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Zombywuf
Mar 29, 2008

What even is OpenStack? I keep seeing it and cloud at the same time, but other than that I genuinely can't find out what it is.

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bobbilljim
May 29, 2013

this christmas feels like the very first christmas to me
:shittydog::shittydog::shittydog:
REISUB is pretty cool too does that still work

Illusive Fuck Man
Jul 5, 2004
RIP John McCain feel better xoxo 💋 🙏
Taco Defender

Zombywuf posted:

What even is OpenStack? I keep seeing it and cloud at the same time, but other than that I genuinely can't find out what it is.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+openstack

openstack is actually good and i like it. it seems like a very well organized and supported project.

Zombywuf
Mar 29, 2008

Illusive gently caress Man posted:

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+openstack

openstack is actually good and i like it. it seems like a very well organized and supported project.

If I die because of this I want it known that I was killed by a buzzword overdose.

Illusive Fuck Man
Jul 5, 2004
RIP John McCain feel better xoxo 💋 🙏
Taco Defender

Zombywuf posted:

If I die because of this I want it known that I was killed by a buzzword overdose.

you install openstack services on a bunch of servers and it turns them into a lovely ec2

Zombywuf
Mar 29, 2008

Illusive gently caress Man posted:

you install openstack services on a bunch of servers and it turns them into a lovely ec2

ta

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
It's a clone of AWS, but the lawyers can't let you say "clone of AWS" so you get a lovely set of buzzwords instead.

Soricidus
Oct 21, 2010
freedom-hating statist shill

bobbilljim posted:

REISUB is pretty cool too does that still work
probably not, because it would be terrible if someone who will never use linux somehow found themselves using a linux and accidentally pressed alt+sysrq+b.

infernal machines
Oct 11, 2012

we monitor many frequencies. we listen always. came a voice, out of the babel of tongues, speaking to us. it played us a mighty dub.

Soricidus posted:

it would be terrible if someone who will never use linux somehow found themselves using a linux

boy howdy, let me tell you...

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug

bobbilljim posted:

REISUB is pretty cool too does that still work

/etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf posted:

# The magic SysRq key enables certain keyboard combinations to be
# interpreted by the kernel to help with debugging. The kernel will respond
# to these keys regardless of the current running applications.
#
# In general, the magic SysRq key is not needed for the average Ubuntu
# system, and having it enabled by default can lead to security issues on
# the console such as being able to dump memory or to kill arbitrary
# processes including the running screen lock.
#
# Here is the list of possible values:
# 0 - disable sysrq completely
# 1 - enable all functions of sysrq
# >1 - enable certain functions by adding up the following values:
# 2 - enable control of console logging level
# 4 - enable control of keyboard (SAK, unraw)
# 8 - enable debugging dumps of processes etc.
# 16 - enable sync command
# 32 - enable remount read-only
# 64 - enable signalling of processes (term, kill, oom-kill)
# 128 - allow reboot/poweroff
# 256 - allow nicing of all RT tasks
#
# For example, to enable both control of console logging level and
# debugging dumps of processes: kernel.sysrq = 10
#

default value is 176 = allow reboot/poweroff + enable remount read-only + enable sync command

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Lysidas posted:

default value is 176 = allow reboot/poweroff + enable remount read-only + enable sync command

oh hey excellent choice making 1 the 'enable everything' instead of -1

VAGENDA OF MANOCIDE
Aug 1, 2004

whoa, what just happened here?







College Slice
ugh bit flags

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

fritz posted:

oh hey excellent choice making 1 the 'enable everything' instead of -1

that's for backwards compatibility, the bit field was added later

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

the osx compiler is partly open source partly closed source and separately licensed with a loving click-through license agreement

it is very early-90s special

at least i didn't have to enter a license key or upload a "PAK"

so is installing clang++ too hard or are you just a moron

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

clang is very nice, and the open source version is both useful and usable and other platforms

apple's clang is proprietary. they have a tree of their own patches. if i want to compile things against apple's sdk i need apple's proprietary compiler and its dumbfuck installation procedure and its separate licensing

it's u the idiot who links code without thinking about the license

lol just lol

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

orphean posted:

except they aren't really doing this and all the DEC VT emulation, ECMA-48, etc is just being reimplemented because all the bug tested stable as poo poo kernel code is worthless and this needs to be in userspace because of reasons. all this effort to support the 0.5% of people who actually use console ttys (as opposed to terminal emulators, or ssh, or what have you) is obviously worthwhile

just lol if you think the kernel tty code is maintainable or bug tested as poo poo

Lysidas
Jul 26, 2002

John Diefenbaker is a madman who thinks he's John Diefenbaker.
Pillbug
this is a very exciting time to linux.

pseudopresence
Mar 3, 2005

I want to get online...
I need a computer!
So in conclusion, is systemd good or is it bad? I need a non-nuanced opinion that I can parrot ad nauseam on slashdot, a website that still exists in the year 2014.

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Fib posted:

So in conclusion, is systemd good or is it bad? I need a non-nuanced opinion that I can parrot ad nauseam on slashdot, a website that still exists in the year 2014.

all i know is lennart poettering was involved

so it's a vital public service that you poo poo all over it on slashdot as often as possible. good for karma too

Notorious b.s.d.
Jan 25, 2003

by Reene

Malcolm XML posted:

it's u the idiot who links code without thinking about the license

lol just lol

wow it's like the license in itself constitutes an issue in normal use

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

wow it's like the license in itself constitutes an issue in normal use

it appears that thousand or millions of developers actually manage to use to just fine, but i dunno

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

Notorious b.s.d. posted:

all i know is lennart poettering was involved

so it's a vital public service that you poo poo all over it on slashdot as often as possible. good for karma too

wait

slashdot still exists?

BobHoward
Feb 13, 2012

The only thing white people deserve is a bullet to their empty skull

pseudorandom name posted:

wait

slashdot still exists?

it not only still exists, it's never taken a shower or ventured outside the basement

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
I'm happy Slashdot exists, as it gathers all the people whose opinions we can safely ignore all together in one place.

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

Suspicious Dish posted:

I'm happy Slashdot exists, as it gathers all the people whose opinions we can safely ignore all together in one place.

what about hn

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

gnome 3 actually owns quite a lot

Squinty Applebottom
Jan 1, 2013

debian + gnome 3 is quite possibly the best desktop experience in TYOOL 2014

pram
Jun 10, 2001
its actually loving terrible

Kiwi Ghost Chips
Feb 19, 2011

Start using the best desktop environment now!
Choose KDE!

pram posted:

its actually loving terrible

Forums Terrorist
Dec 8, 2011

pram posted:

its actually loving terrible

it is better than windows

pram
Jun 10, 2001
damning with faint praise

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


praise enough to make me want to try it

but my steam library :( :( :(

pram
Jun 10, 2001
apple osx features quite a few steam games my friend

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Can you even buy osx on its own, I've never checked

Now that you say that though installing osx on my desktop sounds like an amusing project for the weekend, though only having 50gb free makes that iffy

theadder
Dec 30, 2011


no

ShadowHawk
Jun 25, 2000

CERTIFIED PRE OWNED TESLA OWNER

pram posted:

apple osx features quite a few steam games my friend
So does Ubuntu and Debian (aka SteamOS) :)

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

mostly indie stuff, though; less than a dozen "real" games

pram
Jun 10, 2001

ShadowHawk posted:

So does Ubuntu and Debian (aka SteamOS) :)

haha no

pram
Jun 10, 2001
steamos is, heh, vaporware

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Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe
http://repo.steampowered.com/download/SteamOSDVD.iso

A software you can download, inspect and install: vaporware.

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