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I really enjoyed this. Part of my enjoyment came from the fact I was sitting next to someone who took the movie very seriously. He just saw there with his hand on his chin the whole time studying this film. This movie was important to him. It's also great to hear the audience laugh at every terrible piece of slapstick. I loved all the action sequences that came out of nowhere, the jump scares, the preaching, it was all good stuff. Add in some of the worst CGI you'll see all year and you have a winner. It's not quite as insane as the Cloud Ten version, but in its own ways (the nonsensical action sequences) it is mighty crazy.
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DStecks posted:Apparently the Antichrist isn't even in it. It's just an adaptation of like the first third of the book. The first third of the first book in a 12 book series? Do they really plan on making a 36 movie series? My mom buys me Christian fiction books all the time, so she got me that whole series for my birthday one year. I attempted to read the first one, I got about halfway through it, and I thought Twilight had better prose.
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Oct 4, 2014 16:53
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Yeah it's in about the same theaters and earning the same as God's Not Dead did earlier this year. It's still making a pretty low amount in the grand scheme of things. However considering the production values, I figure this HAS to make a profit.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Yeah it's in about the same theaters and earning the same as God's Not Dead did earlier this year. It's still making a pretty low amount in the grand scheme of things. However considering the production values, I figure this HAS to make a profit. Evidently, the production costs is valued at around 20 million. With a side of scandal in the link because, of course they are.
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There have been ALOT of Christian movies this year. Are Christian movie studios becoming more of a thing or has this always been a thing? Also, there are 12 books in the Left Behind series? What the gently caress goes on in those books that it requires 12 books. BigRed0427 fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Oct 5, 2014 |
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Christian movies have been a thing for a while now, but I think this was the first year that so many of them got wide releases. (Prior to this, most of it was straight-to-video or limited to Christian film festivals and/or specific theaters in, mostly, the South.) I don't know if that's because the Christian film industry is exploding or because movie theaters are branching out to more niche stuff in order to bring in audiences that wouldn't normally attend. It seemed like around the time that Soul Surfer came out, a lot of the mainstream studios were opening faith-based lines or trying to find Christian films that might be able to cross over to a non-evangelical (but still mildly-to-moderately religious) audience that's looking for family friendly stuff. I'm guessing we'll see more and more of it in the coming years.
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I thin a few things are really helping Christian films get big. First off, the end of 35mm film as the distribution method is a big boon. Basically, printing thousands of copies of your film onto film is pretty expensive, and it's expensive to ship and expensive to produce. It just adds a lot of money to the cost of getting your film out there. And chances are for a lot of theaters, since these are niche films, they're able to show these films more readily since they don't have to worry about having a film print. Also, a lot of theaters in general are bringing in more niche and independent films to more local theaters. Digital distribution is also something that helped out. Before, a lot of these films were only available in Christian bookstores, so if you wanted them, you had to go and look for them. Now, once again, you can get it on Netflix. You can easily get it to theaters. You can get it in the same storespace as super awesome superhero film #33. Also, the fact that getting buzz is different today than it has been in the past has also helped out a bit. I mean, think about the year 2000. There wasn't Facebook or Youtube or Netflix or anything like that. Now, you can do a lot more marketing to interested people and be more successful. Also, the fact that a lot of these movies don't look like rear end also helps. Like, look at Fireproof (aka, the Christian Don Jon... and probably much more entertaining to watch). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzXI8W6_uTs Just look. It looks cheap. It feels cheap. It's like the second season of Andy Richter Controls the Universe when they switched from film to HD Video. It's just cheap. Compare it God's Not Dead. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc5s1ZKNmcc That looks like a film. It looks like it was shot by people who know how to make a movie look like a movie and not... a low grade pornography film. I also think that there's more attempt to be... well, better. Let's face it. Fireproof isn't going to appeal to anyone who lives in the real world. "YOU DISRESPECTFUL, UNGRATEFUL, SELFISH WOMAN!" I mean come on. Is that something anybody would say? Go back to God's Not Dead. It's a lot closer than Fireproof. It's still reflective of a bizarre worldview, but let's put it this way. Kevin Sorbo is an actor who is miles ahead of Kirk Cameron. Finally, I think as ticket sales go down and attendance patterns change, movie studios are trying to go after any market they can. They view Christians as hungry for material, and so they're hoping they can make Christian films that will get some families to show up too.
