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Polo-Rican posted:I wonder if it was a business decision rather than a tech decision. I don't have a pro controller yet, and there's no way I'd ever buy one if the adaptor let me use a GC controller. I already have a bunch of GC controllers laying around unused - why would I blow $50+ on a Pro when I can use something I already own that works fantastically? It probably is mostly a tech issue, seeing as none of the current library is programmed to recognize the adapter, and a Gamecube controller has fewer buttons than a Pro. Jury-rigging a solution would take a bunch of effort for a result that would still cause playability problems for a lot of games (anything that uses the - or ZL buttons, or the clickable sticks). Best case scenario is that suitable existing games get support patched in (Mariokart 8 is getting its first DLC update in November and I could see GC controller support being added at that time), and future games feature it as a standard alongside the other 5 or so options. Supercar Gautier fucked around with this message at 20:11 on Oct 8, 2014 |
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There's no excuse for the Wii U's controllers not to work on the integrated last-gen system. There are already enough different confusing accessories for the Wii U, it sucks that they're forcing people to have, remember, switch between and use all of them. That's just unfriendly. And it's not like because the new controller is bluetooth and the old one is wifi that compatibility cannot be in-built, the hardware is all there. Not gonna give Nintendo a pass on this one. Yes I understand that the Wii is apparently literally a Wii built into the Wii U.
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Nolgthorn posted:Yes I understand that the Wii is apparently literally a Wii built into the Wii U. Yes, and that's exactly why the new controllers won't work for it. You kinda shot your own argument in the foot there.
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Well there goes my theory that it could have been theoretically used for potential GameCube Virtual Console... 
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Well this looks like the winning choice.
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Nolgthorn posted:There's no excuse for the Wii U's controllers not to work on the integrated last-gen system. There are already enough different confusing accessories for the Wii U, it sucks that they're forcing people to have, remember, switch between and use all of them. That's just unfriendly. And it's not like because the new controller is bluetooth and the old one is wifi that compatibility cannot be in-built, the hardware is all there. Not gonna give Nintendo a pass on this one. It's not like there's a button that says "make controllers work" that nintendo haven't pressed. It takes time and money to work these things out. It's fairly lowdown on Nintendo's priorities and the wii u's selling points to bother. If it's as easy as you think they'd have just done it. Compared to their competitor's backwards compatibility, it's one area Nintendo is actually doing pretty well.
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Admiral H. Curtiss posted:The WiiU Pro Controller absolutely uses Bluetooth. The gamepad uses some 5.4 GHz signal for the image, I'm not sure if it uses that same signal for input. it does, the GamePad has no bluetooth components at all. input travels on the same band as the a/v stream, which the vWii can't (currently) percieve. when you try to use the GamePad controls in vWii mode, it's the Gamepad's FIRMWARE that throws up the error message; the vWii/WiiU is blind to it.
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Nolgthorn posted:There's no excuse for the Wii U's controllers not to work on the integrated last-gen system. There are already enough different confusing accessories for the Wii U, it sucks that they're forcing people to have, remember, switch between and use all of them. That's just unfriendly. And it's not like because the new controller is bluetooth and the old one is wifi that compatibility cannot be in-built, the hardware is all there. Not gonna give Nintendo a pass on this one. Is this guy being serious or doing a really good parody?
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Chronojam posted:Is this guy being serious or doing a really good parody? he's not a bad guy he's just like this a lot
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With Indiecade happening, I was able to pick up a few tentative release dates, so Beatbuddy, Sportsball, and Runbow have had tentative release dates added to the OP. I've only just heard of Runbow and Sportsball. Both seem like fairly entertaining games, although the sportsball trailer makes it VERY difficult to tell what's going on.
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If you can play Wii U games with the wiimote then interpreting inputs with the classic controller should be the same as it was with the regular wii.
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Chronojam posted:Is this guy being serious or doing a really good parody? Same person who claimed you needed to be a Nintendo expert to take advantage of the digital deluxe promotion and claimed Nintendo was trying to hide it from people. At this point I think they are successfully trolling.
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jivjov posted:Yes, and that's exactly why the new controllers won't work for it. You kinda shot your own argument in the foot there. Couldn't they update the Wii inside the WiiU firmware?
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Besides, the only actual required to make all games work controllers are 1 pad (included) and 4 remote pluses/nunchucks.
