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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


GoodbyeTurtles posted:

I left the window open on the clio by accident last night & it rained pretty heavily.
My car is once again a mobile swimming pool. :cripes:


At least I wasn't robbed & I'd already ripped out the spongy material under the carpets that held most of the water last time it flooded.

On the plus side, french cars are known for their rust resistance, and having the carpet soaked won't compromise the floor of the car!

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GoodbyeTurtles
Aug 18, 2012

:suezo:

Powershift posted:

On the plus side, french cars are known for their rust resistance, and having the carpet soaked won't compromise the floor of the car!

Wait, you're telling me it's supposed to be rust resistant?

exempt
Dec 10, 2006
I know I missed craigslist selling chat but I just sold a $2500 car hassle free. The key was a newspaper classified ad. Craigslist seems to be mostly people wanting to haggle and trade. Whereas old people with disposable income whose granddaughter just wrecked her last car read the paper.

I had it listed online for weeks, but I sold the car within 4 days from the newspaper ad for my asking price.

dr cum patrol esq
Sep 3, 2003

A C A B

:350:

Powershift posted:

You are mistaken. it's basically 2 rods connected to each end of the handlebars, so you pull one back and push the other forward to turn.

Yeah but the left one is right in front of the right seat.

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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This just passed through my facebook feed

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203008792437144&set=vb.1124612600&type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10203008799317316&set=vb.1124612600&type=3&theater

opengl
Sep 16, 2010

dev null posted:

Yeah but the left one is right in front of the right seat.

Look in the middle, it looks like the original motorcycle seat is there.

stump
Jan 19, 2006

GoodbyeTurtles posted:

I left the window open on the clio by accident last night & it rained pretty heavily.
My car is once again a mobile swimming pool. :cripes:


At least I wasn't robbed & I'd already ripped out the spongy material under the carpets that held most of the water last time it flooded.

Could be worse, we used to have an '04 Megane estate at work that used to fill the door pockets with water overnight, rolled its own windows down (we had to pull the fuse), opened its own back door (sometimes while moving, we had to put a bungee between the tow bar and wiper).

Wolfsbane
Jul 29, 2009

What time is it, Eccles?

Powershift posted:

You are mistaken. it's basically 2 rods connected to each end of the handlebars, so you pull one back and push the other forward to turn.

Yes, but where do you sit to do that? Unless it's an optical illusion the holes seem to be central on the windscreen, so you'd have to be in the middle. Is that central bit a third seat? If so, where are your legs supposed to go? Are the other two seats decorative? If so, what's the point?

Oh wait, the windscreen isn't central, is it? So all the rain coming off the passenger side is going straight into the passenger's face?

Nohearum
Nov 2, 2013

How can you not notice that on your own?

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Wolfsbane posted:

Yes, but where do you sit to do that? Unless it's an optical illusion the holes seem to be central on the windscreen, so you'd have to be in the middle. Is that central bit a third seat? If so, where are your legs supposed to go? Are the other two seats decorative? If so, what's the point?

Oh wait, the windscreen isn't central, is it? So all the rain coming off the passenger side is going straight into the passenger's face?

It has triple seating like the McLaren F1. The driver sits in the center on the motorcycle seat and steers, and passengers go on either side in the car seats.

The windscreen is centralized but doesn't appear to go all the way across. I don't think that's a big deal though because the car vehicle also has no doors or roof.

e: I assume it still has the Fiero engine, so I wonder if it has a twist throttle or if they relocated the pedals? It has to be an automatic cause I can't think of any way you'd operate a manual transmission on that thing.

Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Oct 5, 2014

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

I'd drive it. :colbert:

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The control arms and poo poo underneath were green from over-spray. One of the stickers says something about it not being a hair dresser's car.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

The thing that pisses me off the most about that is actually the stupid loving shocker sticker. It says so, so much about the owner.

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.
Yeah, gently caress shocker stickers. Tramp-stamp of the automotive world.

Turbo Fondant
Oct 25, 2010

Slavvy posted:

The control arms and poo poo underneath were green from over-spray.

Auxillary rust protection.
Joining the "would" :uhaul:, on condition that the stickers and taillight smoke be removed, a wheel alignment done and 20mm wider tires be installed on those wheels.

T1g4h
Aug 6, 2008

I AM THE SCALES OF JUSTICE, CONDUCTOR OF THE CHOIR OF DEATH!



