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He was on Hannity last night saying that he should receive copies of the Presidential Daily Briefings.
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drat you, I just came here to post this exciting news about Blanche!
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Oct 3, 2014 14:04
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Joementum posted:He was on Hannity last night saying that he should receive copies of the Presidential Daily Briefings.
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Oct 3, 2014 14:09
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Fulchrum posted:I dunno. Remember, when they heard about him making a sane, reasonable pick for an experienced VP, they hated it and demanded a crazy lady who lived in the snow looking at Russia. I just figured Palin was a pathetic bid to snag women's votes by being all "hey look we don't hate women, we made one a veep candidate!" in response to the Democrats putting up a black man. It just turned out they didn't do their homework and Palin was a literally insane person that's barely qualified for anything more complex than "carry an object from place to another."
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Oct 3, 2014 14:13
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There are bowties spinning across South Carolina.
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Oct 3, 2014 14:26
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I just figured Palin was a pathetic bid to snag women's votes by being all "hey look we don't hate women, we made one a veep candidate!" in response to the Democrats putting up a black man. It just turned out they didn't do their homework and Palin was a literally insane person that's barely qualified for anything more complex than "carry an object from place to another." Even then she'd quit before she reached the end.
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Oct 3, 2014 14:27
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ReindeerF posted:There are bowties spinning across South Carolina. Also, coastal weather patterns are being affected by excessive perspiration dabbing and hand-powered fanning.
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Oct 3, 2014 15:31
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I'm correct in thinking he'd have no shot at the primary, right? Because he's got the same sort of undeserved "moderate" cred McCain has, so I'm hopeful he runs and gets spanked and then that's it. But he's from SC, so he's guaranteed to win that primary, so...? I'd really hate to see folks try to put him up as a "Unity 2016" candidate or something.
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Oct 3, 2014 15:34
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He's not especially well liked in SC and wouldn't be guaranteed a primary win, though likely he'd be in the top three or so. He only won his primary this year because the wingnuts crowded the field and split the opposition. It's also an open question how his, ah, personal life would be handled in a GOP primary.
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Oct 3, 2014 15:44
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Joementum posted:It's also an open question how his, ah, personal life would be handled in a GOP primary. Easy, you Dimocraps are the real bigots for assuming an effeminate perpetual bachelor named Lindsey is a gay.
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Oct 3, 2014 15:49
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I wouldn't put push polling and insinuation past his primary opponents. There's plenty of precedent for that, particularly in South Carolina.
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Oct 3, 2014 15:54
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The squawking matches between him and Rand Paul will be well worth price of admission!
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Oct 3, 2014 15:58
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Joementum posted:It's also an open question how his, ah, personal life would be handled in a GOP primary. Only Nixon could go to China.
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Oct 3, 2014 16:13
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The thing about SC is that it comes after IA, NH and NV, (or does it precede Nevada too?,) and if Graham wipes out in those then SC won't back a loser. Iowa and New Hampshire in particular walk to their own beats but SC tends to be a follower. If he can soak up moderate votes in NH or somehow use a divided field to sneak into a top position in Iowa then he'd probably have a pretty good shot at winning his own state.quote:By privately coming to them with the same criticism he would have after the fact?
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Oct 3, 2014 16:14
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I just figured Palin was a pathetic bid to snag women's votes by being all "hey look we don't hate women, we made one a veep candidate!" in response to the Democrats putting up a black man. It just turned out they didn't do their homework and Palin was a literally insane person that's barely qualified for anything more complex than "carry an object from place to another." If I remember Game Change correctly, McCain's team wanted a woman, and after Condoleezza Rice turned them down it got desperate. There's a scene where McCain tells someone they're going with Palin, and he replies "Pawlenty? Good choice." "Not Pawlenty, Palin. Sarah Palin." "Who?"
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Oct 3, 2014 16:24
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Cliff Racer posted:The thing about SC is that it comes after IA, NH and NV, (or does it precede Nevada too?,) The current calendar is: Jan 18: Iowa caucuses Jan 26: New Hampshire primary Feb 2: Colorado and Minnesota caucuses, New York and Utah primaries Feb 6: Nevada caucuses Feb 13: South Carolina primary Feb 16: North Carolina NY and UT will almost certainly get moved into March to bring them into compliance with the DNC and RNC rules. NC will probably also get moved, but if it doesn't, SC is going to hop earlier, possibly to Feb 6.
