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cochise
Sep 11, 2011


Sarah Paulson doing a Fiona Apple cover? Yes please.

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screenwritersblues
Sep 13, 2010
Two things:

1) Twisty the clown is the stuff that nightmares are made up.

2) Is anyone else getting a noir vibe from this or am I the only one?

DarklyDreaming
Apr 4, 2009

Fun scary

Illuen posted:

Land mine in WW2?

Probably, her exchange with the landlord implied a certain amount of residual hostility

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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I love that the half painted toenails made no sense but now that we get Bette and Dot's personalities it's perfect.

screech on the beach
Mar 9, 2004
Kathy Bates sounded like a mix of Dr. Evil and Depp's Willy Wonka.

cochise
Sep 11, 2011


Kathy Bates' accent was bad. It reminded me of the horrible attempts at Southern and Cajun accents that were in True Blood (except Lafayette... he nailed it).

Parasol Prophet
Aug 31, 2012

We Are Best Friends Now.
Welp, they got me back for the season. That was really good.

katium
Jun 26, 2006

Purrs like a kitten.
Holy poo poo, that was awesome and I am so excited for this season.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
I'm gonna have nightmares about that clown. He wearing someone else's scalp for a hat, isn't he?

Can't wait for the Fiona Apple musical number.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.

cochise posted:

Kathy Bates' accent was bad. It reminded me of the horrible attempts at Southern and Cajun accents that were in True Blood (except Lafayette... he nailed it).

Yeah it sounded pretty fake at first. She did pretty well last season.

The anachronisms are interesting. I wonder if Pepper is really the same as the one we saw in Asylum.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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If this is anything like Coven the reason for all this anachronistic music is that one of the freaks is a time traveler with an iPod.

:dance: c'mon Ryan Murphy, ruin what you've got going.

Lord Waffle Beard
Dec 7, 2013
This show is pandering to juggalos, only good part so far was dildo hands

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

If this is anything like Coven the reason for all this anachronistic music is that one of the freaks is a time traveler with an iPod.

:dance: c'mon Ryan Murphy, ruin what you've got going.

My money would be on Pepper given ... well you know.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Bates' accent aside, a great start. The clown fully makes up for all of Coven.

My only concern is that we're going to get another season where all of the characters are bad guys and no one is sympathetic so you don't have a reason to care when someone gets put in danger / dies.

Murderhouse had plenty of characters you wanted to cheer for.

Asylum had 2 or 3 people who weren't completely evil.

Coven was full of psychos and irredeemable sociopaths. Except Misty Day of course :allears:

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



Jesus loving Christ they started with the weird sex poo poo not even halfway through the first episode.

Also the clown is loving nightmare fuel

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Ok, I came in with some reservations because of Coven, but I liked this a lot. The audio mix was super off in that diner scene, but it seemed alright everywhere else. The camera work is great and it did a nice job of setting the tone as a period piece. I wonder how much of a pain in the rear end it is to film the scenes where Paulson actually has both heads in the shot at once.

Add me to the pile of people who have no fuckin' clue what accent Bates is going for, though. It's definitely not any kind of southern. It sounded like a really bad Scottish accent at some points, and a really bad Canadian in others. One of the people I watched it with thought maybe some kind of Scandinavian?

I just want to know what it is so I can figure out if it's a super lovely accent or a really good one that I've just never been exposed to.

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

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Grizzled Patriarch posted:


Add me to the pile of people who have no fuckin' clue what accent Bates is going for, though. It's definitely not any kind of southern. It sounded like a really bad Scottish accent at some points, and a really bad Canadian in others. One of the people I watched it with thought maybe some kind of Scandinavian?

I just want to know what it is so I can figure out if it's a super lovely accent or a really good one that I've just never been exposed to.

I honestly think it might be supposed to be Pennsylvania Dutch or something similar. If I hear her say "Poconos" I'll know. It sounds kinda similar to some I hear in the suburbs around Philadelphia. Very distinctive, but hers is a little too overdone so it vacillates between Irish and surfer dude.

"So now you're Mehewses leadin' the Isreelates?"


E:
I love what they seem to be doing with Lange this season. She's still tough as nails but she has a soft side that we haven't really seen since the last days of Sister Jude's story. There's some vulnerability that's great to see since she's spent 2.5 seasons as chainsmoking queen-bee alpha bitch. She's still on top but she has some serious heart behind it.

Also the interplay between Sarah Paulson's heads is fantastic. I love that they are telepathic with each other.

