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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:He's holding a mandrake plant, which is poisonous and used for different reasons throughout history, including sorcery. Edit: Hour of tanks - two hours of music. 
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:He's holding a mandrake plant, which is poisonous and used for different reasons throughout history, including sorcery. Ah, that explains the picture.
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Oct 4, 2014 15:30
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Seems like they let just about anyone into Hogwarts these days.
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Oct 4, 2014 15:52
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kalstrams posted:Mandrake is not common in Russian culture. Which makes it an interesting choice the artist made using it.
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Oct 4, 2014 16:02
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Dolash posted:Remember, because TeodorMorozov is Russian, this sentiment has a lot more legitimacy than anything we think and should be respected in a totally-not-parternalistic way. He doesn't know any better! Oh sure, why not? I'm just a forum babby  
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Oct 4, 2014 16:14
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Today 12th Saeima elections are happening in Latvia, by the way.
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Oct 4, 2014 16:41
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On the Topic of Latvia, I recently talked with a Russian Latvian about the likelihood of such a Scenario there. He deems it unlikely for a couple of reasons: 1: Most Young Latvian Russians made a half assed effort to successfully pass that language exam, rolled their eyes while doing that pledge of allegiance and thus got citizenship. They regard the EU passport as pretty drat cool, because they can travel/work in Europe in Addition to travelling/working in Russia due to the Russian passport that they also have. 2: Latvian Nationalists had their fun in the 90s, and are pretty tame now. There is no Latvian equivalent of Svoboda, Right Sector or Lyashko. Without rabid Nationalists wanting to kill you and take your stuff because you are Russian, Russia doesnt look as appealing. 3: Economic Situation is completely different. Latvia is not really Oligarch run, so no enterprising Uber-Oligarch is going to come up with glorious plans of establishing himself as "most Russian protector or all Russians" or "most Latvian Latvian ever". 4: If a Russian latvian legitimatly wins an election, he gets the power he won. Latvian authorities play if not "fair" (there is some harassment and stuff like that), then at least a lot fairer then Russian authorities. 5: There isnt much of a feeling that the place is "Russian", Russian settlement of Latvia came as a technocratic elite less then a century ago. It is not like Novorussija where it goes back a really long time.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:14
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Mightypeon posted:
Post-Holodomor isn't all that long ago.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:16
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SA_Avenger posted:If one cares for human lifes then one will always chose a path to avoid war. And therefore, since Russia has effectively declared war on Ukraine, Russia does not care about human lifes and the Ukrainian army should protect its citizens from the invading power, I'm glad you agree! Mightypeon posted:Kievans I know you have a gimmick to maintain or whatever, but come on, you can't even say this is English being hard like with you capitalizing random words. Either commit all the way and substitute Ukrainian with "Poopy bloody Stinky heads" or just use the right loving word.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:38
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Russian Settlement of "Novorussija Region" goes back way beyond that. And that Region wasnt a part of "Ukraine" until the early Bolsheviks made it a part of it. Then there is the Kievan Rus, to which Russia considers itself heir to (as do Ukrainians). If you want the analogy, Ukraine is to Russia what Austria is to Germany. The Austrian Habsburgs ruled Germany for a consdierable amount of time, "Ukrainians" (scare quotes because I the "nationality" of those guys is complex, and would propably devolve into a "no true Scotsman" context) were charge of the Soviet Union for a longer accumulated time then Russians. While there was a Thing about the latvian rifle batallions as far as recent Russian history is concerned, this just doesnt match up to the degree of interconnectedness that exists between Russia and Ukraine. Latvia in comparison is to Russia what the Czech Republic or Belgium is to Germany. Different culture, different language.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:44
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DrProsek posted:And therefore, since Russia has effectively declared war on Ukraine, Russia does not care about human lifes and the Ukrainian army should protect its citizens from the invading power, I'm glad you agree! While I certainly have some troubles with capitalizing (actually, its my loving spellchecker which I cant effing turn off), Kievans is iirc properly capitalized because it refers to a civil war faction. As far as I understand it, "Confederates" is also capitalized when you are writing about the US civil war.
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Oct 4, 2014 17:47
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Mightypeon posted:4: If a Russian latvian legitimatly wins an election, he gets the power he won. Latvian authorities play if not "fair" (there is some harassment and stuff like that), then at least a lot fairer then Russian authorities. But if they should start with things like cozying up to Putin's Russia or making Russia the second language or abolishing requirement of Latvian when applying for a citizenship, things would likely get tense.
