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bUm posted:It sounds like they've been failing pretty hard on "plane vs plane FM works" recently. Tank vs. tank does work... and almost nobody plays because of extraneous factors (AB is and always has been bad; RB still nametag hunter 2014; SB still minimap hunter 2014 + arty hack mode + you can't get a game outside Russian primetime because CASB killed the playerbase for it by being mind-numbingly boring; maps are "blah" and really matter, unlike in planes). Plane vs plane has been very well balanced since shifting to the Era system. Yes, there are times where you can shoot all of your bullets into a plane and not do poo poo to it. There are also times where you can shoot a PBY with an Ishak and kill it in a single pass. These issues with the damage model may be annoying but they really don't matter overall because you have to literally out-fly your opponent to even get into the position to shoot at them in the first place. Since this game allows full 360 view and mouse aim, if you ever manage to reach this position you should never lose the advantage outside of pilot error without your target doing some kind of  poo poo or another plane/AAA peeling you off them.There are also OP as gently caress planes like the Hellcat and shitshows like the 262s. The great planes are basically easymode but are far from invincible because this is a team game. The lovely planes are hardmode but can generally still shoot stuff down if given the opportunity. The Arado actually does just plain suck but it's fun to ram people. The grind might be terrible but every single nation in the game has at least one plane at every Era that is absolutely competitive in any gamemode.
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Oct 3, 2014 03:15
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Some could seriously argue that Era I Germany/Britain suck but oh no grind like an hour or two of kills and you have some of the best planes in the game for their tier. (Spit IIb & 109 F-2)
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Oct 3, 2014 03:19
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The current event is like some kind of bizarro Pearl Harbor.
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Thief posted:Some could seriously argue that Era I Germany/Britain suck but oh no grind like an hour or two of kills and you have some of the best planes in the game for their tier. I don't have a lot of sympathy for folks whining about "the grind" when biplanes are fun as gently caress in arcade. Kids just don't appreciate them are the good times 
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Oct 3, 2014 03:43
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The Gladiator is the best one because closed canopies rule.
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chairface posted:I don't have a lot of sympathy for folks whining about "the grind" when biplanes are fun as gently caress in arcade. Kids just don't appreciate them are the good times Biplanes are even more fun in RBs. Shooting some some rear end in a top hat's BF-109 with a one of the crappier British biplanes was always funny.
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Gimnbo posted:The current event is like some kind of bizarro Pearl Harbor. The current event is loving amazing. Every match turns into an insane, massive furball. Thought I was doing lovely one match, died twice before my first kill... and then loving blam, 14 kills. Every idiot and their friend is flying in straight lines trying to gun people down like a conga line of idiocy, so you can just swoop in and rip people to shreds.
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Gaijin posted:Or, for example, the B-17E, that fought in 1942 and B-17G from 1943 – it is a powerful foe for the most fighters that are armed with low-calibre armaments (it wasn’t by accident that there was a project to use the B-17 as a “fighter hunter” for bomber cover).  Pretty sure the relevant accident was a lack of long-range escort fighters, not its potential as a "fighter hunter". This is even dumber than their old I-15 vs B-17Es argument.
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Darwinism posted:The current event is loving amazing. Every match turns into an insane, massive furball. Thought I was doing lovely one match, died twice before my first kill... and then loving blam, 14 kills. Every idiot and their friend is flying in straight lines trying to gun people down like a conga line of idiocy, so you can just swoop in and rip people to shreds. Uh, what event is this?
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Why don't they just make Kursk into the only mixed battle? The other ones are boring as poo poo and consist of me vs. four tigers as my teammates fly in circles above without bomb loads.AceRimmer posted:
Wasn't there a variant of the B-17 that was meant to be a bomber escort, but was too slow to keep up with the bombers it was escorting? Plan Z fucked around with this message at 05:38 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Plan Z posted:Why don't they just make Kursk into the only mixed battle? The other ones are boring as poo poo and consist of me vs. four tigers as my teammates fly in circles above without bomb loads. Because Gaijin doesnt play their own game.
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Bort Bortles posted:Uh, what event is this? The one I didn't read and therefor didn't see starts until tomorrow! Fortunately, pubbies share my reading comprehension and are acting like it's on
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Plan Z posted:Why don't they just make Kursk into the only mixed battle? The other ones are boring as poo poo and consist of me vs. four tigers as my teammates fly in circles above without bomb loads. 
