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LifeSizePotato
Mar 3, 2005

Shrimpy posted:

This, combined with the fact that there still hasn't been a successor to the 1020, makes me tempted to just get an iPhone 6 in the meantime.

I'm used to MS making :psyduck: and :cripes: business and marketing decisions, but this is one that just doesn't make sense to me. You have people coming off their 2-year 1020 contracts, and you have nothing new and exciting to give them as a replacement. What can they possibly be expecting, that people are so loyal that they'll sit around for another year waiting for WP10, which will undoubtedly be 1.5 generations out of date anyway? Are they supposed to downgrade to the mid-tier scrub models? Working within the upgrade cycle timeframe seems like the basest rule when it comes to the American smartphone market.

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Doomsday Jesus
Oct 8, 2004

Doomsday Jesus we need you now.

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

I downloaded a podcast last night and I'm listening to it right now, on cyan. Have you tried a soft reset? A hard reset would probably fix it, but that's irksome depending on what version you're on.

I'm on the most current, non developer preview, update. I did a power cycle, and then did the power+volume down reset. Same issue.

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

Pretty ridiculous level of speculation to assume nothing will happen to WP until Windows 10. Relax a little bit.

Shrimpy
May 18, 2004

Sir, I'm going to need to see your ticket.

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

Pretty ridiculous level of speculation to assume nothing will happen to WP until Windows 10. Relax a little bit.

Yeah, but there's a time aspect to it. My 1020 is off-contract, so I can upgrade to a new phone today and then in a year upgrade again to whatever Windows 10 brings to the phone. Waiting another 4 months just to hear new devices get announced that won't be out for another 3 months will just suck.

And, honestly, after getting burned on the 900 (two year contract and then a month later they announce WP8 and no upgrade path), if Windows 10 exists and is coming to the phone, I'm going to be hesitant to buy any phone that doesn't come with it as the default OS.

CalvinandHobbes
Aug 5, 2004

LifeSizePotato posted:

I'm used to MS making :psyduck: and :cripes: business and marketing decisions, but this is one that just doesn't make sense to me. You have people coming off their 2-year 1020 contracts, and you have nothing new and exciting to give them as a replacement. What can they possibly be expecting, that people are so loyal that they'll sit around for another year waiting for WP10, which will undoubtedly be 1.5 generations out of date anyway? Are they supposed to downgrade to the mid-tier scrub models? Working within the upgrade cycle timeframe seems like the basest rule when it comes to the American smartphone market.

the 1020 is actually only around a year old (released july 2013). Also it didn't sell super well. The 920 however is almost exactly two years old and sold decently on ATT. Those people will be coming off their contracts. Microsoft wants them to "upgrade" to 830s. I suspect a lot of 920 users will be buying iphones.

Disclaimer, i'm a huge Nokia fanboy. I got a Samsung focus on contract, then pay full retail for a 900, then got a 920 on a contract then paid full retail for a 1020. I don't see myself upgrading to anything else other than the 1030 equivalent hopefully by next spring. My mom however is coming up to a 2 year renewal for her 920 and needs to upgrade as the battery on her phone is getting pretty bad. If the 1520 is too big for her, i'll probably recommend an iPhone 6.

wookieepelt
Jul 23, 2009

Maneki Neko posted:

Maybe try this? Seems to be a big phone 1520 version of the OMG APPLE BENDGHAZI blah blah:

http://forums.wpcentral.com/nokia-lumia-1520/297759-6.htm#post2689765

This fixed the issues for me. Thank you.

SMERSH Mouth
Jun 25, 2005

So what happened to Windows 9? We're just skipping straight to 10?


Doomsday Jesus posted:

I am at my wits end with the podcast support on this system. It never auto downloads over wifi like it used to. It loses my place when resuming a podcast. And this morning I kept getting errors when trying to play a podcast I manually downloaded last night.

Podcast support is my key feature and it is not working.

I returned my original 635 to the manufacturer for a slew of reasons including Podcasts never keeping their place, ever. Also sporadically failing to play at all without doing a soft reset.