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Oct 4, 2014 18:02
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Mightypeon posted:While I certainly have some troubles with capitalizing (actually, its my loving spellchecker which I cant effing turn off), Kievans is iirc properly capitalized because it refers to a civil war faction. As far as I understand it, "Confederates" is also capitalized when you are writing about the US civil war. And yeah, regarding the poster you quote, capitalisation is appropriate in this case, assuming that I have not been living in a lie and people from London are Londoners and not londoners.
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Oct 4, 2014 18:14
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Mightypeon posted:and seek to creat a Novorussija which is large enough to be independent of both Ukraine and Russia. Ahahahhaahhahhahhahahhahhahahah.
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Oct 4, 2014 18:16
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Exit-poll results for Latvian election: 23,8% "Vienotība" (current government leaders), 21,6%" Saskaņa" (Russian party) 19,4% Zaļo zemnieku savienība (currently in government, ties with an potentially pro-Russian local oligarch) 18,5% Nacionālā apvienība (national right-wing, currently in government) 6% Latvijas Reģionu apvienība (new-formed Latvian party) 5,4% No sirds Latvijai" (rumored as pro-Russian) A short analysis: the biggest gainer is Nacionālā apvienība, Saskaņa has fewer than excepted votes. No major changes in the current government are predicted.
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Oct 4, 2014 18:16
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I'm sad about Saskaņas centrs not coming out, thought it's a bit early to say, first but the preliminary result seems to be good enough in a broader view.
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Oct 4, 2014 18:25
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Weapons and supplies cache found near Lysychansk. https://twitter.com/EuromaidanPress/status/518441689526964224 12 Russians dead in current Donetsk airport clashes. Also reports that two members of Right Sector are dead on the Ukrainian side. http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2014/10/ukraine-says-12-rebels-killed-donetsk-2014104144315551537.html HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 19:00 on Oct 4, 2014 |
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Oct 4, 2014 18:51
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Chemtrail posted:Exit-poll results for Latvian election: I can't really comment without giving my antipathies away. NA is way too high (but that was to be expected, considering) and so is ZZS (which I think is notable because of their still relatively recent misgivins about). Let's wait for the actual count, though.
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Oct 4, 2014 19:02
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Tonton Macoute posted:I can't really comment without giving my antipathies away. NA is way too high (but that was to be expected, considering) and so is ZZS (which I think is notable because of their still relatively recent misgivins about). Let's wait for the actual count, though. To be noted, I am not willing to discuss internal politics in any but the briefest details, goal of this question is just a general curiosity about "political alignment" of Latvian goons. Edit: To be clear, whether if you have voted or have abstained is not relevant to question. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 19:22 on Oct 4, 2014 |
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Oct 4, 2014 19:18
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Mightypeon posted:It is actually very simple, as long as you have money and/or connections you can get out of either Kievan or Seperatist jail. Of course you need different connections for getting our of a seperatist jail then for getting out of a Kievan jail, the money is the same though. Ah, the insidious power of propaganda language. It's not 'Kievian', it's 'Ukrainian.' Such attempts to undermine.
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Oct 4, 2014 19:36
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Mightypeon posted:While I certainly have some troubles with capitalizing (actually, its my loving spellchecker which I cant effing turn off), Kievans is iirc properly capitalized because it refers to a civil war faction. As far as I understand it, "Confederates" is also capitalized when you are writing about the US civil war. I'm pretty sure the issue isn't that you're capitalizing Kievan as much as using that word instead of Ukrainian.
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Braking Gnus posted:I'm pretty sure the issue isn't that you're capitalizing Kievan as much as using that word instead of Ukrainian.
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Oct 4, 2014 20:51
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Mightypeon posted:While I certainly have some troubles with capitalizing (actually, its my loving spellchecker which I cant effing turn off), Kievans is iirc properly capitalized because it refers to a civil war faction. As far as I understand it, "Confederates" is also capitalized when you are writing about the US civil war. It's funny that you're trying to make the Ukrainians being slaughtered and tortured en masse by Russia's terrorists into some non-people. Not "ha ha" funny, but funny in that you're becoming increasingly bad at masking your hardon for the slaughter of innocents. And you were pretty bad before.
