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Sagebrush posted:Also re. Apple, I worked for a company that made Apple accessories once and they also have a pretty hilarious list of rules you need to follow to avoid "diluting the trademark." For instance, Apple products are never referred to using articles of any kind. You do not "plug your iPhone into the MacBook" or say your product "is compatible with the iPod"; you "plug iPhone into MacBook" and your product is "compatible with iPod." That's irritating me just reading it, like women referring to "What is best for baby?" 
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Sagebrush posted:Also re. Apple, I worked for a company that made Apple accessories once and they also have a pretty hilarious list of rules you need to follow to avoid "diluting the trademark." For instance, Apple products are never referred to using articles of any kind. You do not "plug your iPhone into the MacBook" or say your product "is compatible with the iPod"; you "plug iPhone into MacBook" and your product is "compatible with iPod." Yeah, this is one of the things they started doing in the iPod era and it drives me up the loving wall about them.
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Snowdens Secret posted:I have no idea because my local Home Depot has a variety of non-Fluke yellow multimeters, and by the look of it, so does Amazon. Suspect there's more to it than that. That's because you can't trademark 'yellow'. They'll have a very specific shade of yellow with specific RGB numbers copyrighted. Other meters can be yellow, but not the same yellow. This is true for millions of brands the world over. There was recently a slapfight here in NZ when a political party used a shade of purple that was too close to the one used by cadbury's chocolate.
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Slavvy posted:That's because you can't trademark 'yellow'. They'll have a very specific shade of yellow with specific RGB numbers copyrighted. Other meters can be yellow, but not the same yellow. This is true for millions of brands the world over. There was recently a slapfight here in NZ when a political party used a shade of purple that was too close to the one used by cadbury's chocolate. I googled the Fluke / Sparkfun thing and as usual with Internet Gets Buttmad stories there was more to it but it's not a discussion for the terrible car thread
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:What the hell? How can you trademark ALL yellow electrical testing devices? That would be like Apple trademarking Well technically they got a patent on rectangular electronic devices with rounded corners...
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Geoj posted:Well technically they got a patent on rectangular electronic devices with rounded corners... They also patented the use of decorative lighting in an electronic device back in the mid-00s
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Tommychu posted:They also patented the use of decorative lighting in an electronic device back in the mid-00s What does that even mean?
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MetaJew posted:What does that even mean?
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KoRMaK posted:The mid years of the 2010 decade. Probably like 2003-3008 Pretty sure that isn't what he was asking.
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MetaJew posted:What does that even mean? You remember Christmas lights? You owe Apple $275.21 per winter you've used them.
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Sappo569 posted:That's irritating me just reading it, like women referring to "What is best for baby?" Automakers do this occasionally, and it drives me bonkers. Same with referring to [the] Concorde jet.
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Specifically any consumer electronic device whose primary purpose is not decorative but has decorative lighting. So if you sell Computer with LEDs that aren't functional and are just there to make PC pretty Apple sues Pants off.
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A mechanic I used for a long time worked on nothing except Honda and Acura. Owner worked at dealers from the 70s until the 90s, opened his shop in the mid-late 90s. A couple of years back, I noticed the "Honda Specialist" part of his sign had been painted over, and there was now a small sign in the grass that said "We <3 Hondas". His son in law has his own shop now, and we still talk. I asked him about it. Honda had their lawyers get ahold of him and say, in a nutshell, "can't use our name on your sign, can't use our name as part of your name. Don't care that you've been doing it for 15 years". They also got pissy about him using a stock photo of a Honda Accord (with the logo removed) on his website. He has a photo of a Ford Taurus now. For a shop that only works on Hondas and Acuras.  Nevermind the fact that there's a junkyard here called "Honda Heaven" - apparently that's fine.  nissan.com is owned by a small computer shop, the owner's last name is Nissan. Nissan sued him for $10M in 1999. Case went to the supreme court, there was Nissan on Nissan action, and even though the carmaker eventually lost, they kept suing the guy until at least 2008. randomidiot fucked around with this message at 19:32 on Oct 6, 2014 |
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a primate posted:Same with referring to [the] Concorde jet.
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some texas redneck posted:A mechanic I used for a long time worked on nothing except Honda and Acura. Owner worked at dealers from the 70s until the 90s, opened his shop in the mid-late 90s. I used to drive by a shop in this exact situation. One day (and this was back in the '90s), "Hondamotive" became "Hon*amotive".
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Saw one of these abortions on the way home from work today. Darting back and forth between lanes without a turn signal. People sure do pay a lot of money for that thing.
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slip proof stairs posted:Saw one of these abortions on the way home from work today. Darting back and forth between lanes without a turn signal. It's all shiny and plastic and blue, like a piece of cheap consumer electronics. The roundel even appears to have a little inset area around it, so it looks like a power button.
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The similarity to consumer electronics is intentional. BMW are rapidly positioning themselves as the Apple of vehicle products.
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Slavvy posted:The similarity to consumer electronics is intentional. BMW are rapidly positioning themselves as the Apple of vehicle products. Non-serviceable?
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slip proof stairs posted:Saw one of these abortions on the way home from work today. Darting back and forth between lanes without a turn signal. I wish I could afford one.