My replacement does a better job, but Podcasts still loses its place from time to time. My new problem is that the SD card that holds my Podcasts will occasionally 'disconnect' from the phone. That and sometimes when I'm listening to audio through headphones, the device will play a warning tone, turn the volume down to about 40%, and display a "high volumes can damage your hearing" message. (I can barely hear some podcasts at 100% when I'm outside with headphones on, but that could be more of a problem with the headphones themselves.)

Oh and it also likes to suddenly start playing audio out of the headphones and the speaker simultaneously.

TL;DR: Backup and restore your phone's software, and if that doesn't work send it in for warranty replacement. You might be able to get a phone that's works slightly less bad, if you're lucky.

Wiseblood
Dec 31, 2000

SMERSH Mouth posted:

So what happened to Windows 9? We're just skipping straight to 10?

There's a rumor going around that they skipped calling it Windows 9 because there's a lot of bad code out there testing for an OS name starting with "Windows 9" and assuming 95/98.

https://searchcode.com/?q=startswith%28%22windows+9%22%29

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Wiseblood posted:

There's a rumor going around that they skipped calling it Windows 9 because there's a lot of bad code out there testing for an OS name starting with "Windows 9" and assuming 95/98.

https://searchcode.com/?q=startswith%28%22windows+9%22%29

Nah, I have a feeling it's not. Anyone who actually detects operating systems in that way deserves to have their code break.

For IE 11, Microsoft removed "Internet Explorer" from the browsers user agent string, because people would parse it out to try and detect if the browser was IE. It was done on purpose because usually that IE specific code would be old (as in, meant for IE 6) and the newer, standards based, code base would work fine. Some people bitched about it breaking legacy sites, but it's really bad coding practice to be doing browser detection stuff in the first place. You detect features, not platform/browser.

EDIT:

Besides, there has been software compatibility modes for legacy apps for some time now. If a user ever did hit that issue due to a someone who would actually write something like that, they could set the compatibility flag.

So yeah, I blame Microsoft marketing.

Drastic Actions fucked around with this message at 02:49 on Oct 2, 2014

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

CalvinandHobbes posted:

the 1020 is actually only around a year old (released july 2013). Also it didn't sell super well. The 920 however is almost exactly two years old and sold decently on ATT. Those people will be coming off their contracts. Microsoft wants them to "upgrade" to 830s. I suspect a lot of 920 users will be buying iphones.

Disclaimer, i'm a huge Nokia fanboy. I got a Samsung focus on contract, then pay full retail for a 900, then got a 920 on a contract then paid full retail for a 1020. I don't see myself upgrading to anything else other than the 1030 equivalent hopefully by next spring. My mom however is coming up to a 2 year renewal for her 920 and needs to upgrade as the battery on her phone is getting pretty bad. If the 1520 is too big for her, i'll probably recommend an iPhone 6.

Why would they be getting 830s and not 930s? The 930 is the current Nokia flagship.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012


No 930 on AT&T, Verizon has the US variant, the Icon.

The Lord Bude
May 23, 2007

ASK ME ABOUT MY SHITTY, BOUGIE INTERIOR DECORATING ADVICE

Mecca-Benghazi posted:

No 930 on AT&T, Verizon has the US variant, the Icon.

Well that was silly of Microsoft. All the carriers have the 930 here in Australia, and especially when it first came out, it seemed as though you couldn't move without seeing a billboard advertising it.

Is changing carriers out of the question?

.Tim
Jul 3, 2004

Wiseblood posted:

There's a rumor going around that they skipped calling it Windows 9 because there's a lot of bad code out there testing for an OS name starting with "Windows 9" and assuming 95/98.

https://searchcode.com/?q=startswith%28%22windows+9%22%29

It's kind of weird they went with the name but really I don't think it matters. They can call it Windows 69 if they want. Who cares as long as it's good? It's just a name. Like the weird rear end people that lost their poo poo over XBMC changing the name to Kodi despite nothing else changing people literally were saying they're uninstalling it and never using it again or finding something else.

Stick100
Mar 18, 2003

Drastic Actions posted:

Nah, I have a feeling it's not. Anyone who actually detects operating systems in that way deserves to have their code break.

