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Duke Igthorn posted:This is a fantastic idea! We The People should all get together and have some sort of...I don't know..."vote" I guess? Yeah. And, if he doesn't get enough votes, out he goes! What, let all the poor people have a say in who runs the country? That sounds like Communism! (I say that in jest, but to clarify I have actually had someone say that to me in response to a similar statement)
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Oct 7, 2014 02:45
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Faustian Bargain posted:
You can just google it: http://www.ranker.com/list/top-20-bible-passages-to-use-against-fundamentalists/ivana-wynn
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Oct 7, 2014 02:47
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 Um.... green eggs and ham is a story about how a closed-minded individual stubbornly refuses something and at the end realizes he was wrong when he gives it a chance. 
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Faustian Bargain posted:
Forget the Christian bible, put Paulist misogyny on the backburner, attack the system at its foundation. Nobody right in the head would endorse dashing your enemy's infants to bits upon rocks, but that poo poo's in Psalms (Hebrew bible). You'd have to be a monster to swing a baby by the ankles and splatter it around, but it's right there in both bibles. For all their reprehensible conduct, has ISIS released any videos of baby-smashing? Does anyone practice that and expect praise? Crain posted:You can just google it: That website misuses the verse in the context of smashing your own kid (#20), but the proper use is as part of psy-ops warfare against your tribal/national foes. Apparently MLK was an idiot fuckup who lacked biblical values, since he should've been splattering white babies all along. Honestly, #20 being so badly misrepresented makes me think the whole rest of the list warrants greater scrutiny unless you're smugly posting to reddit.
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Mo_Steel posted:
It was also an exercise in using a severely constrained vocabulary, which makes this the equivalent of "8 bit" pixel art by people who have no idea about color palettes. VideoTapir fucked around with this message at 04:39 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Oct 7, 2014 03:41
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Crain posted:You can just google it: Wow, if the Bible were followed to the letter it would look like an even crazier culty cult than Scientology.
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I was helping a woman and her daughter at work on sunday and after going over all of the pricing options, I mentioned that taxes on the account (cell phone) would be about six dollars. The mom immediately said "yeah all those taxes coming out of my money giving those poor people Obama phones." I just kept going and totally ignored her, but the daughter told her mom stop being an idiot and to shut up. Totally unprompted, nothing political going on in the conversation and boom Obama phones. Even though they were really Bush Phones. Even though before it was a Bush Phone it was a St. Reagan Phone. I feel like she just has a rolodex of issues that when a moment pops up to throw out a buzzword, boom, there it is.
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KKKLIP ART posted:I was helping a woman and her daughter at work on sunday and after going over all of the pricing options, I mentioned that taxes on the account (cell phone) would be about six dollars. The mom immediately said "yeah all those taxes coming out of my money giving those poor people Obama phones." I just kept going and totally ignored her, but the daughter told her mom stop being an idiot and to shut up. Totally unprompted, nothing political going on in the conversation and boom Obama phones. Even though they were really Bush Phones. Even though before it was a Bush Phone it was a St. Reagan Phone. I feel like she just has a rolodex of issues that when a moment pops up to throw out a buzzword, boom, there it is. This is entirely by design. Talking points (on both sides) are presented and designed for ease of association. Someone routinely exposed to the stronger forms of partisan ideology is primed to think of, and recite, the talking point based on stimuli.
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Crain posted:You can just google it: I grew up in a ("non-") denomination with a proud tradition of rules lawyering where people would tie themselves into knots justifying why some of those verses were to be followed and others weren't. Number 2 (about divorce and remarrying being adultery) was the biggest source of debate since divorce is so common. Part of my parents' congregation split when the majority of the elders decided not to fire the preacher after his wife cheated on and then left him because what good is a preacher that can't keep his woman in line? Most members I knew interpreted that verse as meaning that divorce for any reason is technically okay, but you couldn't remarry unless your prior marriage had ended due to adultery (or the death of your spouse). Consequently, when my grandmother decided she wanted to divorce my grandfather, she cheated on him and, when she admitted it to him, reassured him that hey, at least she'd made it okay for him to remarry. That sort of thing goes on constantly. I don't know how it goes in more laid-back denominations, but most fundies will be able to gin up some sort of reasoning when called out on the things in that list. It's probably more useful as a vaccination than a cure, but sweet Jesus do I want to believe that it could delegitimize some of the poo poo I grew up immersed in.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Except the Elves in LOTR are dying out naturally and even then it's not really 'dying out' so much as 'accepting the end of their age and moving on to heaven'. Also while the Orcs are evil, yes, they're also twisted and corrupted Elves at their core, forced into such evil by Sauron rather than being truly inherently evil. In the end of LOTR there are no more Orcs and the elves go off into heaven in peace, the whole point is the war was entirely because of an outside evil. not sure if this was intentional or not..
