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I really liked Infinite, even the ending (don't hurt me). That said, all in all, I thought it was good, but good to the point of getting the praise it got. And the Vox Populi plot thread was simply terrible. Also, if we are going to talk about stupid poo poo in Infinite, why aren't we talking about GHOST MOM? EDIT: I never played the DLC, but I hear it makes things even sillier, so I held off.
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Max Wilco posted:I think this critique does a good job of highlighting all the issues Bioshock Infinite has: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdNhwb7iuI4 I frankly also don't give a poo poo about the time travel/paradox/infinite worlds stuff because it's just stuff you throw out in time travel stories anyway. Granted you could be consistent with some more common tropes, that's about it. He's not wrong about Elizabeth's characterization feeling off, but that was probably a conscious choice (he may or may not also have issues with Tangled I would wager a guess), which at least carried through consistently to the end; Booker is a problem though because if you do frame the story of BSI through the lens of Booker's eventual redemption, he's right that there's not much to redeem, or not much shown since he spends most of it either lambasting Elizabeth about being too idealistic or asking her about the plot (or shooting hordes of dudes). Unlucky7 posted:I really liked Infinite, even the ending (don't hurt me). Sober fucked around with this message at 08:12 on Oct 5, 2014 |
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Oct 5, 2014 08:10
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Unlucky7 posted:Also, if we are going to talk about stupid poo poo in Infinite, why aren't we talking about GHOST MOM? The strange thing about that level is that it's the only one in the game that seems to most closely reflect the original design, albeit incredibly stripped down and with a few oddly-detailed side areas that scream cut content. All I can think about the spoilered part is that they were trying to follow the tradition of *Shock games having ghosts in them. That's the best I got.  Well, I will be fair - the three main subplots in Infinite, including that one, actually have a tangible purpose. They're meant to be reflections of Booker's past, as he's dragged through a personal purgatory of sorts and attempt to redeem himself. And while that thematic tie does kind of work, the way they're executed is sloppy (the first two) or bizarre (the third). John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 08:19 on Oct 5, 2014 |
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Oct 5, 2014 08:14
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mr. nobody posted:Would you be so kind as to name the level or how I could find something on youtube? Sounds hilarious Away all Goats posted:I never understand people who say that game is hard to understand. EVERYTHING has a tooltip. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zThxP55Cqeo
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Oct 5, 2014 08:17
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Oh my god a RED BLOODED AMERICAN RANT  it's amazing  The "spell it correctly" rant has me in tears.Just to note I haven't played D:OS or backed it or anything but holy poo poo he really needs to like sit there for a minute to realize everything he's complaining about can be solved with some common sense, trial and error. Does he even want to play an RPG? I thought by habit most gamers (especially if you are going to make a rant video like that) you were gonna check the body at the start there anyway?
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Oct 5, 2014 08:26
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John Murdoch posted:All I can think about the spoilered part is that they were trying to follow the tradition of *Shock games having ghosts in them. That's the best I got. Sirens ressurecting soldiers were meant to be an ordinary enemy, and they were featured as such even in the marketing material https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNB1peLQwTM Game had a very messed up development
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Oct 5, 2014 08:27
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Should I get D3 + Expansion now or could it get any cheaper? I still have Van Helsing 1 + 2 in my backlog.
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fatherboxx posted:Sirens ressurecting soldiers were meant to be an ordinary enemy, and they were featured as such even in the marketing material  Oh, jeez.
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Oct 5, 2014 08:33
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gyger posted:Should I get D3 + Expansion now or could it get any cheaper? I still have Van Helsing 1 + 2 in my backlog. I doubt it'll get any cheaper. Blizzard doesn't really discount their stuff that often, and when they do they rarely go past 50% off. 40 bucks for both d3 and RoS is the best you'll probably see for awhile.
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Oct 5, 2014 08:42
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Kibayasu posted:Since I can't resist talking about Nier even after all these years it almost feels like there are two true endings to it, due to the fact that there are two "main characters," in that the Japanese version of the game has you playing as Yonah's brother, who also looks completely different, whereas the North American version has you playing as her father, but the endings remain the same in both versions. After everything you go through in the NA version to save Yonah Ending D really doesn't feel like it fits too well. Ending C might be a bit stereotypical in that it seems like just a simple, mostly happy ending (on a relatively small scale at least) but compared to Nier choosing to leave his daughter behind, literally his single motivation for the entire game, C fit a lot better when combined with what happens in Endings A and B. It's a shame Ending E ended up on the cutting room floor where (major Nier spoilers) You started a new game and could get an ending that let you resurrect your previous ending D save so everyone got a happy ending.
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Oct 5, 2014 08:45
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gyger posted:Should I get D3 + Expansion now or could it get any cheaper? I still have Van Helsing 1 + 2 in my backlog. It'll be $40 again, probably sooner than later. If you didn't get runover by the train I don't see a reason to hop on if you have something else to do. Is Neir coming out on PC? Whys peoples talking about it? Ryse is apparantly coming out next week, something I had no clue of until my queue told me, so good job New Steam.