Umm, OK but to users of a given system deserve to have their code break? Many of these programs would be so old it would likely be possible that they could never get the code updated. That that happened then then you'd hear that Windows 9 broke everything just like Vista and people would stick with XP/Win 7. MS is going to have a real tough time getting people off 7 and XP after Vista and 8 so doing any risk mitigation is good.

I'm just glad it wasn't called just "New Windows", as the tech people would all come up with a dozen different names.

Drastic Actions
Apr 7, 2009

FUCK YOU!
GET PUMPED!
Nap Ghost

Stick100 posted:

Umm, OK but to users of a given system deserve to have their code break? Many of these programs would be so old it would likely be possible that they could never get the code updated. That that happened then then you'd hear that Windows 9 broke everything just like Vista and people would stick with XP/Win 7.

Compatibility mode exists for a reason. Turn it on to "Windows 8" or lower mode. And as I've said in other threads about it, the chance of that actually happening is slim, considering the ways and means of getting the OS version. In nearly all the ways I know of in .NET, you'll get the actual true version number and not the marketing name, which for this preview is 6.4.9841.

And if you did actually get the true OS name, and checked for it like that... I worry about what else your code does because that scares me. But the likelihood of that being the reason is so slim, I just can't see it. Not saying it could not be, because this is Microsoft we're talking about, but I just can't comprehend that being it.

joebuddah
Jan 30, 2005
Looks like they broke Xbox music again, now it loads but its not showing any of my songs

Anonononomous
Jul 1, 2007
How can I record calls on my Win 8 phone?

Doomsday Jesus
Oct 8, 2004

Doomsday Jesus we need you now.

Anonononomous posted:

How can I record calls on my Win 8 phone?

You can't even save voice notes someone texts to you, so I doubt there is a baked in way to do this.

NFX
Jun 2, 2008

Fun Shoe
Today my phone ran out of power before 4 pm. I have very few background tasks going on (two IMAP accounts), and I certainly haven't added any in the last several weeks. The battery usage indicator thing in 8.1 reports "Alarms" as having the highest power usage. Thanks.

At least the music app seems slightly more responsive now :bravo:

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

NFX posted:

Today my phone ran out of power before 4 pm. I have very few background tasks going on (two IMAP accounts), and I certainly haven't added any in the last several weeks. The battery usage indicator thing in 8.1 reports "Alarms" as having the highest power usage. Thanks.

At least the music app seems slightly more responsive now :bravo:

Out of curiosity, what is the schedule on those IMAP accounts? I've noticed that the "let the phone decide lol" setting seemed to destroy my battery life.

NFX
Jun 2, 2008

Fun Shoe

Maneki Neko posted:

Out of curiosity, what is the schedule on those IMAP accounts? I've noticed that the "let the phone decide lol" setting seemed to destroy my battery life.

I checked, and I thought it was set to 1 hour, but it was actually "based on my usage". Data sense doesn't report any huge usage (although constantly checking for new mails wouldn't need much data). It's never been a problem before. If I had to guess, it's the music app that's doing some indexing in the background or something.

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
I made a Microsoft account for my SO's Dell Venue tablet months ago, to download Apps from the store. When she got her Nokia 820 I put the same account on it.

When I upgraded her phone to 8.1, it reset the credentials and is making me put in the new password, and for the life of me I can't remember it or find out where I wrote it down.

Is there any way to look in any caches for the password or such? It seems I stupidly used a fake mail address during the account setup procedure originally and now Microsoft won't let me recover the password at all since it wants to use my Xbox account's credit card to verify the identity but gently caress if I ever put in a credit card or even have an xbox account.

gently caress, do I just need to make a new account? Will it gently caress up all of her current applications to have to reset them to a new account?

xylo
Feb 21, 2007
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jeeves posted:

Is there any way to look in any caches for the password or such?
No.

quote:

It seems I stupidly used a fake mail address during the account setup procedure originally and now Microsoft won't let me recover the password at all since it wants to use my Xbox account's credit card to verify the identity but gently caress if I ever put in a credit card or even have an xbox account.

gently caress, do I just need to make a new account? Will it gently caress up all of her current applications to have to reset them to a new account?
Apps/Contact are tied to the account. If you used a fake information you've just hosed yourself. You can try the "forgot password" step on account.live.com and try to send a reset code via text/etc to the phone number you put on the profile. But if you used fake information there also then it's not going to work. (don't use fake information/etc on these accounts -- all it does end up hurting the user and preventing us from giving you support when you need it).