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Yeah it turns out having an escort that barely matches your bombers' fully loaded speed doesn't work out all that hot once the bombers aren't fully loaded.
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I just had an intense match on Alternate Berlin, and got 6 kills... 7 if you count accidental friendly kills (Sorry Roumba) in my Yak-3P. Sadly two of those kills we First on the climb up we encounter a B-25 with a P-38 escort just behind it. They're only a little below me so I dive on them and the P-38 goes up in flames, I'm now coming up fast behind the B-25 and fill it full of cannon and it too goes up in flames. The rest of the squad scrambles to get assists on them as they go down, and I head back to base to repair my fuel leak and restock my ammo. Unfortunately there's a P-47 engaging ground targets a couple of km from the Aerodrome so Roumba helpfully provides cover. I repair and suddenly a corsair is coming at us. Roumba keeps it distracted just long enough for me to get safe and then we engage it. Roumba runs out of ammo so starts heading back to base. Meanwhile I'm chasing down this low and slow Corsair. unfortunately the corsair was chasing Roumba at this point and some shells went wide and insta-gibbed Roumba. RIP. I finish off the corsair after some of dat pilot poo poo. Harder than it sounds because being a carrier plane the corsair can fly at surprisingly slow speeds without falling like a rock. Having down another pair of planes (Once again sorry) I'm low on ammo again so RTB once more. At this point Inkwell has gone off searching for the enemies and encounters more than he bargained for. I'm racing back as fast as I can but he goes down in flames while I'm still a few kilometres out. I dive on the F6F that killed him and take out his tail controls, causing him to pitch up and then loop back into the ground a minute later. Next up there's a P-40 around. I'm chasing this guy around for a few minutes, keep getting hits on him but nothing seems to be connecting with the important parts of his plane. Suddenly the second last enemy plane comes out of nowhere, another P-38, just a little above me coming straight at us. I disengaged the P-40, barrel rolled into the head-on and get on his tail. A couple of bursts later and he's taken a few hits and is leaking fuel. Still flying fine though, but I'm precariously low on ammo. Another burst hits his oil cooler but I'm down to five shots. Fortunately, he bailed out 30s later, but I didn't get credit for that. It was down to the a Pe-2 that had been cleaning up the ground targets and myself vs the P-40. I wagered he'd gone back to repair, and I desperately needed ammo so I too went back to base and landed a third time having down another pair of planes and crippled a third. The Pe-2 lazily strafed enemy ground targets in the middle racking up a huge kill streak. I encounter the P-40 again in the middle, I am above him and faster so I loop up and over higher and come back down on him. With an 8 round burst straight into the engine he lights up in brilliant flames for a minute before petering out. Still tenaciously clinging to the air, I put a few more rounds into him and and engine goes out. No longer able to maintain altitude he gently lands in the field below and the match ends.... once again without a kill credit. Lame. Well regardless, it was a hell of a double. Instantly spaded out my Yak-3P and then some. edit: Roumba's Demise: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4v92zIBrP4 Shanakin fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Bearcats, man. Love them. I have the 1B now. Delicious.
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:Biplanes are even more fun in RBs. Shooting some some rear end in a top hat's BF-109 with a one of the crappier British biplanes was always funny. Conversely, taking the first spit or 109 as your top plane means you get a chance to be an absolute shark.
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BBJoey posted:Yeah it turns out having an escort that barely matches your bombers' fully loaded speed doesn't work out all that hot once the bombers aren't fully loaded. Did you know you can choose to fly at less than 100%/WEP? It even saves fuel.
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Premium chaika is the best plane ever in arcade and rb. Haven't tried it yet in Sim but it sure is fun effortlessly out turning zeroes. Also rocketing planes in the face when they try to head on you. The incredibly low stall speed is also great to troll with in rb (it takes off at 80kph)
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Palicgofueniczekt posted:Did you know you can choose to fly at less than 100%/WEP? It even saves fuel. Save fuel < Always go FASTER
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So I finally got my X55 and trackir5. Now I need some goons to watch me crash and die horribly.