One of my friends just sent me this, with the phrase "Two scissor jacks are definitely a good idea, right?". I seriously cringed :v:

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde
One of them is already leaning :catstare:

MetaJew
Apr 14, 2006
Gather round, one and all, and thrill to my turgid tales of underwhelming misadventure!
Holyshi. At least put the wheels under the frame, near the jacks.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Terrible Robot posted:

One of them is already leaning :catstare:

It looks they're both leaning. In opposite directions!

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Hey, at least they are full instead of half-scissor jacks!

:suicide:

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

This fits, both because the car is terrible, and Ferrari are being a bunch of dicks again.

http://mashable.com/2014/08/30/ferrari-deadmau5-cease-and-desist/

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

This fits, both because the car is terrible, and Ferrari are being a bunch of dicks again.

http://mashable.com/2014/08/30/ferrari-deadmau5-cease-and-desist/



See, poo poo like that is why I'd never own a Ferrari even if I did become a billionaire overnight. As far as I'm concerned, once you buy a car, it is and ought to be yours to do with as you drat well please. Between this and "selling" a car that you can't take home, and can't even drive without advance notice to Ferrari*, they clearly don't Get It (or care, let's be honest).

I'll take my fluorescent green and day-glo orange Lamborghini with musical horn, thank you very much.

E: (forgot that asterisk :v:) *I know it's not street legal, there's plenty of companies selling track-only specials that you can actually own like a normal car.

Fender Anarchist fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Oct 6, 2014

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Ferrari wasn't mad about the dumb graphics, they were mad about the modified versions of the Ferrari name and badges that the car used.

They're still dicks, but at least they sort of have law on their side.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

xzzy posted:

Ferrari wasn't mad about the dumb graphics, they were mad about the modified versions of the Ferrari name and badges that the car used.

They're still dicks, but at least they sort of have law on their side.

Oh thank god I can't wait for BMW to follow suit and start suing people for putting M3 logos on their budget BMWs

The Royal Nonesuch
Nov 1, 2005

GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

Oh thank god I can't wait for BMW to follow suit and start suing people for putting M3 logos on their budget BMWs

Toyota has like a million possible lawsuits for the old pickups with tailgates modified to say TOY or OYO etc.

Ferrari is dumb. You have an extremely popular musician ( :airquote: ) riding around in your product during a high vis event, don't sue him. It's not like anyone is going to confuse your iconic super car with a Dodge once the badge is off.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.

xzzy posted:

They're still dicks, but at least they sort of have law on their side.

I don't think he was selling the badges. Say it's parody and move on.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

I'm really surprised he didn't just tell Ferrari to get bent. It doesn't seem like they have a leg to stand on, legally.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Just a reminder that if you own a trademark, you are legally required to defend it whenever you become aware of some potentially infringing action. Otherwise you'll lose the rights. Ferrari may not actually care that deadmau5 is making modified logos for his car, but if they don't tell him to stop, some guy making knockoff Ferrari wheels or whatever will be able to refer back to it and say "hey look you didn't do anything about this case" and that leads to the end of their ownership of the mark.

Also something good to keep in mind the next time you hear some :supaburn: story along the lines of "Disney sues man who dresses up like Captain Jack Sparrow and goes to visit sick children!!!!!" :supaburn: Disney doesn't have anything against the person doing that, they just need to demonstrate that they're defending the rights or they will lose them

MRC48B
Apr 2, 2012

Yep. If you don't defend your trademarks tooth and nail, someone can use them as a precedent against you in court. Lawyers ruin everything.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

That's mostly internet bullshit with a small degree of truth behind it. You should be able to figure out that companies don't need to wield their lawyers that vigorously given how noteworthy it is when they do. They might see a benefit in doing it, but that doesn't mean their respective federal government is mandating that they do. Losing your trademark is extremely rare.

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 6, 2014

Goober Peas
Jun 30, 2007

Check out my 'Vette, bro


I'm not a trademark lawyer, but I did stay at a holiday inn last night...

:science:

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

That's mostly internet bullshit with a small degree of truth behind it. You should be able to figure out that companies don't need to wield their lawyers that vigorously given how noteworthy it is when they do. They might see a benefit in doing it, but that doesn't mean their respective federal government is mandating that they do. Losing your trademark is extremely rare.