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Oct 5, 2014 08:54
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kater posted:Is Neir coming out on PC? Whys peoples talking about it? No. It was being used as an example.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:00
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kirbysuperstar posted:No. It was being used as an example. New update for Ending D for a PC version; It formats all your hard drives. You have to be very sure about picking it.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:05
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Neddy Seagoon posted:New update for Ending D for a PC version; If only
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Sober posted:Oh my god a RED BLOODED AMERICAN RANT The body is the best. He's just refusing to do it out of spite because orcs didn't attack as mandated by some law of narrative, but for some reason is ignoring that the character specifically said they preferred being attacked by orcs better because they're poo poo at ambushes as you can hear them coming.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:14
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Ghostlight posted:He has the Kickstarter Edition so he not only must have wanted to play an RPG, but wanted to do so quite far ahead of time. Preeeetty sure, given some of his other videos, its a joke. And a pretty good one. Poe's Law at the very least.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:21
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gyger posted:Should I get D3 + Expansion now or could it get any cheaper? I still have Van Helsing 1 + 2 in my backlog. Buy it if you want to play it NOW. Otherwise wait, it will be cheaper (although probably not that much) somewhere down the line.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:42
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He's going the extra mile for the joke because he also gets banned from forums for being an argumentative and unreasonable sperg.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:43
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Trials Fusion: worth $5? Trying to decide whether to grab the Ubi 3-pack thing or just Child Of Light and Valiant Hearts separately.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:46
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duckfarts posted:Trials Fusion: worth $5? Trying to decide whether to grab the Ubi 3-pack thing or just Child Of Light and Valiant Hearts separately. Yes Yes Yes. If you liked any of the previous trials game, this is more of that, more refined, still shitloads of fun. Now with FMX tricks!
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Oct 5, 2014 09:50
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Tezzeract posted:Managed to finish a game of Endless Legend. Wow, this is one of the most unique 4X games I've ever played and the only one that I wanted to play through to see the end game victory conditions. The factions are probably more diverse than the ones from that Civ mod Fall from Heaven. And the faction questline does a great job contextualizing the setting. What intrigues me the most is the salad bowl tech tree. You cannot just insta buy all the low level techs as soon as you start the usual science farting phase of most 4x. You have to stick with your build somewhat, because the more you research the more the costs rise up and you'd rather blow your science load with a shiny age 2 tech. Also, the fact that you can choose any tech from the bowl should make for extremely varied and unique strategies. Probably there will be a cookie cutter build that always works but eh... It's mainly SP for me, so I don't really care.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:54
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I'm a bit bummed out from the work and I will need something to take my mind out from it: Recommend me a good indie game cheaply from Steam. Is Shadowrun: Director's cut any good? What about The Long Dark? I need fun and immersion, people!
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ManOfTheYear posted:I'm a bit bummed out from the work and I will need something to take my mind out from it: Recommend me a good indie game cheaply from Steam. Is Shadowrun: Director's cut any good? What about The Long Dark? It's not hardly an indie game but STALKER: COP is $10 right now, can't get much better for cheap immersion.
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AirRaid posted:Yes Yes Yes. However the intro music is awful. Where's my trials rap?
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Kibayasu posted:Since I can't resist talking about Nier even after all these years it almost feels like there are two true endings to it, due to the fact that there are two "main characters," in that the Japanese version of the game has you playing as Yonah's brother, who also looks completely different, whereas the North American version has you playing as her father, but the endings remain the same in both versions. After everything you go through in the NA version to save Yonah Ending D really doesn't feel like it fits too well. Ending C might be a bit stereotypical in that it seems like just a simple, mostly happy ending (on a relatively small scale at least) but compared to Nier choosing to leave his daughter behind, literally his single motivation for the entire game, C fit a lot better when combined with what happens in Endings A and B. I think he understood that both Yonah and Kainé would both live on, which was all he really wanted. If I remember correctly from the Japanese audio dramas, Kainé goes crazy when she starts to remember small fragments of who Nier was, but not understanding who he was or why he was so important. Emir also outlives everyone and ends up alone, long after everyone else has died. I also figured both Brother and Father versions of Nier were canon, as the replicants were repeated over generations, so one iteration of replicant Nier was just closer in age to Replicant Yonah. We got a Replicant Nier who was pretty old by the time the Shadowlord lost his patience and the Japanese got a different generation of him. rednecked_crake fucked around with this message at 11:12 on Oct 5, 2014 |
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An update on some new smaller releases on Steam: A.R.E.S. Extinction Agenda EX - A sequel to A.R.E.S. released. It's a 2.5D sidescrolling action game a'la Abuse. The first game wasn't good but maybe the sequel is better?  Qora - Another attack of the retro graphics. This time the pixels are even smaller. It's an adventure game.  Silence of the Sleep - A 2D horror adventure game with mechanics reminescent of Amnesia where you have to avoid a patroling monster while exploring. Might be cool.  Super Win the Game - A sequel to another homage to old-school platformers. You know the drill.  Wrack - A horde mode, combo-driven FPS that was Early Access for some time and just fully released. 
