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Yawgmoth posted:My prerelease gave me a drat amazing mardu pool (butcher, a couple ponyback brigade, a pile of removal) that I went 1-3 with because no matter how or how much I shuffled I could only ever get 2 land or 12. Infuriating to get turn 1 1-drop, turn 2 2-drop, turn 3+ HURRRRRRRRRRRR. This is why people are saying to play 18 lands. Because you WILL have action at 3, and so will your opponent. theironjef posted:I thought the whole thing was that the 5 new guys are "previous legends that were not planeswalkers before but are being represented as such now." Teferi was a planeswalker, pre-mending. He surrendered his spark as part of the mending process. His power-level was comparable with Urza, but he didn't really want to mess with trying to fight Phyrexia. EDIT: Madmarker posted:He really does. However, he couldn't be a planeswalker, as he was never able to acquire a spark, nor did he have one inherently. So what would he be, a creature? An enchantment? I mean, he WAS the original plane of Phyrexia. What? No. He was a pawn of an actual evil planeswalker, Leshrac, who got chumped out by Urza during Apocalypse.
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Fish Of Doom posted:Lim Dul's probably more likely, but I really want a mono-black Yawgmoth. He really deserves a proper card. He really does. However, he couldn't be a planeswalker, as he was never able to acquire a spark, nor did he have one inherently. So what would he be, a creature? An enchantment? I mean, he WAS the original plane of Phyrexia.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:01
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redstormpopcorn posted:I think Gerrard was technically a Planeswalker for a quarter of a second while the Legacy Weapon was exploding. I'd say anyone that commands the Weatherlight should count as a planeswalker, right? I mean it's a little jankier than just changing planes with your mage brain, but it's still a plane-hopping flying ship the guy is totally in charge of.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:02
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Entropic posted:I basically only do sealed at pre-releases so I have months to forget how stupidly swingy a format it is. You really need both luck and skill for sealed. It's super fun when you open a good pool, but then you get the crappy pools where you can maybe grind out wins at first but you will just never beat a skilled player with an actually good pool. As opposed to the other formats of Magic where you don't both need luck and skill...
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Oct 3, 2014 20:03
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Gerrard wasn't a walker though, right? I have only the vaguest knowledge of storylines from that era, but I didn't think he was.
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Madmarker posted:He really does. However, he couldn't be a planeswalker, as he was never able to acquire a spark, nor did he have one inherently. So what would he be, a creature? An enchantment? I mean, he WAS the original plane of Phyrexia. Enchantment Creature -- God As long as your devotion to <Phyrexian mana symbols here> is less than 10 ~ isn't a creature. Cernunnos fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Oct 3, 2014 20:06
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mcmagic posted:As opposed to the other formats of Magic where you don't both need luck and skill... Every magic format requires both, but there's a huge extra helping of luck with Sealed compared to say Draft or Constructed. You're always at the mercy of what cards you draw throughout the game to some extent in any format, but with sealed there is such a thing as just having a bad pool that no amount of skill is going get you to the top table with.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:08
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Cernunnos posted:Creature Enchantment -- God I could totally get behind this. Also there are a bunch of as-yet unused characters from the whole Nine Titans assault on Phyrexia, while we're pulling from the end of old Dominaria.
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mcmagic posted:As opposed to the other formats of Magic where you don't both need luck and skill...
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Oct 3, 2014 20:10
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A skilled player with a bad sealed pool can often beat a bad player with a good sealed pool, but in enough swiss rounds you're eventually going to run up against a good player with a good pool.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:18
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mcmagic posted:As opposed to the other formats of Magic where you don't both need luck and skill... Sealed is just pack wars where bomby cards just dominate. Whether that's a good way to define the format or not is immaterial since draft exist and is about 10 times more fun.
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Yawgmoth posted:In other formats you can often use skill to offset poor luck. With sealed, if you get hosed on the card pool lottery you can just get hosed. I mean yes and no. Most of the skill in limited IS minimizing the luck element.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:22
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Emerson Cod posted:My guess for removal is that it's written up in the same format as the DCI Judge/practice tests which are technically confidential. They probably removed it due to an abundance of caution after getting legal threats for past leaks. You are correct. Thanks for that rule. I'm still trying to get confirmation from the judge list.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:23
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redstormpopcorn posted:I could totally get behind this. Man we better get a Commodore Guff.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:29
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Entropic posted:Man we better get a Commodore Guff. Dude, loving Lord Windgrace man, we NEED a Panther Planeswalker.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:30
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Jeskai's still around, right?