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Oct 3, 2014 16:27
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Joementum posted:It's also an open question how his, ah, personal life would be handled in a GOP primary. Seriously, the guy has no personal life that's detectable, though his background is, frankly, pretty admirable. It's his politics that I hate.
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Oct 3, 2014 16:52
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ReindeerF posted:I don't think it's any of our business what Lindsey does when he's not guffawing on the plane with McCain or shopping for seersucker suits. I agree with you. I don't think the GOP primary electorate will.
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Oct 3, 2014 17:11
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ReindeerF posted:I don't think it's any of our business what Lindsey does when he's not guffawing on the plane with McCain or shopping for seersucker suits. As should be the case for all non-terrible people, but remember who his base is more or less entirely comprised of.
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Oct 3, 2014 17:15
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I just figured Palin was a pathetic bid to snag women's votes by being all "hey look we don't hate women, we made one a veep candidate!" in response to the Democrats putting up a black man. It just turned out they didn't do their homework and Palin was a literally insane person that's barely qualified for anything more complex than "carry an object from place to another." Yeah they were going for a gimmick that looked okay on paper but did literally zero research, an hour's conversation with her would have revealed the simple truth that she's a crazy idiot.
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Oct 3, 2014 18:40
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Zwabu posted:Yeah they were going for a gimmick that looked okay on paper but did literally zero research, an hour's conversation with her would have revealed the simple truth that she's a crazy idiot. So why Palin and not one of the other handful of powerful Republican women. Not crazy right winger enough?
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PhilippAchtel posted:So why Palin and not one of the other handful of powerful Republican women. Not crazy right winger enough? They wanted someone anti-abortion, and all of the female Republican senators at the time were pro-choice.
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Oct 3, 2014 19:09
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PhilippAchtel posted:So why Palin and not one of the other handful of powerful Republican women. Not crazy right winger enough? Not crazy enough to sign onto a Republican ticket immediately after Bush finished dragging their party through the poo poo, during a financial crash caused by Republican policies, and going up against a once-in-a-generation charismatic politician with some serious campaign staff. It's really hard to overstate the mandate or "political capital" that Obama squandered. He had about as much going for him as FDR did the first time he was elected. The rest of the world literally awarded Obama a Nobel Peace Prize in anticipation of the great things he was gonna do (and also for not being another Republican, i.e. the things he wasn't going to do). e: And yeah McCain was dead set on a pro-life ticket. Paul MaudDib fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Oct 3, 2014 19:11
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ReindeerF posted:I don't think it's any of our business what Lindsey does when he's not guffawing on the plane with McCain or shopping for seersucker suits. This is Republicans we're talking about. They're the party that thinks McCarthyism was a drat fine idea that should never have ended and anybody that seems even the slightest bit gay obviously is and must be thrown under a bus.
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Oct 3, 2014 19:13
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I'm for it. Mrs. McCain for President. You know you want it, there would be cotillions and juleps.
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Oct 3, 2014 19:16
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Joementum posted:I wouldn't put push polling and insinuation past his primary opponents. There's plenty of precedent for that, particularly in South Carolina. Well no duh of course. When it's the tribe it doesn't matter. Once an outsider tries to pull the same act they'll turn into the HRC.
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Paul MaudDib posted:And yeah McCain was dead set on a pro-life ticket. McCain really doesn't care that much about abortion.
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FMguru posted:McCain wanted his buddy Joe Lieberman as his VP, only to be vetoed on that by his advisers and party elders because Lieberman was pro-choice and they feared a base revolt. McCain stuck with trying to get Lieberman on the ticket for so long that by the time he finally gave up on that, it was just before the convention and they had to make a choice on short notice (which is why they only spent 15 minutes vetting Palin - they didn't have enough time to do a more thorough background check or conduct more interviews). Why'd he abort his 2008 campaign then?
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Oct 3, 2014 19:43
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ToxicSlurpee posted:They're the party that thinks McCarthyism was a drat fine idea that should never have ended and anybody that seems even the slightest bit gay obviously is and must be thrown under a bus. And also that a guy who expresses the slightest bit of interest or attraction to another guy is irreversibly and completely gay, while a woman who does the same thing is just experimenting and hasn't met the right guy yet.
