i.e. "Women and children first", "There have been x victims, 3 being women and children", Focus on female victims of crime and war, etc)

Badger of Basra posted:

are you serious

zoux posted:

The first is where you sign a legal document opting out of fatherhood.

I'm assuming the latter is where all the women decide en masse that men are unnecessary and do away with us all and IVF eachother and live in lesbian paradise forever (lesbian paradise is also my paradise )

The Warszawa posted:

I thought you could relinquish parental rights to custody and such pretty easily, it just doesn't abrogate liability for support payments. Oh wait it all makes sense now.

zoux posted:

I'm shocked that sperm jacking isn't under there.

The Warszawa posted:

This is one of those rabbit holes I'm going to regret going down, isn't it?

The Warszawa posted:

This is one of those rabbit holes I'm going to regret going down, isn't it?

zoux posted:

You know that ep of The Good Wife where Recurring Psychopath guy knocks up the Chick from Firefly because he gave her an oral "gift" and she turkey bastered it in her self?

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yes. Yes it is.

zoux posted:

Androc posted:

95% listed as atheist/agnostic, 5% support "homosexual marriage." This just raises so many more questions.

zoux posted:

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

zoux posted:

You know that ep of The Good Wife where Recurring Psychopath guy knocks up the Chick from Firefly because he gave her an oral "gift" and she turkey bastered it in her self?

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

The situation where a dude is raped then forced to pay child support has more to do with making sure the kid has, well, support than as a way of punishment, at least in theory. Of course, it's still lovely and the only way I can see avoiding that is some kind of minimum income.

zoux posted:

It's also utterly minuscule in comparison to the number and impact of men raping women so when you are trying to talk about sexual violence against women and some fat virgin is like "ahem men also get raped" in like the nerdiest nasal voice imaginable they are not trying to contribute in good faith.

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

The situation where a dude is raped then forced to pay child support has more to do with making sure the kid has, well, support than as a way of punishment, at least in theory. Of course, it's still lovely and the only way I can see avoiding that is some kind of minimum income.

My Imaginary GF posted:

The appropriate response isn't to say "shutup its not an issue," its to acknowledge the concern and put in place adequate protections for victims of all rape.

SubponticatePoster posted:

I work for child support. Not aware of this particular situation occurring, but there would be ways around it. If there was a court case and conviction, then the rapist would (hopefully) be sent to jail. Then the mother would not have custody while incarcerated and not legally be entitled to receive support. If a relative or the mother applied for support or public assistance the father could ask the case be closed for what we refer to as "administrative good cause." The custodian could still get cash from the state so the child is supported but we wouldn't go after dad for it.

Now if there was no court case it would be more difficult. Theoretically he could still ask for good cause, and get it granted if he could get a protective order against the woman. But since our justice system is so lovely for rape victims of either gender that might not happen

Yeah, basically this. Rape is awful and the system is biased against victims regardless of gender.

My Imaginary GF posted:

Guys theres an actual mainstream republican in the Illinois polithread.

zoux posted:

I have a friend in jail right now for failure to pay child support. And he works seven days a week and he still couldn't make payments. After he gets out he's going to have to go live with his parents for the forseeable future. So I know how illogical and punitive child support requirements can be.

However, people use the above and other things to completely minimize the gulf between male and female privilege. The problem isn't that "men's rights" are being ignored, it's that any discussion of feminism on the internet gets hijacked by the #notallmen brigade.



linx0rz

My Imaginary GF posted:

There are serious issues which require MRAs. Like when a man is raped while underage and then ordered to pay child support.