Eggnogium
Jun 1, 2010

Never give an inch! Hnnnghhhhhh!
If you ever logged into the account from a mac and saved the password I think the keychain tool lets you view it. Otherwise you're hosed.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.
I thought there was a way around it, but it takes time because you have to prove it's your account, etc. I'd call them up or try the option where it says you think someone took over your account maybe.

Anonononomous
Jul 1, 2007

Doomsday Jesus posted:

You can't even save voice notes someone texts to you, so I doubt there is a baked in way to do this.

Seriously? I was planning on doing some phone interviews for research and recording them to transcribe. Is there a good just audio recording app for Win 7? I have my old phone that I could just use as a recorder.

LentThem
Aug 31, 2004

90% Retractible
I find it frustrating that my Symbian phone that I 'upgraded' from to a Lumia has more built-in functionality, stability, battery life, and a better mic than my new phone. I'd declare it to be the better phone if any of the apps had been updated since 2012.

I still use it as my alarm clock with Sleeping Screen, because gently caress trusting a Lumia when they have a history of doing any of the following:
-Battery draining overnight by itself
-Phone freezing overnight by itself
-Alarm not firing for some reason
-Alarm firing silently for some reason

Yes, my new phone looks great and stands out as being very unique in this city where almost nobody has one, but god drat it's all the little things....

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008

Anonononomous posted:

Seriously? I was planning on doing some phone interviews for research and recording them to transcribe. Is there a good just audio recording app for Win 7? I have my old phone that I could just use as a recorder.

You can easily record a note in OneNote.

BonoMan
Feb 20, 2002

Jade Ear Joe

LentThem posted:

I find it frustrating that my Symbian phone that I 'upgraded' from to a Lumia has more built-in functionality, stability, battery life, and a better mic than my new phone. I'd declare it to be the better phone if any of the apps had been updated since 2012.

I still use it as my alarm clock with Sleeping Screen, because gently caress trusting a Lumia when they have a history of doing any of the following:
-Battery draining overnight by itself
-Phone freezing overnight by itself
-Alarm not firing for some reason
-Alarm firing silently for some reason

Yes, my new phone looks great and stands out as being very unique in this city where almost nobody has one, but god drat it's all the little things....

Yowza, my Lumias have never done any of that :(.

wormil
Sep 12, 2002

Hulk will smoke you!
My Lumia alarms and ringer are pretty quiet even with volume turned up. I almost never hear it ring even when sitting out.

Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

BonoMan posted:

Yowza, my Lumias have never done any of that :(.

920 launch firmware was atrocious and had all those problems for quite a while.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

My 920 has an issue where if I'm on the phone with another Windows Phone (my mom's 822 and my girlfriend's 1020 have this problem a lot) sometimes they stop being able to hear me unless I turn on speakerphone. I hate using speakerphone. The problem doesn't seem to come up when I'm talking to anyone who doesn't use a Windows Phone, but my mom and my girlfriend are probably the people I talk to the most often. Anyone heard of anything like this?

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

A problem no one else in the world has ever spotted with the market penetration of WP ;D

I wonder if this can be true though, suspecting confirmation bias. Certainly the network abstraction should make it more or less impossible for Windows Phone to have any effect on each other beyond getting and sending an abstract audio stream? Or is this some facetime-style extension were they manage to sidechannel something weird?

Sri.Theo
Apr 16, 2008

loquacius posted:

My 920 has an issue where if I'm on the phone with another Windows Phone (my mom's 822 and my girlfriend's 1020 have this problem a lot) sometimes they stop being able to hear me unless I turn on speakerphone. I hate using speakerphone. The problem doesn't seem to come up when I'm talking to anyone who doesn't use a Windows Phone, but my mom and my girlfriend are probably the people I talk to the most often. Anyone heard of anything like this?