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KKKLIP ART posted:I was helping a woman and her daughter at work on sunday and after going over all of the pricing options, I mentioned that taxes on the account (cell phone) would be about six dollars. The mom immediately said "yeah all those taxes coming out of my money giving those poor people Obama phones." I just kept going and totally ignored her, but the daughter told her mom stop being an idiot and to shut up. Totally unprompted, nothing political going on in the conversation and boom Obama phones. Even though they were really Bush Phones. Even though before it was a Bush Phone it was a St. Reagan Phone. I feel like she just has a rolodex of issues that when a moment pops up to throw out a buzzword, boom, there it is. I get good reactions when I ask, "When Ronald Reagan created the lifelines program that provides subsidized phones to low income families, why did he call them Obamaphones? Did he know Obama was going to be president? Why didn't he call them Reaganphones?"
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So... Why did Reagan decide to subsidize phones for underprivileged people? It seems really out of character for somone who was on the far right of many things
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Nckdictator posted:So... Why did Reagan decide to subsidize phones for underprivileged people? It seems really out of character for somone who was on the far right of many things Think of it less as giving poor people phones than giving bell companies buckets of cash.
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Ron Jeremy posted:Think of it less as giving poor people phones than giving bell companies buckets of cash. Also don't forget how insanely far right the country has shifted in the past couple decades. In the 1990's Obamacare was a Republican plan (not coincidentally also giving tons of cash to corporations), and now it is the epitome of "socialism." In the 80's, maybe some crazy Republicans even thought ensuring the poor had phones so that they could get and keep jobs was a good thing.
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Sometimes I wonder if the USA isn't going so far right that it is passing right through on course for The Far Side.
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Choadmaster posted:In the 1990's Obamacare was a Republican plan ... I do not remember this. Do you have any authoritative sources you can share? I would like to read up on this.
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Strudel Man posted:I just thought that Faustus wasn't really giving Christian theology a fair shake on that particular point, as the removal of the dietary laws has fairly strong and specific scriptural support. See: The last two pages of this thread, or just open a bible. Centripetal Horse there's lots of articles you can read about Obamacare (Romneycare) being a Heritage Foundation plan. http://americablog.com/2013/10/original-1989-document-heritage-foundation-created-obamacares-individual-mandate.html quote:Original 1989 document where Heritage Foundation created Obamacare’s individual mandate You'll have to go to the page to see the pictures, they contain the text. Dr. Faustus fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Choadmaster posted:In the 80's, maybe some crazy Republicans even thought ensuring the poor had phones so that they could get and keep jobs was a good thing. Increasing market penetration in multiple sectors via telecomms probably sounds like a good idea even to a modern republican, at least for the kind that thinks ahead (i.e. not internet morons). It works even if you're the kind of person who sees poor/working-class people as walking consumer-bots, as you want to increase poor communities' access to the outside world to ensure that their cashflow isn't locked up in little county general stores/company outfits/corner grocers. Subsidizing telecomms is good for Big Business because it expands the nationwide consumer base to people who normally have few spending options within easy walking/driving distance. PupsOfWar fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Centripetal Horse posted:I do not remember this. Do you have any authoritative sources you can share? I would like to read up on this. The individual mandate was a key part of Bob Dole's Republican alternative to Clinton's proposal in 1994. It was seen as insuring "personal responsibility" and eliminating the "free riders" that get emergency care for free without paying into insurance pools. All the same reasons Romney gave when it was eventually implemented in Massachusetts. Going even further back, it was originally a proposal by the Heritage Foundation as a free market alternative to achieving universal healthcare without resorting to a single payer system.
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Neruz posted:Sometimes I wonder if the USA isn't going so far right that it is passing right through on course for the far side. I'm afraid in this case it's not round. At the end there's a "Here there be dragons" sign and sudden drop-off into Hades. PupsOfWar posted:... at least for the kind that thinks ahead I'm not convinced that many of those exist (in either party, but the Republicans especially).
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Choadmaster posted:I'm afraid in this case it's not round. At the end there's a "Here there be dragons" sign and sudden drop-off into Hades. I was actually making a reference to the comic but in hindsight I should have capitalized for that.