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Angry Grimace posted:Sealed is just pack wars where bomby cards just dominate. Whether that's a good way to define the format or not is immaterial since draft exist and is about 10 times more fun. At my store, in every prerelease, it's the same 5-6 guys who are in the top 4 all 5 events. It's much more than just luck. I really like drafting too but I feel like people use a bad pool as an excuse way too much.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:44
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Madmarker posted:Dude, loving Lord Windgrace man, we NEED a Panther Planeswalker. I am hoping for Serra anyway, but I feel like C14 is going to be disappointing anyway.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:46
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Every time a new commander set comes out I get all excited and buy one or two of the decks but then I remember that I don't actually like playing Commander very much. I think I may resist this time.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:47
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Holy poo poo this FNM draft was fun. Six of us in a pool, including a younger dude who was playing in literally his second tournament. We pay our cash, get a booster box, and figure out how to give prize packs. Two each, with the last 6 packs going 3-3 to the top two. Kid opens his right away, two fetches (Flooded Strand and Wooded Foothills, or maybe Windswept Heath). Draft happens, two more fetches get opened. He gets second place due to tiebreakers. With his second pick (we do rare redrafting), he gets the Bloodstained Mire off the table. Then he opens his packs, and cracks a Polluted Delta and one of the Khans. Not bad for the price of four boosters (17 euro each, a booster is 4 euros). Jesus.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:53
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Spiderdrake posted:Windgrace is sweet, black panther lord of urborg necromancer good guy. He is the anti-trope. My hope was just for the crew of the Weatherlight, now Planeswalkers because they are on the Weatherlight. So like Gerrard, Rofellos, Tahngarth, Urza McBlind Seer, and Crovax. And they could stick reprints or new versions of folks like Orim and Squee into their respective colors. What can I say, I'm a fan of that storyline.
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Oct 3, 2014 20:54
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Cernunnos posted:As long as your devotion to <Phyrexian mana symbols here> Someone here said it when we first got Theros spoiled - if they don't bring devotion back in the next Phyrexian block specifically to template that as "devotion to Phyrexia", they'll have missed the boat.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:01
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theironjef posted:My hope was just for the crew of the Weatherlight, now Planeswalkers because they are on the Weatherlight. I mean I am a fan as well, but none of them have "The Spark." Being a planeswalker is more than the ability to walk between planes, but a certain level of magical power that most of your above list doesn't really have. Though I would love an Urza, Planeswalker card, I've wanted that since the planeswalker type was spoiled back in Futuresight.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:04
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My guesses: White- Lord Windgrace Blue- Teferi (duh) Black- Tevesh Szat or Leshrac Red- Jaya Ballard Green- Freyalise Sadly with Teferi in Bo Levar is definitely out. Commodore Guff is definitely blue/red and so sadly can't be a card. Also he breaks the fourth wall so much he'd probably have "+1: Name a character in the Magic canon. Destroy all permanents whose art depicts that character."
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Oct 3, 2014 21:25
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Freyalise is described as dying in a giant explosion of red and green mana, so she might not be mono-colored.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:36
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They already said they aren't all legacy characters.
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theironjef posted:I thought the whole thing was that the 5 new guys are "previous legends that were not planeswalkers before but are being represented as such now." Then again, Teferi totally was, so what do I know? No it's "5 planeswalkers that never got planeswalker cards." That also excludes Yawgmoth.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:36
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ShadeofBlue posted:No it's "5 planeswalkers that never got planeswalker cards." That also excludes Yawgmoth. Oh I don't doubt that Yawgmoth is NOT one of the cards. It just sucks so awesome a character has never received his own card.
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Oct 3, 2014 21:37
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Jorath posted:You are correct. Let me know - I'm practicing for my level 1 test and these weird corner cases are great learning tools.
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In Invasion block, I would've said Yawgmoth is too powerful to be represented practically on a card. Then, Emrakul...
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Oct 3, 2014 21:52
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Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is not a practical Magic card.
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Attorney at Funk posted:Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is not a practical Magic card.
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Madmarker posted:Oh I don't doubt that Yawgmoth is NOT one of the cards. It just sucks so awesome a character has never received his own card. Yawgmoth isn't a Planeswalker either. They just had special Phyrexian magic that allowed for it. I mean I guess he could be a creature but the idea of summoning Yawgmoth for help seems weird.
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If we're making guesses, I can't imagine the white one being anyone other than Serra. She has more Commander appeal than almost any other lore figure that I can think of, maybe even including the neo-walkers.
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Yawgmoth posted:He's fun as hell with Jhoira, though. I should tweak that deck to be modern legal just to see if I can pull off turn 4 hasty Emrakul in a tournament. 4x Mountain -> Desperate Ritual -> Through the Breach? EDIT: vvv Legacy Weapon? LordSaturn fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 3, 2014 |
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Oct 3, 2014 22:09
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Kasonic posted:In Invasion block, I would've said Yawgmoth is too powerful to be represented practically on a card. Emrakul can be oblivion ring'd. The only thing that can stop yawgmoth is the combined power of pre-mending planeswalkers and a ton of powerful artifacts.
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Oct 3, 2014 22:10
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ShadeofBlue posted:No it's "5 planeswalkers that never got planeswalker cards." That also excludes Yawgmoth. That's not the theme. The theme for legendary creatures in commander 2014 is legendary creatures that never got a card. The planeswalkers on the other hand are not guaranteed to be from the past. EDIT: blogatog posted:web-brand said: Will all the planeswalkers in the Commander 2014 products be pre-Mending characters?
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I assume Glissa will be the green walker since who the gently caress are any of the other ones aside from Freyalise who's probably multicolor.
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Mortimer posted:Emrakul can be oblivion ring'd. The only thing that can stop yawgmoth is the combined power of pre-mending planeswalkers and a ton of powerful artifacts.
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Veyrall posted:Actually, was Yawgmoth himself super-powerful, or was it just his army? I mean, his will alone-
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Planeswalker Uncle Istvan or no buy.
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