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Clanpot Shake posted:On this topic, I've got several ambitious, powerful king-level vassals. I've imprisoned everyone I've found plotting against me, but some of them manage to keep their nose clean. This is an issue because they refuse to vote for my chosen successor because they hate me, even though he is a total badass. What can I do about these assholes? Viceroys in the new expansion are going to be a nice solution to this.
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Clanpot Shake posted:On this topic, I've got several ambitious, powerful king-level vassals. I've imprisoned everyone I've found plotting against me, but some of them manage to keep their nose clean. This is an issue because they refuse to vote for my chosen successor because they hate me, even though he is a total badass. What can I do about these assholes? Slowly revoke their titles, destroying the Kingdoms as opinion allows. It may take generations, but it will be well worth the headache. In the mean time set your chancellor and spymaster on scheme/improve relations duty to keep them out of factions.
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ChikoDemono posted:Never saw this before: What happens if the Emperor inherits? Does the Holy Roman Empire and Papacy become conjoined? Does the Pope become ludicrously powerful and begin annexing surrounding territory?
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VerdantSquire posted:
All those provinces and still no separate Ards Peninsula. I just want to conquer the world from Newtownards!
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QuoProQuid posted:What happens if the Emperor inherits? Does the Holy Roman Empire and Papacy become conjoined? Does the Pope become ludicrously powerful and begin annexing surrounding territory? Na it will just pass the emperorship down the line just like when any other cardinal inherits. It would be fun to disable that part of inheritance, get all bishoprics being controlled by the pope...
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VerdantSquire posted:So I was on the paradox forums looking for a mod to try and get me back into CK2, and I stumbled across a very ... interesting, mod. I'm not sure how to describe it, other than through a comparison: You know SWMH, the map mod that adds an absolutely impractical and silly number of provinces into the game, to the point of insanity? That'd be pretty fun, if I owned a supercomputer.
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VerdantSquire posted:So I was on the paradox forums looking for a mod to try and get me back into CK2, and I stumbled across a very ... interesting, mod. I'm not sure how to describe it, other than through a comparison: You know SWMH, the map mod that adds an absolutely impractical and silly number of provinces into the game, to the point of insanity? This is really dumb, but that flat map is real nice.
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So by the sound of it, hopefully viceroys seem like a fantastic way of sidestepping the problem of having to deal with King vassals. A vassal who holds your title yet has no claims to it, who tends to like you via the appointment of said position, seems fantastic. I feel that tech is probably what is going to limit its effectiveness.
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Can anyone suggest a Muslim equivalent of Ireland for an easy playthrough? I've been trying to make a go of the Shi'ite guy in Sicily in 1066, but a Sunni ruler in Libya always declares holy war on me and one of the Christian lords in southern Italy always jumps on me while I'm distracted.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:That'd be pretty fun, if I owned a supercomputer. ...Now I have this interesting image of the Alpha Centauri cast playing this. It's an odd image.
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Contingency Plan posted:Can anyone suggest a Muslim equivalent of Ireland for an easy playthrough? I've been trying to make a go of the Shi'ite guy in Sicily in 1066, but a Sunni ruler in Libya always declares holy war on me and one of the Christian lords in southern Italy always jumps on me while I'm distracted. In 1066, Seville (Abbadid Dynasty, I think), or the Zirid Dynasty in Tunisia (slightly harder start)
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Contingency Plan posted:Can anyone suggest a Muslim equivalent of Ireland for an easy playthrough? I've been trying to make a go of the Shi'ite guy in Sicily in 1066, but a Sunni ruler in Libya always declares holy war on me and one of the Christian lords in southern Italy always jumps on me while I'm distracted. Spain is a good spot. Lots of smaller states in 1066 to choose from and easy Holy War targets to the north. I've had some fun with the Granada start in 1241 - you're flanked by potential allies (or expansion targets), and the Christians are still weak enough for opportunistic wars.
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# ? Oct 8, 2014 04:41 |
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So we're never getting CD Keys on Steam again and I'm never going to play a mod, right?
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Thanks guys, I successfully incorporated gwynedd into the Irish kingdom, is there any way to get my country back from the new duke besides just stripping him of it Edit: oh wait I thought he'd oust and move to gwynedd, and he didn't ImPureAwesome fucked around with this message at 05:05 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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Eric the Mauve posted:So we're never getting CD Keys on Steam again and I'm never going to play a mod, right?
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Eric the Mauve posted:So we're never getting CD Keys on Steam again and I'm never going to play a mod, right? Some weirdness between Paradox and Steam means that CD keys aren't viewable after the free weekend until, well, whenever. They said sometime this week though. Speaking of alternate hosting for mods, though, CK2+ is now on the Steam Workshop (as of, literally, this evening) so those of you who like it now have one less reason to ever go to the Paradox forums.