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Ansiktsburk posted:I grew up in a ("non-") denomination with a proud tradition of rules lawyering where people would tie themselves into knots justifying why some of those verses were to be followed and others weren't. Number 2 (about divorce and remarrying being adultery) was the biggest source of debate since divorce is so common. Part of my parents' congregation split when the majority of the elders decided not to fire the preacher after his wife cheated on and then left him because what good is a preacher that can't keep his woman in line? Most members I knew interpreted that verse as meaning that divorce for any reason is technically okay, but you couldn't remarry unless your prior marriage had ended due to adultery (or the death of your spouse). Consequently, when my grandmother decided she wanted to divorce my grandfather, she cheated on him and, when she admitted it to him, reassured him that hey, at least she'd made it okay for him to remarry. Do I know you? Because this exact thing (with the preacher) happened in the "non-denominational" church I grew up in. Was it the church of Christ?
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It should be noted however, that although the individual mandate part was a (common sense) Republican plan and that is the part the Republicans complain about the most, Obamacare has many many many other parts to it that are completely against Conservative ideals and are flying by the radar because it would be extremely hard to get anyone but the hardest of hardcore up in a lather. The 80/20 rule for example, Insurance companies have to spend at least 80 percent on patient care, the pre-existing condition clause, the mental health clause and lots more. Anyone who flat out says "Obamacare was a Republican plan" is just going for an easy joke on someone or one of those "jaded" people who say "all sides are equally bad why bother *sad face* who you are completely justified ignoring, they are wrong in the end though.
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I've seen people in my rural home town falling for this Christwire article: Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness 
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I've seen people in my rural home town falling for this Christwire article: Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness I will admit that it took me a while before I decided that it was not, in fact, real. Probably not for the reasons people in your hometown think it is real, though.
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A Fancy 400 lbs posted:I've seen people in my rural home town falling for this Christwire article: Obama is Infecting Christians with Ebola To Destroy Jesus and Start A New Age of Liberal Darkness Man, literally the latter half of that title is ripped off of the Onion.
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A friend of mine posted that the PC police are running wild because the Seattle school district voted to change celebrating Columbus Day to Indigenous Peoples’ Day, with a quote "I'm glad to be out of the left coast." My first thought was "good, Columbus was an awful person anyways whose accomplishments had already been done before. Let's not celebrate that rear end in a top hat."
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smilingfish posted:Was it the church of Christ?
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Dr. Faustus posted:I think I was giving Christian theology a very fair treatment in that I didn't mention any of the much more vile poo poo in the loving bible. You talk about the "dietary restrictions" but you ignored the "trim your facial hair the wrong way and you should be murdered" part. There are certainly some pretty nasty punishments set down in the old testament, though, as you'd expect from a civilization of that era. Try Leviticus 20:9: "Anyone who curses their father or mother is to be put to death. Because they have cursed their father or mother, their blood will be on their own head." A little harsh. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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Scruff McGruff posted:
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Went looking for a post that a friend liked about Raven Symone and her "I'm not an African-American" thing with Oprah. The OP had something about "race baiters" and blah blah blah. Anyway, I couldn't find it so have this. Courtesy of "The Revolution" Facebook page. Public page so didn't bother Anonymizing.  Yeah, control. OK. Just noticed the "Liberal Logic" watermark.  I have no idea what the gently caress this is about, or the author's intentions(racism), but the "Political Correctness Must Die" was pretty awesome. ed: Oh poo poo I get it. It's "A Black Man did it!". "Anthony Johnson has GONE AND DONE IT AGAIN!" Related: "Anthony Johnson: I'm 82, and tired"  At least the first few comments were alright then right to "Fukken leftist PUSSIES! Not wanting to murder people because of their religion!"
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RareAcumen posted:Can someone give me the skinny on what all this stuff is about? Oh wait, that's a person, not syndrome. My understanding is that if you have the audacity to mention that race may have been a factor in the, detention, murdering, and/or general harassment of someone, you're a 'Race Baiter'. Also, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are 'Race Baiters' by default because reasons.
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It's gonna be great to hear conservatives tear her apart because she's in a relationship with a woman despite the fact that she's repeating their thoughts on race verbatim. I don't mean to say that her thoughts on it are negative. It's fine if that's how she feels. I don't begrudge her that, but the reality is that American society is happy to decide for itself how to label you without caring at all about your input when it comes to racial categories, sexuality, or gender. Let's see what Wikipedia has to say about it! Wikipedia posted:Raven-Symoné Christina Pearman[2] (born December 10, 1985),[3] known professionally as Raven-Symoné (pronounced /ˈreɪ.vən sɪˈmoʊn/, as though unaccented), or simply Raven, is an African American actress, singer, comedian, dancer, television producer and model. ErIog fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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