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BigRed0427 posted:There have been ALOT of Christian movies this year. Are Christian movie studios becoming more of a thing or has this always been a thing? Rapture movies date back to the early 70s, maybe earlier. Find A Thief in the Night on youtube and watch a bit of it. It's really weird because the people making it have no idea how to make a movie, in the sense that they don't know what a movie looks like or how it is paced. For years Christian movies were church events, even up to the original Left Behind adaptations. They were shown in churches, at church groups, or those kind of events and so they appealed to that audience. Cemetary Gator's post is a good summation of why it has evolved into a mainstream theater going experience.
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Oct 5, 2014 08:43
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My own church had a movie night last weekend. We watched Luther (2003) 'cause we're Lutherans commemorating Reformation month. It was a decent movie - excellent production values and attention to historical accuracy, so-so story - making it quite good for a movie funded by a religious organization.
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Oct 5, 2014 10:45
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BigRed0427 posted:Also, there are 12 books in the Left Behind series? What the gently caress goes on in those books that it requires 12 books. I read a few of the books as a kid, and from what I understand, the writers devote a book to each phase of the post-rapture armageddon world. Like, there's a book dedicated to everyone taking the mark of the beast, one dedicated to the antichrist getting assassinated, etc. Looking back, holy poo poo...They managed to publish three of these things in 1999 alone. And these aren't slim volumes either  Those 12 books also don't count the three prequel books and something called "Kingdom Come: The Final Victory" that came out in 2007. Also, for the uninitiated, here's a list of spectacular names the writers gave some of the characters: Tsion Ben-Judah, Hannah Palemoon, Aurelio Sequoia Figueroa, Guy Blod, Naomi Tiberias, Leonardo Fortunato, Viv Ivins, Verna Zee, and of course, Supreme Potentate Nicolae Carpathia (guess where he's from!)
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Oct 5, 2014 18:52
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Wildeyes posted:I read a few of the books as a kid, and from what I understand, the writers devote a book to each phase of the post-rapture armageddon world. Like, there's a book dedicated to everyone taking the mark of the beast, one dedicated to the antichrist getting assassinated, etc. In the Glorious Appearing, when the Big Jesus himself finally returns, he does things like speak scripture which makes people's heads explode, runs around Megiddo at a thousand miles an hour like the Flash, and demands that all who do not bow to him be beheaded (including those whose only 'crime' is that they're Jewish or Muslim). Also Nicolae Carpathia gets the entire world to believe in his one-world government and happily join it by... naming every country in the United Nations during a speech. Apparently people in the world of Left Behind are easy to impress.
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Pinball posted:In the Glorious Appearing, when the Big Jesus himself finally returns, he does things like speak scripture which makes people's heads explode, runs around Megiddo at a thousand miles an hour like the Flash, and demands that all who do not bow to him be beheaded (including those whose only 'crime' is that they're Jewish or Muslim). 
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Oct 6, 2014 04:04
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Hey man, who can remember countries like Gabon, or East Timor, or Tuvalu. I mean, seriously. Wikipedia can name all of them. Guys, if Wikipedia asks me to join the one world republic, I'm there.
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Oct 6, 2014 04:51
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Wildeyes posted:I read a few of the books as a kid, and from what I understand, the writers devote a book to each phase of the post-rapture armageddon world. Like, there's a book dedicated to everyone taking the mark of the beast, one dedicated to the antichrist getting assassinated, etc. I read the whole 12-book series as a teenager.  I started when I was religious, but then I kept reading because I just had to know what happened. Holy poo poo. Why did I read all 12 books?
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Oct 6, 2014 06:38
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Wildeyes posted:Also, for the uninitiated, here's a list of spectacular names the writers gave some of the characters: Tsion Ben-Judah, Hannah Palemoon, Aurelio Sequoia Figueroa, Guy Blod, Naomi Tiberias, Leonardo Fortunato, Viv Ivins, Verna Zee, and of course, Supreme Potentate Nicolae Carpathia (guess where he's from!) I want to be Guy Blod.
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I don't think I got far enough to get to know Guy Blod, but from what I'm reading, he was vaguely written as a flamboyant homo (on the side of evil, of course). Maybe Mordiceius can confirm/deny.
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Oct 6, 2014 13:09
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They also did a really goofy thing in that any character that was written as speaking directly for God would only use Bible quotes.