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Eric the Mauve posted:So we're never getting CD Keys on Steam again and I'm never going to play a mod, right? Yeah I would really like forum access. Bummer.
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QuoProQuid posted:What happens if the Emperor inherits? Does the Holy Roman Empire and Papacy become conjoined? Does the Pope become ludicrously powerful and begin annexing surrounding territory? It was actually pretty lame. He gave up his emperor-ship to become pope. I didn't approve so I pressed his claim on the HRE. Now he's the pope and the emperor. Of course, it was also a bad idea as the pope was originally my vassal. Now he has my land.
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So I had the duchess of Flanders with a weak claim in my court and single province brugge with no allies is fighting itself but when I landed the duchess's husband and pressed the claim I didn't get brugge, how do I do this right. Edit: I also tried assassinating her, her first daughter who was not inheriting the county to get to the daughter inheriting both, and her husband and all I managed to do was give away my county gwent to Flanders ImPureAwesome fucked around with this message at 09:36 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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And so this game continues to confuse. I started up as Petty King of Sjaelland in the Old Gods start, so I could get the feel of playing a viking (figuring I already had most of the common mechanics down okayish). Everything is going fine - I've formed the Kingdom of Denmark, my king is 70, and I've got only one legitimate child who will inherit both Denmark and also the Petty Kingdom of Northumbria from my wife. Awesome. Except spontaneously, my son is excluded from the line of succession. He goes back to third. He's definitely still capable of having children, he's fine, he's still alive. I'm not in any kind of elective succession - still Gavelkind. Now, the heir is for some reason my son-in-law (married into my family matrilineally, he was the bastard son of another King who had drat good stats so I poached him and made him marshall), who is set to inherit everything and end the game because he's not of my dynasty. What could have happened? I'm not sure. More importantly, how do I fix this fast because my king is 70. I can't assassinate him for some reason, the game won't let me (even though I don't have an active plot). Is reloading the only thing I can do? Everything was going so well up until now. Loving the game, but sometimes it gets really confusing.
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ImPureAwesome posted:So I had the duchess of Flanders with a weak claim in my court and single province brugge with no allies is fighting itself but when I landed the duchess's husband and pressed the claim I didn't get brugge, how do I do this right. Okay, time to get another one of these out the way: Rules for expanding through pressing claims. A. Potential wars: 1. Claimant has a strong claim: you can always press that claim. 2. Claimant has a weak claim and is male: you can press that claim IF the current holder is female OR the current holder is under a regency (due to age, pilgrimage, prison,...) OR the title is already being contested. 3. Claimant has a weak claim and is female: you can press that claim IF the current holder is under a regency (due to age, pilgrimage, prison,...) OR the title is already being contested. B. Rules for territory expansion: When pressing a claim, the territory disputed will join your territory IF: 1. The claimant holds a title under your rulership, be that a kingdom, duchy, county or barony, as long as they hold a title under your wise rulership AND the contested title is lower than your current title (meaning you are a king: duchy or county, you are a duke: county) then their territory will join yours upon victory. 2. The claimant is of your dynasty AND the contested title is lower than your current title (meaning you are a king: duchy or county, you are a duke: county) then their territory will join yours upon victory. All other cases the claimant will go independent upon victory or be a vassal to the liege lord of the contested title. In the above example: you didn't land the duchess, you landed the duke; then pressed the duchess' claim. you should have landed the duchess and the pressed her claim. Unfortunately due to inheritance laws you probably couldn't give land to female rulers. double nine fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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double nine posted:Okay, time to get another one of these out the way: Also note "of your dynasty" means the blood drop icon is there, your mom or wife or whatever are not dynasty members, in this sense, and will be independent
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I've never tried this because I've been burned a bunch pressing claims for people outside my dynasty so hard that I don't even do it anymore, but just to clarify, you're saying you could basically find any claimant on a duchy you want (if you're a king), invite him to court, grant him a mayor spot for some new city you built, then press his claim on a duchy, and he'll be your vassal? What if he's a vassals vassal?
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Volkerball posted:I've never tried this because I've been burned a bunch pressing claims for people outside my dynasty so hard that I don't even do it anymore, but just to clarify, you're saying you could basically find any claimant on a duchy you want (if you're a king), invite him to court, grant him a mayor spot for some new city you built, then press his claim on a duchy, and he'll be your vassal? What if he's a vassals vassal? Yes, that's how it works You can also breed them with dynasty members and then press the inherited claim, if the claim is inheritable The only real downside is having someone control a county on one side of the empire and a city on the other side and eventually loving up the de jure dutchies
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Ok so if I can't land females, then the claim is relatively useless to me no matter what I would have done right?. Thanks for the help guys
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ImPureAwesome posted:Ok so if I can't land females, then the claim is relatively useless to me no matter what I would have done right?. Thanks for the help guys You can press her claim if the situation is right, and have her married to your heir or yourself or something.