QuickbreathFinisher fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Oct 9, 2014

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

LoG posted:

Kathy Bates sounded like a mix of Dr. Evil

I think this is it.

Her accent was very distracting because I was trying to place it every time she spoke. Those long O's are very familiar and it's driving me crazy. Maybe it's Dr. Evil, maybe it's something else. It does sound like rural Canadian, but in my head there is a character from something else that speaks in the exact same way.

I'm sure it'll come to me.

Meanwhile that was a fantastic premiere. Of course Coven had great visuals too, we can't forget. It's just when they tried to hold a plot that everything fell apart.

Tenzarin
Jul 24, 2007
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Taco Defender
That nurse is gonna totally have a baby from the freakshow gangbang.

OmegaBR
Feb 14, 2012

Come to me .... and live forever.
I thought Bates was supposed to be Irish (and not just because of the drunk tank.)

Apparently we get to see what Twisty has behind his mask sooner rather than later, and it's so bad that crew members would leave between retakes.

Pudgygiant
Apr 8, 2004

Garnet and black? More like gold and blue or whatever the fuck colors these are
Kathy Bates has a SPOT THE gently caress ON Baltimore accent to the point where it gave me horrible family reunion flashbacks

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Name Game was a better musical number, done with this season

Pudgygiant fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Oct 9, 2014

Asiina
Apr 26, 2011

No going back
Grimey Drawer

Pudgygiant posted:

Kathy Bates has a SPOT THE gently caress ON Baltimore accent to the point where it gave me horrible family reunion flashbacks

Holy poo poo, that's it!!

It's the same voice John Travolta did in Hairspray (which is set in Baltimore).

No embedding

Thank god, now I can go to bed.

A. Beaverhausen
Nov 11, 2008

by R. Guyovich
When I saw that the little Indian lady had her own little knife in that scene I literally went 'daaaw' out loud. I don't immediately want anyone to die so far, so it's a lot better than coven at this point!

Advice
Feb 17, 2007

Je veux ton amour
Et je veux ton revanche
Je veux ton amour
I don't wanna be friends
I don't know if it's late, but that episode confused the gently caress out of me.

So Jessica Lange's character is a german war hero turned ringleader who got her legs blown off and, as a result, cannot fufill her dreams of big-time stardom and has settled for the center stage of her own freakshow. I assume the show is longer than we are shown, since the twins were supposed to be the main attraction, but they only lingered on each sideshow for a moment or two. But then I think I saw Lange watching from the audience, in no makeup? Is the show in her imagination? But then the mother and son apparently saw it so I guess not? And the candystriper from the hospital came to the address on the card and apparently got blown out on opium and got gangbanged? But then she says "I remember it...I loved it." and sits and watches it and doesn't leave horrified any more? Did I get all this?

Holy good goddamn is that Michael Chiklis I saw in those credits? I'm super psyched for that.

Coven was my first exposure to AHS and my friends absolutely loved it and I think they said it was the best season yet, but I hated it. I basically forced myself to finish it. I haven't had the chance to see Murderhouse or Asylum yet but I hear they're way better and this thread seems to agree. I'll give Freakshow a couple more episodes but if it doesn't grab me I'm just going to watch Seasons 1 and 2.

I think one of the things that bothered me a lot about last season and I already see creeping up here is I find myself screaming at characters inside my head to not do some insanely stupid action. It takes me out of fiction when characters do things I feel like normal people would never do, because it serves the plot. Already in this first episode I had a few cases:

-Milk Man not only not leaving immediately upon finding a dead body, but investigating upstairs with a blunt instrument, acknowledging that there's danger inside?
-Detective "arresting" the twins by slapping cuffs on them and then walking to the other side of the room and talking more, then aggressively confronting multiple people inside their tent instead of just leaving and getting backup. I don't think they can move the entire setup before you can be back with a dozen more cops.


I really want to like this show so we'll see.

Advice fucked around with this message at 09:26 on Oct 9, 2014

chapstickie
Apr 30, 2011
That was such a good episode that even though I had to watch it on the second playing because I was out, I find myself hanging around watching the third too.

The only downside I can see is that once again, I'm watching a show that I can't mention on Facebook because every show I mention, my uptight in-laws try watching and freak out. It's like Hannibal all over again except worse because no one I know is watching it due to coulrophobia so my excitement is going to be without an outlet. At least I have this thread!

jazz babies
Mar 7, 2007

kjetting posted:

Noone has managed to make a good piece of film about witches since 1922.

SOMEONE hasn't seen Hocus Pocus. :colbert:


Re: the show though....