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Wrack has some of the most questionable design choices I've ever seen in any FPS, you have a melee weapon which is a huge sword and your camera moves around when you swing it to mimick the real movement of a body swinging the sword around. Its a super high speed game though so the effect is both disorienting and nauseating. It also has the same problem rise of the triad had initially. Limited lives AND a checkpoint system! Also only 8 levels and 5 weapons.
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FrickenMoron posted:Wrack has some of the most questionable design choices I've ever seen in any FPS, you have a melee weapon which is a huge sword and your camera moves around when you swing it to mimick the real movement of a body swinging the sword around. Its a super high speed game though so the effect is both disorienting and nauseating. It also has the same problem rise of the triad had initially. Limited lives AND a checkpoint system! Also only 8 levels and 5 weapons. It's still miles better and far more polished than 95% of the other crap which makes it through greenlight these days. It has it's flaws but few games don't. Considering this is a first commercial effort it's really good.
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Oct 5, 2014 12:22
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Ghostlight posted:Please refer to this informative video on how intuitive games need to be DarkSydePhil's long lost brother?
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Oct 5, 2014 12:29
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Isn't ARES Extinction Agenda EX a remake of Extinction Agenda rather than a sequel? Also, Wrack is pretty fun if you're fan of Doom. It has nowhere near the same quality of design, but it scratches all the right itches for me.
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Oct 5, 2014 12:34
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AirRaid posted:It's still miles better and far more polished than 95% of the other crap which makes it through greenlight these days. It has it's flaws but few games don't. Considering this is a first commercial effort it's really good.
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Lemon Curdistan posted:Also, Wrack is pretty fun if you're fan of Doom. It has nowhere near the same quality of design, but it scratches all the right itches for me. This makes sense since the main Dev is Carnevil, who made Skulltag among other doom related things.
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There's already the first episode of Doom released for Wrack.
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So maybe you guys can confirm. Is personal tailoring on the Steam attention queue thing a myth, or is it something I should ignore if I just want to see games I might be interested in on grounds of personal taste? Because the one and only game I've seen it suggest to me for a reason beyond 'because it's popular' is Borderlands: The Pre-Sequel, which was instead suggested for being a 'top seller'. I'd love a list of games they think I'd like, based on what I usually buy and play, but if it's going to keep throwing me Acclaimed Yet Personally Uninteresting AAA Title #63 and Early-Access Creative Sandbox Game #58 then I've got no reason to bother.
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kirbysuperstar posted:If only Wasn't there a game that pretty much already did this? Albeit it was accidental, but it was still rather funny.
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Cleretic posted:So maybe you guys can confirm. Is personal tailoring on the Steam attention queue thing a myth, or is it something I should ignore if I just want to see games I might be interested in on grounds of personal taste? "The Discovery Queue will not show any product that is already in your library, on your wishlist, or that you’ve seen in a Discovery Queue previously. It will also exclude products that you have marked as 'Not Interested' or have previously indicated that you wished not to be recommended to you." "Everyone is different, and tastes in games change over time. We mix in products based on newness or popularity, in addition to games similar to ones you’ve been playing, to help you discover new things that you didn’t realize could be interesting." "Selecting ‘Not Interested’ on a product in your Discovery Queue lets Steam know that you don’t want to see that product in any featured area or recommendations. It does not change what kind of games will be recommended to you." So to recap:
That's it, there's nothing more to the queue than browsing the most popular games list except for removing the particular games you selected not to see anymore.
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Moryrie posted:How hard is Crusader Kings to get into if you just kinda start playing it? I'm thinking of installing since it's free at the moment, but I'm a bit apprehensive because of how hard everyone says it is, and I really hate watching youtube tutorials because the people doing them always have these horrible obnoxious voices. Awesome! posted:I had no clue what the "great house" option in the people finder meant until today too. 
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Ddraig posted:Wasn't there a game that pretty much already did this? Albeit it was accidental, but it was still rather funny. There was an old PC game that decided the Windows directory was it's install pathway (or at least some key part of it) and would effectively lobotomize your Windows install if you tried to uninstall the game.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:There was an old PC game that decided the Windows directory was it's install pathway (or at least some key part of it) and would effectively lobotomize your Windows install if you tried to uninstall the game.
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Ddraig posted:Wasn't there a game that pretty much already did this? Albeit it was accidental, but it was still rather funny. Myth II's uninstaller would take Windows out, EVE's first graphical overhaul expansion deleted Vista's boot.ini and one Phantasy Star Online 2 update wiped C: if the game was installed to a non-default location. Those are the big three, off the top of my head.
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