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Oct 7, 2014 01:46
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Yeah, that's nothing a gold chrome vinyl wrap wouldn't fix.
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GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Non-serviceable? A surprisingly lame knockoff of a superior Korean product?
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The worst part about the i3 is how huge it actually is. None of the pictures show it off, because it is about as big as an x3.
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Slavvy posted:The similarity to consumer electronics is intentional. BMW are rapidly positioning themselves as the Apple of vehicle products. it's biggest fans are stuck in the 80s and/or early 90s?
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Slavvy posted:The similarity to consumer electronics is intentional. BMW are rapidly positioning themselves as the Apple of vehicle products. Here's to hoping that thing doesn't bend under normal use.
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Slavvy posted:The similarity to consumer electronics is intentional. BMW are rapidly positioning themselves as the Apple of vehicle products. They are going to have some stiff competition from Priuses on that front. corn in the fridge posted:There's a lovely old renault megane that comes to my shop that's got a bumper sticker that says "I survived the scrappage scheme" and i do a little This is the one I have on several of my crapcans  http://www.allthingsjeep.com/atj30939.html
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rscott posted:it's biggest fans are stuck in the 80s and/or early 90s? Hahaha excellent! kastein posted:They are going to have some stiff competition from Priuses on that front. Prii are for the plebeian masses, they're like a low-end samsung. BMW's are priced out of reach of poor people despite not really offering much more than brand cachet for the money.
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Slavvy posted:Hahaha excellent! Like for like, they're getting pretty close price wise. A BMW X1 starts at $30,900 with RWD and a 240hp 2.0T. It falls between the $28,000 honda CRV EX-L and $31,800 CRV touring for features, yet the honda has a 185hp 2.4 liter n/a engine and a CVT
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Slavvy posted:The similarity to consumer electronics is intentional. BMW are rapidly positioning themselves as the Apple of vehicle products. GENDERWEIRD GREEDO posted:Non-serviceable? Snowdens Secret posted:A surprisingly lame knockoff of a superior Korean product? rscott posted:it's biggest fans are stuck in the 80s and/or early 90s? Only works on 25% of roads. BMW starts claiming they invented the wheel and sues other automakers for including common "patented and/or trademarked features" like using pedals or disc brakes. Customers start camping out at BMW dealers days/weeks before the release of a new model that's actually 2-3 years behind current technology. Under the hood its exactly the same as any other car on the road yet still commands a 20% markup over similarly optioned competitor's models.
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Slavvy posted:Hahaha excellent! The payments for my BMW are significantly lower than the payments on the older and higher mileage Civic it replaced. Oh wait, you meant new.
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HotCanadianChick posted:The payments for my BMW are significantly lower than the payments on the older and higher mileage Civic it replaced. Now tell us about your maintenance costs.
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Fucknag posted:Now tell us about your maintenance costs. you mean you don't replace your radiator when you change your oil?
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Powershift posted:Like for like, they're getting pretty close price wise. A BMW X1 starts at $30,900 with RWD and a 240hp 2.0T. It falls between the $28,000 honda CRV EX-L and $31,800 CRV touring for features, yet the honda has a 185hp 2.4 liter n/a engine and a CVT I am genuinely surprised at this, I had no idea BMW's were so cheap anywhere. Here a base model, poverty spec, lowest of the low 320i costs $74,300. An absolutely loaded prius with radar cruise, solar panel, remote aircon etc costs $52,000.
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Fucknag posted:Now tell us about your maintenance costs. Things that have broken in the two years I've owned my BMW: 0 Things that broke in the 4 years I had my Honda: windshield cracked from running the heater on defrost, cig lighter/power outlet shorted out and stopped working (also the lid for the power outlet broke off), headliner was coming unglued from the roof in the rear. To be fair, the parts to do preventative maintenance on the bimmer's cooling system (i.e. total replacement of all of it) did cost about $100 more than what it cost to buy the parts for the water pump/timing belt/rad hose replacement I did on the Civic a few months before it got totaled, so I guess I'm out $100 more than what the Honda cost, albeit with fewer broken bits.
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You're the clutchpuck of automobiles just FYI. Also, 'automobiles' comes up as a spelling error 
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HotCanadianChick posted:Things that have broken in the two years I've owned my BMW: 0 I think he probably meant 'service costs at a authorised dealer to maintain your warranty'. I love how cars break in stereotypical ways. I've owned 2 french cars (every single bit of interior trim fell off), 1 british car (the electrics keep on failing, but on the plus side, they also start working again at random and nothing has gone on fire yet), 3 german cars (nothing went wrong but they cost a lot to maintain and people keep crashing into them), 2 japanese cars (got broken into and the aftermarket stereo stolen on both of them)
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HotCanadianChick posted:Things that have broken in the two years I've owned my BMW: 0 How much did you spend to redo the cooling system and fix the rear subframe tear issue on this BMW that has had no problems?
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slip proof stairs posted:Saw one of these abortions on the way home from work today. Darting back and forth between lanes without a turn signal.
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InitialDave posted:Eh, it's a carbon monocoque electric car Oh, that's actually kind of cool.
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slip proof stairs posted:Oh, that's actually kind of cool. Ist generally a cool car with some neat features and some real innovation in it. It just looks like poo poo.
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