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Yes, that's how it works Yeah, but that takes a long goddamn time, because if you find a claimant who's older than 16, they're going to be married, so you have to assassinate their husband/wife, which often is only going to get one or two weak rear end people who you can pay enough to invite to the plot. So the only way to really be sure is to snap them up on a betrothal before their 16, and then wait for them to have kids and die. The way he's talking about, you could pick a duchy you want, and be pressing a claim on it the same day. You could expand so much quicker.
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ImPureAwesome posted:Ok so if I can't land females, then the claim is relatively useless to me no matter what I would have done right?. Thanks for the help guys If it's inheritable and she's married to someone in your dynasty, it's not. Just press the claim of the kid when she dies of X causes.
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My CDKey appeared in Steam this morning. Yay.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:That'd be pretty fun, if I owned a supercomputer. To be fair, this province layout may be fun if the map was just France. A mods which focus on single regions of Europe, probably along the lines of Winter King, could be pretty fun. Duchies with lots of provinces may also be fun for playing very low level vassals like counts, since it would mean more competition early on. Of course, this mod fucks that up by virtue of wanting to do the whole map like this, and apparently the modder even wants to expand the map to China.
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# ? Oct 8, 2014 14:07 |
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Thought this was kinda cool: these revolters in Irland were all landed women.
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VerdantSquire posted:To be fair, this province layout may be fun if the map was just France. A mods which focus on single regions of Europe, probably along the lines of Winter King, could be pretty fun. Duchies with lots of provinces may also be fun for playing very low level vassals like counts, since it would mean more competition early on. Of course, this mod fucks that up by virtue of wanting to do the whole map like this, and apparently the modder even wants to expand the map to China. Oh man, playing mod which focuses on a specific part of Europe would be a ton of fun. Instead of having hordes you could periodically have other kingdoms "invade" from off screen too! It makes me sad that I don't have any programming chops, I'd love to make a huge mod as a hobby someday :/.
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Holy poo poo Balderik! That's just cold man. double nine fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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Oh, you don't get kinslayer for executing your bastards?
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LOL, why the hell would he execute his own toddler daughter? Did she break the cookie jar? An actually interesting piece of drama that happened in a recent game: My character's youngest son (age 5) was murdered on the orders of his oldest son and heir's (age 25) wife (because reasons, I guess? ) Adding an extra layer of intrigue to the scenario was the fact that a few years before, my character had had, ah, shall we say... a period of indiscretion with said daughter-in-law, which has since ended and been kept secret by both parties--but which she may feel inclined to bring up at a trial for her life. And to boot, my character was known as "the Just" and renowned for his justice and honesty. I actually paused the game and spent a few minutes pondering what from a roleplaying perspective this king would do in this situation. Have her tried and executed? If so, lie to your court and dismiss her accusations of a prior affair as the rantings of a crazy woman? Or, as a man who has always prided himself on scrupulous honesty, acknowledge the truth of them and risk making permanent enemies of your wife and your heir? Or to avoid having to make that choice, quietly arrange an "accident"? Sure, it violates the noble right of a trial before the king, but she definitely deserves it anyway, right? And remember, he has to make this decision pretty quickly (because who knows what else she might be planning or who might be in it with her) and he has to do so under the extreme duress of having just learned your toddler son has been murdered.
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Torrannor posted:Oh, you don't get kinslayer for executing your bastards? He's dead now and I forgot to check, but I'm pretty sure there's some tyranny involved there. I can't think of a way to imprison and execute a child without incurring some vassal irritation.
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VerdantSquire posted:To be fair, this province layout may be fun if the map was just France. A mods which focus on single regions of Europe, probably along the lines of Winter King, could be pretty fun. Duchies with lots of provinces may also be fun for playing very low level vassals like counts, since it would mean more competition early on. Of course, this mod fucks that up by virtue of wanting to do the whole map like this, and apparently the modder even wants to expand the map to China. There is no way that is possible. The sheer number of characters would just make the game engine crash, regardless of the computer.
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# ? Oct 8, 2014 15:59 |
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New Dev Diary for Charlemange! This one seems to go into depth about the new tribal vassals.
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VerdantSquire posted:New Dev Diary for Charlemange! This one seems to go into depth about the new tribal vassals. More important than that, the patch changelog: quote:2014-10-14: v2.2 Charlemagne Bolded some stuff I found interesting, or have seen mentioned by people here as bugs they've encountered. KOGAHAZAN!! fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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quote:- Wars can no longer be won before a major battle has taken place or 3 years have passed Oh Jesus.
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