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greatn posted:Couldn't they update the Wii inside the WiiU firmware? They could, but the way the Wii works internally is weird and (to put it really simply) Wii games just use whatever the latest version of the firmware was when they came out. It's built into each individual game. It's the reason Brawl can't recognize SDHC cards and they didn't upgrade the internal memory for vWii. So they could update the firmware to recognize the GC adapter, but it would only work with games that have yet to come out (no patching!) and are designed to take advantage of it. Which are none. It's the reason I was kinda amazed they said it would work on the Wii in the first place, technically it shouldn't be possible. absolutely anything fucked around with this message at 00:47 on Oct 9, 2014 |
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absolutely anything posted:They could, but the way the Wii works internally is weird and (to put it really simply) Wii games just use whatever the latest version of the firmware was when they came out. It's built into each individual game. It's the reason Brawl can't recognize SDHC cards and they didn't upgrade the internal memory for vWii. So they could update the firmware to recognize the GC adapter, but it would only work with games that have yet to come out (no patching!) and are designed to take advantage of it. Which are none. Yeah the only way that could have worked is if they could find a way to trick the system into treating the adapter as the original Wii GC controller ports, which sounds difficult at the very least.
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Syka posted:Yeah the only way that could have worked is if they could find a way to trick the system into treating the adapter as the original Wii GC controller ports, which sounds difficult at the very least. Well considering they made the Wii mode able to output to the gamepad despite the difficulties involved in that, they might be able to pull something off.
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If we can't use the GC adapters for anything but Smash then I guess I will never get to play my N64 VC games in Wii mode.
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PoshAlligator posted:If we can't use the GC adapters for anything but Smash then I guess I will never get to play my N64 VC games in Wii mode. You could... always get a Classic Controller?
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DoctorWhat posted:You could... always get a Classic Controller? Those are out of print and are like $40 now.
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Oct 9, 2014 13:09
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Just get one of these They're each $25 and coming out soon, one from PDP and one from HORI
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Oct 9, 2014 13:12
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If they add GameCube controller support for even one more game, or the Wii mode, I'll be happy
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DK Bongo support for Kirby Rainbow Curse, please.
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ChaosArgate posted:Those are out of print and are like $40 now. 8 bucks on amazon http://www.amazon.com/Classic-contr...ssic+controller
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"By Generic" should be a huge red flag. Spend those $8 on something better.
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You can tell if they're real or not because the genuine ones have "Wii" above the home button. Those are most definitely knockoffs.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You can tell if they're real or not because the genuine ones have "Wii" above the home button. Those are most definitely knockoffs. Well yeah, that too. Almost every knockoff I've ever seen follows that rule of never having logos. They're already made to look like a legitimate product and decieve people into thinking as such, why leave off such an important detail?
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RMZXAnarchy posted:Well yeah, that too. Almost every knockoff I've ever seen follows that rule of never having logos. They're already made to look like a legitimate product and decieve people into thinking as such, why leave off such an important detail? There's a difference between making a legal look-alike and counterfeiting a registered trademark.
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Cross-posting from the Bayo 2 thread:JordanKai posted:
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Austrian mook posted:EU gets a demo and not NA? Maybe we're getting it later today.
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I got one of these and it's really cheap-feeling. Light as hell, you have to really jam on the buttons to get them to register, the octagonal gate around the control sticks doesn't work because the sticks don't go out that far, and the dpad suuuucccks. It works fine for Paper Mario and Majora's Mask Wii VC and it was really inexpensive so I can't complain too much, though. JordanKai posted:Bayo 2 EU demo Goddang inscrutable regional promotional differences. WHY
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Monkey Fracas posted:Goddang inscrutable regional promotional differences. WHY NA hasn't gotten this week's eShop update yet. There's still hope.
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It's on the Aussie eShop as well. Downloading it now  .
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Austrian mook posted:EU gets a demo and not NA? Usually it's the other way around, and has been since the SNES era.
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Judge Tesla posted:Usually it's the other way around, and has been since the SNES era. I don't think there were SNES demos back in the day
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Aaaaa the bayo demo confirms it has the magic of the first and more. Now for the longest wait
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ChaosArgate posted:Those are out of print and are like $40 now. I don't know how adverse you are to used products but Amazon has some for around $12 from reputable sellers, $17.99 from Gamestop.
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