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Current Event: MALTA shouldn't be able to lose this event. They still manage to do it. This is also a "good" opportunity to fly the Spit Vc.
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Palicgofueniczekt posted:Did you know you can choose to fly at less than 100%/WEP? It even saves fuel. Well I'm not an Allied airforce procurement agent but I'm thinking that having to run your bombers at less than max speed as they leave enemy airspace in order to keep pace with their escorts isn't a particularly desirable situation. (I am talking about real life you know  )ps D521 missions are up. What're the pro kill grinding strats? I'm currently using T2 Russia AB and getting about a kill every 40 seconds, but I need to optimise my kpm or my mlg friends will laugh at me. BBJoey fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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BBJoey posted:Well I'm not an Allied airforce procurement agent but I'm thinking that having to run your bombers at less than max speed as they leave enemy airspace in order to keep pace with their escorts isn't a particularly desirable situation. (I am talking about real life you know Yeah, so was I. I'm also not saying it wasn't without its flaws. BadOptics posted:Save fuel < Always go FASTER IRL and even in-game, sometimes you need longer endurance. Wind resistance scales with the square of velocity, work is force times distance...: 2x the speed requires 8x the power. "Get FASTER" is conditional. Corky Romanovsky fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Palicgofueniczekt posted:IRL and even in-game, sometimes you need longer endurance. Wind resistance scales with the square of velocity, work is force times distance...: 2x the speed requires 8x the power. "Get FASTER" is conditional. Somebody get this guy a time machine, he's onto something!
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Yeah...playing arcade with pubbies to get this poo poo French plane isn't worth it. Time to go back to RB.
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BadOptics posted:Yeah...playing arcade with pubbies to get this poo poo French plane isn't worth it. Time to go back to RB. T2 Russian planes, 10 kills a game. Get it done.
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My Russian P-39N is gonna get a lot of use this morning.
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Have they still not fixed the hit detection on big guns? My Aircobra cannon feels all over the place this morning, and I used to be really good at using it in Arcade.
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:Have they still not fixed the hit detection on big guns? My Aircobra cannon feels all over the place this morning, and I used to be really good at using it in Arcade. Yak9's cannons are working fine at the moment.
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Commandante posted:That looks awesome man! This gives me an idea. Anyway here is another one. This one is for the people who like the plane base metal look of the Zero.   Download: http://live.warthunder.com/post/54039/ BubbaGrace fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Plan Z posted:Wasn't there a variant of the B-17 that was meant to be a bomber escort, but was too slow to keep up with the bombers it was escorting? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YB-40_Flying_Fortress  Couldn't keep up with the bombers on the way back, but it looked drat sexy 
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American Madmen posted:Guns: 18 (or more) × .50 in (12.7 mm) Browning M2 machine guns. Typically used 14-16, with room for up to 30. Make it a premium plane.
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Tank Boy Ken posted:Current Event: MALTA If you want to learn how to turn fight in a 109 like Marsielle, this is the event to do it in. The 109F's can run circles around Spit V's.
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Thief posted:If you want to learn how to turn fight in a 109 like Marsielle, this is the event to do it in. The 109F's can run circles around Spit V's. I'm pretty sure the Spit Vc can turn tighter (until it's bleed off all energy). I do agree that the 109F is the better plane. And you should never be in a situation in which the Spit V holds more energy. It's climb rate is laughable compared to the F4. Also: D.521 (2nd kill achievement). My thanks go to all  pilots in their Corsairs, Mustangs, Beercans and Spitfires. Thanks for flying in straight lines and entering rolling scissors with a Me410 B6/R3. Thanks. Without em I'd never would have multiple rounds with 5 fighter kills each. 
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The Malta event reminded me why I tend to forget about the existence of the Spit V. I look at my lineup and I'm like "Spit IIb, then next one up is... Spit F IX."
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mlmp08 posted:Somebody get this guy a time machine, he's onto something! Can't. In order to go fast enough to travel back in time, it'd use up too much fuel. 
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Because you want kills, and winning isn't a concern, for this event you should play American to have undertiered planes and teammates that can't get them before you. Having half your teammates crash without doing anything leaves you to clean up most of the enemy team, which in this situation is actually helpful. Wooper fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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