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Really disappointing, I burnt through 25 red orbs tonight and got 7 actual fights for it. Why wouldn't you get the orb back when a host disconnects? Heck the invader should be given a free orb whenever a host disconnects, the more people disconnect on you the more you get to invade! About how many corrossive urns does it take to break someones rings?
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Too many. It's not worth using them unless you really want to dedicate yourself to that gimmick.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:38
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Oct 5, 2014 09:46
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Oh I'm not so excited about it any more then -- prefer the dragon greatsword. All those weapons at least look solid though. Good job From.
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Oct 5, 2014 09:48
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Oh wow, corrosive urns only deal 2 durability damage to rings. Maybe next AFK I'll try punching/casting warmth. Do I hear a sound when his rings break or is that only for the ring of life protection? On a related note, there's this delightful "PVP video" from the same person who made the DSP "This is how you don't play Dark Souls 2" video. The ending is the best. 
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Oct 5, 2014 10:03
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Sanctum posted:Oh wow, corrosive urns only deal 2 durability damage to rings. Maybe next AFK I'll try punching/casting warmth. Do I hear a sound when his rings break or is that only for the ring of life protection? How do you cause the slowdown effect that the invader is using? Looks like some kind of throwing item.
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Oct 5, 2014 10:17
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Alabaster White posted:How do you cause the slowdown effect that the invader is using? Looks like some kind of throwing item. Spider Fangs R2.
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Oct 5, 2014 10:20
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Iretep posted:Spider Fangs R2. Oh? I never used it because I assumed it would be poo poo, but the effect looks really powerful and it's even a projectile... I know what I'm doing from now on 
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Oct 5, 2014 10:22
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Reported for cheating 
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Oct 5, 2014 10:40
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Grinding the flexile sentry's NG+ adds for their armor, weapons, or helmet is a gigantic pain in the rear end. I just wanna be a mummy for halloween dammit! 
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Oct 5, 2014 11:31
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CJacobs posted:Grinding the flexile sentry's NG+ adds for their armor, weapons, or helmet is a gigantic pain in the rear end. I just wanna be a mummy for halloween dammit! Grinding is bad and dumb, which is why we have cheating! 
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Oct 5, 2014 11:39
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I know, but I at least wanted to try doing it legitimately first. It was a bad idea.
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Oct 5, 2014 12:24
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Well I guess I'm done with PVP now since everyone will be doing that. It's been a fun ride.
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Oct 5, 2014 12:46
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Is there any weapons that are similar to the estoc for reach and moveset but I dunno... better? more interesting? just different?
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Oct 5, 2014 13:40
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Not sure how you can do DSP mocking videos if your PvP sessions go like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LjAZa3p9rQ
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Oct 5, 2014 13:52
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Fargin Icehole posted:Not sure how you can do DSP mocking videos if your PvP sessions go like this: That's the first legit use of acid surge I've seen.
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Oct 5, 2014 13:56
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Artemis J Brassnuts posted:I'm not saying that's what From is doing, but it's definitely possible. If they're smart, they're watching tallgeese's logs and working to patch the exploits he finds before they spread too far (okay, it's pretty clear they're dropping the ball on a lot of them, but who knows what kind of skeleton crew they have on post-launch content). Actually, funny enough they did hit something I used. I used to be able to stick the Shulva Ghost effect on myself, along with a variety of enemy auras for cosmetic use. The first thing is dangerous, because it allows someone to be basically invincible. I edited it so I had none of the defensive powers, but showed up as a human whose covenant aura was not suppressed. Two other people were not so generous, though I smacked them around ingame to the point where one of them CEs their HP to 0 when they see me. For some reason they refused to lose to me by Alt-F4ing, so one encounter lasted a while with them completely paralyzed. What From did in response was to make it so a player could apparently not equip enemy effects whose numbers start with a certain number, all such effects on the player are suppressed. This is rather unfortunate, as I can no longer have pretty auras (I'm going to miss the purple ones), but I'll live. Right now I only have a gold aura and a black aura, but it's just not the same. The rub is that it's a completely pointless gesture. You can still be invincible by using some stupid infinite HP script. You can still crash people by changing your name.