I have that exact problem on my 620, but it doesn't seem limited to people on Windows Phone alone.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

A problem no one else in the world has ever spotted with the market penetration of WP ;D

I wonder if this can be true though, suspecting confirmation bias. Certainly the network abstraction should make it more or less impossible for Windows Phone to have any effect on each other beyond getting and sending an abstract audio stream? Or is this some facetime-style extension were they manage to sidechannel something weird?

Given how much my phone will not shut the gently caress up about Skype, is it possible that it's trying to use that instead of the cellular network or something equally dumb?

(Of course it's more likely there's just a problem with the microphone)

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.
My wife broke her fitbit flex and while at Target I happened to see a misfit shine on sale, so thought hey let's give it a whirl. Nope. It not only won't sync with three different windows phones, the app crashes while trying to do so repeatedly. Supposedly there's a firmware update that may fix it however you can't even get to the part where you can upgrade the firmware because the app is poorly designed. You can't get access to the tools menu unless you... sync it! Also it's new out of box and is telling me that it's already synced to someone's account, apparently that's an error you get pretty often across all devices because they are bad at coding I guess. It's too bad because there are lots of compelling reasons to like it over some others. My wife likes the look better, it lays more flush on the wrist, it can be worn on the wrist or clipped on clothes or hung via necklace. I think I'll give it another try when the cheaper plastic flash version launches later this month at $50, shown here by large head man.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1dzFVP9HCs&t=102s

OldPueblo fucked around with this message at 07:06 on Oct 6, 2014

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer
My 925 just can't deal with Bluetooth headphones. I'll turn on my headphones and it'll see the headphones and even let me increase/decrease the volume, which specifically says I'm adjusting my Bluetooth volume. But then when I actually start my music I'm entertaining everyone around me with my lovely music tastes.

I have to instead remove my headphones from the phone's pairing list and then pair them up again every time I want to listen to music wirelessly. My Android phone did 'ok' with these headphones, but it liked to skip. My old iPhone never had a problem.

I think this is going to drive me into a iPhone 6 more than anything else with WP. That and 240fps slow-mo.

OldPueblo
May 2, 2007

Likes to argue. Wins arguments with ignorant people. Not usually against educated people, just ignorant posters. Bing it.

Krispy Kareem posted:

My 925 just can't deal with Bluetooth headphones. I'll turn on my headphones and it'll see the headphones and even let me increase/decrease the volume, which specifically says I'm adjusting my Bluetooth volume. But then when I actually start my music I'm entertaining everyone around me with my lovely music tastes.

I have to instead remove my headphones from the phone's pairing list and then pair them up again every time I want to listen to music wirelessly. My Android phone did 'ok' with these headphones, but it liked to skip. My old iPhone never had a problem.

I think this is going to drive me into a iPhone 6 more than anything else with WP. That and 240fps slow-mo.

When you see it connected you should see that it's connecting with voice AND music under the bluetooth device list, I'm guessing yours is only connecting voice. That could be a bad pairing or it could be those headphones support a different audio profile or something. Every bluetooth headset I've used has successfully connected both, is your headset possibly older/lovely?

OldPueblo fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Oct 6, 2014

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Sri.Theo posted:

I have that exact problem on my 620, but it doesn't seem limited to people on Windows Phone alone.

Over the course of a recent job search I spent much more time talking to people on the phone than I can ever remember having done before, and not one of the recruiters, managers, or HR people I talked to over that time period had a single complaint. My mom brings it up every time, and my girlfriend has trouble hearing me maybe a quarter of the times we talk. Those are the two people I know who have WP phones. It's the weirdest thing.

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Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

OldPueblo posted:

When you see it connected you should see that it's connecting with voice AND music under the bluetooth device list, I'm guessing yours is only connecting voice. That could be a bad pairing or it could be those headphones support a different audio profile or something. Every bluetooth headset I've used has successfully connected both, is your headset possibly older/lovely?



No, it'll say voice and media connected. If you hit the volume rocker the screen says you are affecting Bluetooth volume. It just isn't really connected since it immediately switches to internal speakers the moment you actually play anything.

Maybe it's the headphones. They use Bluetooth 4.0 so they're certainly new enough. Like I said these headphones had issues with Android as well (playback skipped some). Problem for Microsoft is I like my headphones more than I like my Lumia.

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