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Wildeyes posted:Looking back, holy poo poo...They managed to publish three of these things in 1999 alone. And these aren't slim volumes either If you remember back to then, there were people that legitimately thought the world was going to end with Y2K. That's just good marketing and knowing your stupid, stupid audience.
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I just read the wiki on the last book and Jesus apparently crushes a dude's head with his foot as the dude is crawling away so that he can get some blood on his robes and satisfy a prophecy from Ezekiel. Jesus don't gently caress around after the rapture. gently caress your peace and mercy. Also one of the characters changes his name from Buck to "Cameron." Subtle.
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Wildeyes posted:I read a few of the books as a kid, and from what I understand, the writers devote a book to each phase of the post-rapture armageddon world. Like, there's a book dedicated to everyone taking the mark of the beast, one dedicated to the antichrist getting assassinated, etc. It's also pretty amazing just how much of LaHaye's theological beliefs are filtered through his Bircher paranoia (although a lot of that can also be laid at the feet of Hal Lindsey). We can probably thank him and Jenkins for making at least some of that more mainstream. I feel like you could create a compelling drama based on End Times prophecies, but when your source material is that of a nutcase and a ghostwriting, "as told to hack," you're pretty much poo poo out of luck.
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Wildeyes posted:I don't think I got far enough to get to know Guy Blod, but from what I'm reading, he was vaguely written as a flamboyant homo (on the side of evil, of course). ... Yeah I still want to be Guy Blod. Evil flamboyant homosexuals are awesome and should be in movies more.
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Grendels Dad posted:Evil flamboyant homosexuals are awesome and should be in movies more.
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Forgall posted:That's something I'd really rather avoid. I would too, if they're depicted as not-awesome. I am talking about Commando here, but I do get that Commando probably isn't a very Christian movie.
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BigRed0427 posted:Also, there are 12 books in the Left Behind series? What the gently caress goes on in those books that it requires 12 books. Don't forget the video game franchise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJPWR5igYVU
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You know, I just finished reading the Bible recently and it still astounds me that people who identify with Christianity have never even taken the time to read the book. I kind of have a feeling that maybe some of these Christian films are based off of a loose reading of the Bible. I mean, if you are going to make a Christian film, why not just make some movies about David, Solomon, or Saul's conversion to Christianity? I mean you can even use the Roman Empire as some sort of corporation that controls and produces everything. You know, maybe I should write a screen play...
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KingsPawn posted:You know, I just finished reading the Bible recently and it still astounds me that people who identify with Christianity have never even taken the time to read the book. I kind of have a feeling that maybe some of these Christian films are based off of a loose reading of the Bible. I mean, if you are going to make a Christian film, why not just make some movies about David, Solomon, or Saul's conversion to Christianity? I mean you can even use the Roman Empire as some sort of corporation that controls and produces everything. You know, maybe I should write a screen play... Much as Protestants hate to admit it, there's a cultural reading that must be done in line with reading the Bible itself, and can vary wildly from culture to culture.
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computer parts posted:Much as Protestants hate to admit it, there's a cultural reading that must be done in line with reading the Bible itself, and can vary wildly from culture to culture. Yeah, but even then, why so many bad movies?! I would totally be fine with watching Christian films through the lens of an Afghani, Chinese, Russian or Deep-South Appalachian director. It just seems like the evangelicals are making things too cliché and too easy. It just smells of low effort. I would not be surprised if the people making these films are running a scheme like Mel Brooks imagined in the Producers. But maybe I'm not the person or demographic for Christian films. For example, I enjoyed Noah as bot a Sci-fi post nuclear war film and as a Christian film.
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KingsPawn posted:Yeah, but even then, why so many bad movies?! I would totally be fine with watching Christian films through the lens of an Afghani, Chinese, Russian or Deep-South Appalachian director. It just seems like the evangelicals are making things too cliché and too easy. It just smells of low effort. I would not be surprised if the people making these films are running a scheme like Mel Brooks imagined in the Producers. Here's the thing - the type of people that are making these films have a cliched and easy understanding of Christianity. Follow the Bible, and everything will work out just right. If the Evangelical religion lacks subtext and subtlety, why would you expect their films to be anything but the most hollow of tripe? The other thing too is that they're making films cheaply to try and make their message bluntly. Like, there was some film somebody linked here about a girl with a terminal disease, and the best part was on Christmas morning, where she comes down stairs all bright and chipper, and is like "Can I open a present," and then the next thing you know, she's under the tree, dead! It's just cheap and sappy and utterly ridiculous. But they're happy because she's with God!