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Oct 5, 2014 15:00
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VocalizePlayerDeath posted:How have I never seen this before. Very funny slow burn. Please tell me this is satire
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There is no way to permanently stop hacking in PC video games, especially Dark Souls and DS2, but it's From's responsibility as a developer to try and patch anything they find that the player shouldn't be able to do. That's not to say cheating is wrong or whatever, just that you can't fault them for trying.  VocalizePlayerDeath posted:How have I never seen this before. Very funny slow burn. I don't care if this is their genuine reaction or if this person is faking it, I hate them for even bothering either way. CJacobs fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Oct 5, 2014 |
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CJacobs posted:There is no way to permanently stop hacking in PC video games, especially Dark Souls and DS2, but it's From's responsibility as a developer to try and patch anything they find that the player shouldn't be able to do. That's not to say cheating is wrong or whatever, just that you can't fault them for trying. I can blame them when I can fix a crash exploit (done while disguised as me no less) with around ten lines of assembly and five minutes of work, while they're putzing around with removing harmless barrel armor.
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Oct 5, 2014 15:51
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argondamn posted:Please tell me this is satire I'd normally say people can't be that stupid but I've met too many people. Most likely some bad troll, though.
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Oct 5, 2014 16:01
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IGgy IGsen posted:I'd normally say people can't be that stupid but I've met too many people. It's some sperg who's worked out he can get more channel views by deliberately being obtuse about popular games. He has one about xcom which shows him failing the tutorial by refusing to click the right mouse button at the on screen prompt.
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Oct 5, 2014 16:05
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RabidWeasel posted:It has the typical "stabby greatsword" moveset (except the 1HR2 which is the same as the Bastard Sword) with a different 2HR1 and R2. That thing about the longsword stab isn't exactly correct, it has the same rolling R1 as a lot of other greatswords IIRC, maybe it's a little faster. I'm not sure about the stamina drain, it felt average for a GS, not super low like the Bastard Sword and Watcher GS - I should check that more precisely. Having not used the Watcher GS I can't say if it's tied or lower on stamina consumption but the consumption per swing on the Loyce is lower than the Bastard Sword's, 100% sure of it, and thus lower than most other greatswords. And it's longer than the Bastard Sword too.
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OK, I have to ask. Does the Combustion attack of the Charred Loyce Knights have some unusual attack frame after they are finished? I seem to get blasted for 1700 damage if I'm standing at their side and moving in to attack after they cast Combustion, but the flames are no longer there.
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Could it be that you are getting hit by the fire whip instead of the combustion? The game seems to occasinally not render all of the flame effects properly and the Loyce Knights fire whip is for some reason massively stronger than the player version.
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Oct 5, 2014 17:20
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I was expecting a continuous wave of Loyce Knights after I beat the Ivory King. Kinda disappointed in one wave per trip. Either way it's a super fun area that I think they should have made into it's own covenant. There could even be two sides. One side co-ops, the other side uses an orb to spawn through the gates.
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Oct 5, 2014 17:24
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Helped five people through the Fume knight this morning. I always groan when I see them summon an NPC phantom though. The cestus one at least has some hp and is a distraction, but the mage is totally useless. All that you are doing is making it harder for us!
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Stokes posted:I was expecting a continuous wave of Loyce Knights after I beat the Ivory King. Kinda disappointed in one wave per trip. Either way it's a super fun area that I think they should have made into it's own covenant. There could even be two sides. One side co-ops, the other side uses an orb to spawn through the gates. They will keep spawning, it just takes a long while.