No, it isn't. If you set a precedent of not caring that people are misusing your trademark, you have very little to stand on if you actually do decide to pursue some kind of litigation later. A good recent example is when Sparkfun imported a bunch of $10 yellow multimeters from China to sell as part of their beginner's electronics kit, and the meters were impounded in customs in LA because Fluke has a trademark on yellow electrical testing devices. Even though Fluke didn't initiate the legal action (a random customs agent in LA discovered it), and SparkFun clearly wasn't trying to fool anyone into thinking that they'd get a Fluke with the Sparkfun Beginner's Kit, they couldn't say "ok, just this once you can have the meters" because hey that shows that Fluke doesn't always care about there being other yellow meters on the market. So the $40,000 of infringing meters were destroyed.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Sagebrush posted:

No, it isn't. If you set a precedent of not caring that people are misusing your trademark, you have very little to stand on if you actually do decide to pursue some kind of litigation later. A good recent example is when Sparkfun imported a bunch of $10 yellow multimeters from China to sell as part of their beginner's electronics kit, and the meters were impounded in customs in LA because Fluke has a trademark on yellow electrical testing devices. Even though Fluke didn't initiate the legal action (a random customs agent in LA discovered it), and SparkFun clearly wasn't trying to fool anyone into thinking that they'd get a Fluke with the Sparkfun Beginner's Kit, they couldn't say "ok, just this once you can have the meters" because hey that shows that Fluke doesn't always care about there being other yellow meters on the market. So the $40,000 of infringing meters were destroyed.

That's, uh, a very different example. Customs agents do act on counterfeit merchandise, though.

Lawsuits and C&Ds aren't the only method of protecting your trademark. When some company goes loving buck wild on lawsuits it's a dumb internet myth that their hands were tied and they had no other way to respond. That's clear enough given how many companies don't, especially when it's one individual potentially infringing on it. There's no legal requirement there, just an action they chose to do.

Tiny Timbs fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Oct 6, 2014

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester
Oct 3, 2000

GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:

Oh thank god I can't wait for BMW to follow suit and start suing people for putting M3 logos on their budget BMWs
BMW has already been doing this forever. A few years ago the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners club had to change all its logos because it was using the old style bronze lined roundel with serif letters from pre-1961. Can't do that, it has to be the modern logo. And the logo has to be in a square white box with a black edge and a black line through the middle and has to say "BMW CLUB" in the top half next to the modern logo and then underneath that you can say Vintage Motorcycle or whatever. I'm not making this up.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Rev. Dr. Moses P. Lester posted:

BMW has already been doing this forever. A few years ago the Vintage BMW Motorcycle Owners club had to change all its logos because it was using the old style bronze lined roundel with serif letters from pre-1961. Can't do that, it has to be the modern logo. And the logo has to be in a square white box with a black edge and a black line through the middle and has to say "BMW CLUB" in the top half next to the modern logo and then underneath that you can say Vintage Motorcycle or whatever. I'm not making this up.

Reminds me of this:

http://www.buyxboxoneuk.com/xbox-one-news-page/35-xbox-one-branding-and-font/35-xbox-one-branding-and-font.html

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Sagebrush posted:

... because Fluke has a trademark on yellow electrical testing devices.

What the hell? How can you trademark ALL yellow electrical testing devices? That would be like Apple trademarking white cellphones.

Blue On Blue
Nov 14, 2012

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

What the hell? How can you trademark ALL yellow electrical testing devices? That would be like Apple trademarking white cellphones.

Pretty sure Apple tried... https://www.apple.com/legal/intellectual-property/trademark/appletmlist.html

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

What the hell? How can you trademark ALL yellow electrical testing devices? That would be like Apple trademarking white cellphones.

That is what they have a trademark on, apparently. You can look it up; the internet was Very Mad about Fluke vs. Sparkfun a couple of months ago.

Also re. Apple, I worked for a company that made Apple accessories once and they also have a pretty hilarious list of rules you need to follow to avoid "diluting the trademark." For instance, Apple products are never referred to using articles of any kind. You do not "plug your iPhone into the MacBook" or say your product "is compatible with the iPod"; you "plug iPhone into MacBook" and your product is "compatible with iPod."

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Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

What the hell? How can you trademark ALL yellow electrical testing devices? That would be like Apple trademarking white cellphones.

I have no idea because my local Home Depot has a variety of non-Fluke yellow multimeters, and by the look of it, so does Amazon. Suspect there's more to it than that.

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