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Cemetry Gator posted:Here's the thing - the type of people that are making these films have a cliched and easy understanding of Christianity. Follow the Bible, and everything will work out just right. If the Evangelical religion lacks subtext and subtlety, why would you expect their films to be anything but the most hollow of tripe? C Me Dance is absolutely hilarious. Don't forget this is the same girl who solves the scourge of pornography 40 minutes earlier.
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KingsPawn posted:You know, I just finished reading the Bible recently and it still astounds me that people who identify with Christianity have never even taken the time to read the book. I kind of have a feeling that maybe some of these Christian films are based off of a loose reading of the Bible. I mean, if you are going to make a Christian film, why not just make some movies about David, Solomon, or Saul's conversion to Christianity? I mean you can even use the Roman Empire as some sort of corporation that controls and produces everything. You know, maybe I should write a screen play... I'd love to see a play or a movie about King Saul. It's like a classic Greek tragedy - a great man brought down by his hubris.
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Pththya-lyi posted:I'd love to see a play or a movie about King Saul. It's like a classic Greek tragedy - a great man brought down by his hubris. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kings_(U.S._TV_series) Darn good show killed too early.
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I quote this religious movie way more than I should: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDAYBm9MyZQ
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Cemetry Gator posted:Here's the thing - the type of people that are making these films have a cliched and easy understanding of Christianity. It also stands to be said that a lot of these movies are directly pandering to Evangelical and conservative Christian audiences, but are not well received by Christian critics. Look up the Christian critical reaction to Heaven is for Real. Guess what? They don't like it. Orthodox religious types tend to be very suspicious of mainstream media. They aren't stupid. They are very much conscious that what they view could potentially drat them to Hell. I'm getting God's Not Dead from Netflix in a few weeks, but I also had the chance to watch Moms Night Out, which is basically a perfect example of a secular Christian film. Don't get me wrong, it's still bad, but you're gonna learn a lot more about contemporary Christianity from watching this than you are Heaven is for Real and probably God's Not Dead. Why? Because on a surface level it has no pretensions about being a Christian film. It's just a generic 'crazy night' comedy with a Christian allegory shoe-horned into it. That's how most Christians experience Christianity. Not as this powerful, all-defining, Evangelical experience; or even as a defiant stand-off against atheism. They experience it as generic living with Christian accoutrements. In a way, Moms Night Out cuts through the crap to the basic shallow emotional pretenses of middle-class life and 'white people problems.' While most generic dramas and comedies don't have the balls to come right out and say it, the conclusion of the film is literally that God and faith will solve all your problems, even if you yourself do nothing practically to affect a change. The concern is about feeling good about compromise, not in actually confronting a scenario where a 'happy ending' isn't possible.
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Pththya-lyi posted:I'd love to see a play or a movie about King Saul. It's like a classic Greek tragedy - a great man brought down by his hubris. Yes. An epic trilogy about David would be amazing as well with the right director in charge. Part one - David vs. Goliath. Part two - Tragedy of Saul and David's rise to power (Make sure to really play up the Jonathan and David relationship angle). Part three- Tragedy of David - Bathsheba and Absalom.
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Malaleb posted:Yes. An epic trilogy about David would be amazing as well with the right director in charge. Part one - David vs. Goliath. Part two - Tragedy of Saul and David's rise to power (Make sure to really play up the Jonathan and David relationship angle). Part three- Tragedy of David - Bathsheba and Absalom. I don't think this would be received well solely because everybody has heard about David vs. Goliath and would go in expecting it's the focus of David's entire story, then reject the rest because lol where are the battles?
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Grendels Dad posted:I don't think this would be received well solely because everybody has heard about David vs. Goliath and would go in expecting it's the focus of David's entire story, then reject the rest because lol where are the battles?
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FrostedButts posted:I quote this religious movie way more than I should: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDAYBm9MyZQ This is my new favorite thing
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Reposting this from the PYF Movie Posters thread, Kirk Cameron is set to make you hate the holiday season! The trailer is jaw-droppingly awful, with Kirk himself narrating it in such a smug tone I want to punch both him AND Allen Thicke just for being TV related to him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5-yA66kaVc (Late edit: Whoops, should have read back three pages!) Distorted Kiwi fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Nov 12, 2014 |
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