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Fargin Icehole posted:Not sure how you can do DSP mocking videos if your PvP sessions go like this: DSP is still worse. The medieval incapacity for adaptability or experiment, faking figuring things out personally after he reads them in the chat, using the same loving gear he got two hours into the game, belching, R1 spam that gets him hit, estus spam that gets him hit, it's like watching a Mongolian peasant loaded up on Haldol trying to figure out relativity. The game is just totally beyond him and it always will be.
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VocalizePlayerDeath posted:How have I never seen this before. Very funny slow burn. this is the same divinity original sin doesnt explain poo poo lol
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Oct 5, 2014 19:59
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Flytrap posted:They will keep spawning, it just takes a long while. If you get summoned as a phantom while you're down there, it'll spawn a new wave once you get back, even if there were still knights left over from the last wave.
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gtrmp posted:If you get summoned as a phantom while you're down there, it'll spawn a new wave once you get back, even if there were still knights left over from the last wave. New challenge: get summoned over and over without killing any knights. How many knights can your computer handle?!?!
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What's the most people you can have in a world? 6? I've seen four when I invaded someone once. Would it be master + 2 summons + 3 invaders? Two invaders max?
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Oct 5, 2014 20:51
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I think if you can only have three other people in with you. If you have two whites I think only one red is allowed and vice versa. I've never seen more on the bridge.
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Sheep-Goats posted:I think if you can only have three other people in with you. If you have two whites I think only one red is allowed and vice versa. I've never seen more on the bridge. do red, grays, and blues all share the same pool? If you were in a belfry could you in theory have 2 whites, 2 grays, 1 red, 1 blue? I assume invaders all take up a slot regardless of their type. On that subject though, if you are a sinner, and in the way of blue, will you get a blue sentinel protector? If you get invaded by a red, get a sentinel, then get invaded by an avenging blue, can the blues fight eachother?
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VocalizePlayerDeath posted:How have I never seen this before. Very funny slow burn. That person is trolling, right? Nobody can be that stupid. He walked right past the door...
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Giant Isopod posted:do red, grays, and blues all share the same pool? If you were in a belfry could you in theory have 2 whites, 2 grays, 1 red, 1 blue? Yeah they are all in the same pool. Only three phantoms of any color max + host. source: fight club hosting
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Is it me or did FROM kinda over-nerf the whole poise mechanic? Did they even fix phantom hits? It's really hard to tell, but the way fast 2H pokey weapons (rapier/mail breaker/estoc/etc) can poise break anyone is silly. Ideally a moderate amount of poise should be enough to take pokes like that and trade hits with the guy poking. Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the way things are over the bullshit that was Dark Souls 1 PVP. Zweilords were the worst, most boring thing. I'd much rather be fighting fast pokey guys than zweilords. I don't even mind being a fast pokey guy myself because I love the rapiers and estocs. Plus since any weapon can poise-break we don't have some zweihander equivalent. If there was any actual trade-off between poise-damage and a weapon's reach/attack speed then, inevitably, one weapon would rise to the top and become the new zweihander. Perhaps poor balance is a blessing because it allows for variety; DS1 showed us 10/10 players* would roll with the same min-max build if it was most effective. *PC township PVP was incredibly bland, it would be difficult to overstate how prevailing zweihanders and dark magic users were.
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Zweihander's weren't that common on PS3 or PC in my experience, probably because it was really hard to use effectively since anyone decent would just toggle then parry or BS.
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I assume you know that poise only works while you're attacking now, right? If you're walking or standing any hit will stagger you. This is a huge improvement over Da1 as waking through swings for a backstab was 70-90% of PVP for probably 50% of the PVP population then. Poise wasn't a thing in Demons, then it was the most important thing in Da1, now it's kind of important in Da2. They're as close to getting it right as they have been. In my opinion the major issue is that the bonuses to poise damage are too great for two handing -- there should be a bonus but not as much as it is now. With that said no amount of poise should be able to stand up to a 2H great club or great sword. Also I think they should make the poise bar visible. And further nerf the protective capacity of heavy armor.
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