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Oct 3, 2014 19:45
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Paul MaudDib posted:Not crazy enough to sign onto a Republican ticket immediately after Bush finished dragging their party through the poo poo, during a financial crash caused by Republican policies, and going up against a once-in-a-generation charismatic politician with some serious campaign staff. FDR had a 62% Democratic Senate (with no routine filibuster) and a 72% Democratic House at his inauguration. At his height, a little over a year later, he had an 81% Democratic Senate and a 77% Democratic House. Obama had a 57% Democratic (and independent) Senate and a 58% Democratic House at his inauguration. He didn't really have as much going for him as FDR. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 19:52 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Oct 3, 2014 19:50
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Cythereal posted:And also that a guy who expresses the slightest bit of interest or attraction to another guy is irreversibly and completely gay, while a woman who does the same thing is just experimenting and hasn't met the right guy yet. Let's also not forget that a promiscuous man is just reaping the benefits of being important/manly/handsome/wealthy/a man while a promiscuous woman is an irredeemable slut that must be punished.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:03
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I was being facetious about Graham. Gay bait that fucker all you want, he's certainly voted to cause enough misery for gay people and standing-where-a-drone-strike-hits people and so on. If his slack jawed yokel of an electorate gets up in a dander because he's a dandy the more power to you. The thing I find fascinating about him is that his personal life, as much as I've ever been able to detect, really is spotless and his background exemplary. I wouldn't be at all shocked if he's one of these completely repressed gay dudes who just lives a life of total celibacy because he has to in that generation. Which is, you know, kinda sad.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:39
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ReindeerF posted:I was being facetious about Graham. Gay bait that fucker all you want, he's certainly voted to cause enough misery for gay people and standing-where-a-drone-strike-hits people and so on. If his slack jawed yokel of an electorate gets up in a dander because he's a dandy the more power to you. Or is possibly keeping his gay a secret. How many times has an anti-gay Republican politician been caught loving a guy in a bathroom somewhere at this point?
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Oct 3, 2014 20:42
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How much would it cost to outfit a campaign bus with a fainting couch anyway?
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Oct 3, 2014 20:49
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/\/\/\ lolToxicSlurpee posted:Or is possibly keeping his gay a secret. How many times has an anti-gay Republican politician been caught loving a guy in a bathroom somewhere at this point?
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My favorite part is when he bashed Rubioquote:In our interview, Graham repeatedly spoke of the challenges that will face the next president because of the mistakes made under Obama. And he suggested that he might just be the one to fix them. It doesn't have anything to do with a potential presidential run but he just pulled out all debates for his senate run. Anyways, no way he runs. There are to many skeletons in his closet (not just being maybe gay). SC politics is some of the dirtiest, infact there is a big probe starting up that will probably take down most of the state gov't. lamentable dustman fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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ToxicSlurpee posted:I just figured Palin was a pathetic bid to snag women's votes by being all "hey look we don't hate women, we made one a veep candidate!" in response to the Democrats putting up a black man. It just turned out they didn't do their homework and Palin was a literally insane person that's barely qualified for anything more complex than "carry an object from place to another." Was McCains record on women's rights and equality really that bad pre-2008? It seems like the absolutely crazy misoginystic poo poo has happened in the last 6 years or so, were they really that much of an anti-woman party back then? Granted, just the optics of running two white men after the Dem primary had been a woman and a black man would look bad, but had McCain specifically, and the party at large, done much to make that worse back then? Kalman posted:I agree with you. I don't think the GOP primary electorate will. So all he needs is to get hitched. Is June Lockhart still alive?
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Oct 3, 2014 21:10
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ToxicSlurpee posted:Or is possibly keeping his gay a secret. How many times has an anti-gay Republican politician been caught loving a guy in a bathroom somewhere at this point? Actually not very often but people love to cling to the few public examples because even progressives still love to say 'hey I don't like you, you human being'.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:18
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Fulchrum posted:Was McCains record on women's rights and equality really that bad pre-2008? It seems like the absolutely crazy misoginystic poo poo has happened in the last 6 years or so, were they really that much of an anti-woman party back then? Granted, just the optics of running two white men after the Dem primary had been a woman and a black man would look bad, but had McCain specifically, and the party at large, done much to make that worse back then? 
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Graham should come out publicly in the same speech he gives to run for president so that his historical legacy is firmly secured forever. The GOP has long been on the cusp of a tipping point on acceptance of homosexuality and Lindsey Graham is that tipping point.
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