GODDAMN.

1. I've been sort of okay with clowns. I am no longer sort of okay with clowns. Just no.

2. The opening credits are PHENOMENAL.

3. PEPPER'S BACK YOU GUYS!

jazz babies fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Oct 9, 2014

tatopom
Apr 9, 2009

Illuen posted:

Is the tall woman in red a trans woman?

I thought she was the Incredibly White Tall Woman

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Wow, the pathos I have for Jessica Lange's character is insane.

During the David Bowie scene, especially the pitiful way that Evan Peters looked down at her, you could tell that for all the "fame" she puts forth, she's just a sad old woman past her prime grasping at straws. And then the final scene/reveal just drove home how sad and broken she is. Really, really well done the way they paced out her character's introduction throughout this first episode.

And Twisty the Clown, god drat it. I think someone mentioned already, but I think he's so effective because he's not just a mindless killer. The scene in the bus where he's trying to do "clown"-y things, but nobody's laughing at he gets frustrated and starts throwing poo poo and kicking the cages, that was TERRIFYING, because there's so much uncertainty in his actions, you can almost see the moment he snaps.

gently caress, this season started out right.

i am bones
May 18, 2010

We are the Crystal Gems!
IN GLORIOUS TECHNICOLOR!

*slap*

Oh, and Dot singing Criminal? :allears:

i am bones fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Oct 9, 2014

Captain Mog
Jun 17, 2011

COOL CORN posted:

Wow, the pathos I have for Jessica Lange's character is insane.

During the David Bowie scene, especially the pitiful way that Evan Peters looked down at her, you could tell that for all the "fame" she puts forth, she's just a sad old woman past her prime grasping at straws. And then the final scene/reveal just drove home how sad and broken she is. Really, really well done the way they paced out her character's introduction throughout this first episode.

And Twisty the Clown, god drat it. I think someone mentioned already, but I think he's so effective because he's not just a mindless killer. The scene in the bus where he's trying to do "clown"-y things, but nobody's laughing at he gets frustrated and starts throwing poo poo and kicking the cages, that was TERRIFYING, because there's so much uncertainty in his actions, you can almost see the moment he snaps.

gently caress, this season started out right.

I felt so bad for her when that one lady with the weirdo son made fun of her singing. She just looked so utterly heartbroken. It was like telling a small child that she couldn't hold a tune.

Unizee
Dec 7, 2010
Oh, Jessica Lange! You've swiped the Emmy from the claws of every other actress out there with the premier episode! The scene at the end with her and Kathy Bates broke my heart. Genuine affection between those two characters.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
I was worried during the singing because I couldn't tell if it was supposed to be embarrassingly bad or not, considering the whole Stevie Nicks disaster last season. I'm glad they made it a plot point.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
The level of shade thrown between Lange and Conroy keeps growing and growing. Next season they're just going to try to tear each other's throat out every time they meet.

Asema
Oct 2, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

cochise posted:

Kathy Bates' accent was bad. It reminded me of the horrible attempts at Southern and Cajun accents that were in True Blood (except Lafayette... he nailed it).

Just because you've never heard of a Dundalk accent doesn't make it a horrible southern/cajun accent. Bates did a pretty good imitation of it.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

So I haven't seen it mentioned but near the end of Bowie song it cuts to a character in face paint in the tent where Lange played the opium orgy video. Who was it?

MACAW.AVI
Dec 1, 2013
I thought that that was Lange again.

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest

haveblue posted:

The level of shade thrown between Lange and Conroy keeps growing and growing. Next season they're just going to try to tear each other's throat out every time they meet.

I thought this was the last season? I also can't really visually parse the clown's mask. Is it just the fake smile over his mouth? I think that's his nose/cheeks, right? I don't understand the mask he is wearing.

Firstborn fucked around with this message at 16:25 on Oct 9, 2014

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

Firstborn posted:

I thought this was the last season? I also can't really visually parse the clown's mask. Is it just the fake smile over his mouth? I think that's his nose/cheeks, right? I don't understand the mask he is wearing.

His eyes, nose, and forehead are his own, the grin is a mask and the scalp and hair look like they used to belong to someone else.

Cotato
Mar 25, 2002

tatopom posted:

I thought she was the Incredibly White Tall Woman

Why would a tall woman be in a freak show?

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Teek
Aug 7, 2006

Whatever.

Firstborn posted:

I thought this was the last season?

Murphy already has his idea for next season apparently. He said in an EW.com interview that there will already start to be hints for next season's theme in this season's first few episodes.

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