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Oct 4, 2014 21:32
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That plus arguing that a gradual policy of russification and settlement in Ukrainian lands is a retroactive justification for this land grab, as though "well, we've basically colonized them already, time to make it official" is ever a justification others will accept. It gets used all the time, of course, but nobody expects others to nod and say "Yes that is fair your cause is just". Arguing that Ukraine is a fake country but one literally named "New Russia" isn't actually is ha-ha funny.
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Oct 4, 2014 23:07
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I don't know if ya'll are just bad at reading things or if, as usual, people in D&D are replying to what they wish the poster had said rather than the actual post because:Mightypeon posted:Kievans is iirc properly capitalized because it refers to a civil war faction. As far as I understand it, "Confederates" is also capitalized when you are writing about the US civil war. He is using Kievan to describe the Kiev government and the people who support it. I know that most of you seem to believe that every separatist is a Russian plant but if a person hypothetically believed that there were a large number of people in the east who were opposed to the Kiev government, they would still be Ukrainians just like the people in the west!
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Oct 4, 2014 23:21
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Maarek posted:I don't know if ya'll are just bad at reading things or if, as usual, people in D&D are replying to what they wish the poster had said rather than the actual post because: If they were defining themselves by their separatism, then they wouldn't be called Ukrainians. The government of Ukraine, and its supporters, should be referred to as Ukrainians.
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Oct 4, 2014 23:23
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Except not all of them even want to separate, some just want federalization or, certain political demands, or just plain don't like the current government. Russia is exploiting their dissatisfaction to support the separatists who are a much smaller chunk of the east than people who are just pissed off at Kiev. Those people are still Ukranians even if they don't like the government in Kiev.
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Oct 4, 2014 23:30
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No one refers to Americans as "Washingtonians" or Russians as "Muscovites". Mightypeon's being dishonest.
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Oct 4, 2014 23:33
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During the American civil war people DID refer to the legitimate United States government as 'the north' or 'the union', though. If you don't think what is happening in Ukraine is a civil war you are free to disagree with him, but that does not make him dishonest.
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Oct 4, 2014 23:35
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Are you trying to paint the war in Ukraine as an East versus West civil war? Because it's not.
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Oct 4, 2014 23:42
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SoggyBobcat posted:Are you trying to paint the war in Ukraine as an East versus West civil war? Because it's not. If you want to argue with Mightypeon about why this war isn't a civil war then have at it, that's the point of this forum. Someone seeing a thing in a way that is different than your own view does not make them a liar, which is what you called him. HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:[toiletputin] All those jokes about how Eastern Europe is perpetually 20 years behind the USA culturally... I remember first seeing this in the 90s with Bill Clinton's face, but maybe that's an even older gag?
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Oct 4, 2014 23:53
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Maarek posted:All those jokes about how Eastern Europe is perpetually 20 years behind the USA culturally... I remember first seeing this in the 90s with Bill Clinton's face, but maybe that's an even older gag?
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Oct 4, 2014 23:58
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Beholde! Yon tapestre embroidered with the lykness of H.M. Queen Isabella of Spain fore the purpose of wyping thy rearmost partes.
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Oct 5, 2014 00:03
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Mightypeon posted:If you want the analogy, Ukraine is to Russia what Austria is to Germany.
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Oct 5, 2014 00:05
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Illegal Username posted:"Hitler did nothing wrong" ~ Well, he is German.
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Oct 5, 2014 00:18
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Maarek posted:Beholde! Yon tapestre embroidered with the lykness of H.M. Queen Isabella of Spain fore the purpose of wyping thy rearmost partes. Okay, I've been ragging on you but this is a pretty good one.
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Oct 5, 2014 00:20
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Maarek posted:Except not all of them even want to separate Yes, and the polite green men who'll organize a referendum on joining Russia are sure to give them between 3% and 9% of the votes.
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Oct 5, 2014 00:50
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Where can I buy this amazing thing? Do they ship by pallets? Thanks
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Mightypeon posted:While I certainly have some troubles with capitalizing (actually, its my loving spellchecker which I cant effing turn off), Kievans is iirc properly capitalized because it refers to a civil war faction. As far as I understand it, "Confederates" is also capitalized when you are writing about the US civil war. It is worth noting that the American Civil War was, in fact, a civil war and not an attempt by Spain/France/Mexico/Canada/etc to destabilize the region and create a puppet regime. It's also worth noting that Novorussia has never existed in any meaningful context but you already know that, you silly goose 
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