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ayn rand hand job posted:WCW: Well give the fans the outcome they want and then immediately reverse it Might as well just get to this fix, since it's heading there anyways.
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BillyMays posted:Reading the Death of WCW and I got to the part about the Beach Blast movie with Sting, Davey Boy, Vader, and Sid. I thought I've seen all of these videos but I'm glad I was wrong. Pyro+licensing is loving expensive.
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BigRed0427 posted:Is there anything different about the 10th anniversary edition that wasn't in the old one? The anniversary edition has ~210 more pages, going off what amazon has for info on each kindle version.
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BigRed0427 posted:Is there anything different about the 10th anniversary edition that wasn't in the old one? They changed the dedication from "Paul and Steph" to "Bob and Dixie". They also spend time teeing off on TNA (and a bit on WWE) for not learning from the mistakes of WCW.
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From what I've seen in the preview, the writing is somewhat cleaned up. As far as content is concerned, it includes more direct quotes and sources. There's also a new prologue and an epilogue of all the WCW stupidity that was duplicated in TNA.
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ayn rand hand job posted:They changed the dedication from "Paul and Steph" to "Bob and Dixie". They also credited lessons learned, like WWE making approximately All The Money on Rey Mysterio masks, when WCW had Mysterio unmask to make him marketable.
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ayn rand hand job posted:WCW: Well give the fans the outcome they want on the PPV and then immediately reverse it the next night on Nitro. To be fair, no one gave two shits about DDP at that point in his career. In truth it wasn't until he turned down the NWO that he was anywhere near being over, and then it just snowballed from there.
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Skinty McEdger posted:To be fair, no one gave two shits about DDP at that point in his career. In truth it wasn't until he turned down the NWO that he was anywhere near being over, and then it just snowballed from there. So they're in the Superdome for Nitro. Bischoff tells DDP he's going to reject the NWO's offer and he's got a 12 minute segment to do it in. He's not sure how he's going to have a match and then reject the NWO in one segment that short. As the night goes on, Bischoff rebooks the show and his segment slowly gets shrunk and shrunk. Eventually someone tells him "okay, you're next, you've got 3 minutes!" and he's freaking out because how in the hell is he going to do that whole thing so fast. He asks Nash what to do, and Nash says not to worry about it. So he gets out there, hits Mark Starr with the Diamond Cutter in 15 seconds, Hall and Nash immediately come out and offer him the shirt, then he cutters Hall, sends Nash over the top rope, does two really fast poses, and bails through the crowd, and they're done in 3 minutes. Luigi Thirty fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Oct 7, 2014 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:So they're in the Superdome for Nitro. Bischoff tells DDP he's going to reject the NWO's offer and he's got a 12 minute segment to do it in. He's not sure how he's going to have a match and then reject the NWO in one segment that short. As the night goes on, Bischoff rebooks the show and his segment slowly gets shrunk and shrunk. Eventually someone tells him "okay, you're next, you've got 3 minutes!" and he's freaking out because how in the hell is he going to do that whole thing so fast. He asks Nash what to do, and Nash says not to worry about it. The best DDP story has to be when he found Stone Cold unconscious next to an empty bottle of vodka and a pile of half eaten cookies, and used the cookies to lure Austin to bed.
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Volcano Style posted:The best DDP story has to be when he found Stone Cold unconscious next to an empty bottle of vodka and a pile of half eaten cookies, and used the cookies to lure Austin to bed.
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Halloween Jack posted:From what I've seen in the preview, the writing is somewhat cleaned up. As far as content is concerned, it includes more direct quotes and sources. There's also a new prologue and an epilogue of all the WCW stupidity that was duplicated in TNA. There's a lot more info on how bad it got in 2000 and 2001, especially in 2000. Probably a good 20-30 pages extra content. The chapters about how WWE hosed up the invasion and TNA are well worth it in my opinion.
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frankenfreak posted:What's it with DDP and cookies? Cookies are delicious.
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TONIGHT: STARRCADE 97 THE AFTERMATH! It's the two Nitros that followed up the biggest match of all time!!! Not only that, but I believe the second one is building up the first ever THUNDER (don't worry, we'll get to that.) What will happen? Well, lots of things! I'll spoil one thing, tonight we get HOGAN VS STING IN A RETURN MATCH FROM STARRCADE 97!!!! Yeah! 8 PM! 7:30 for Cowboy Who! http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling
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Schiavone: Let's go to the replay from last week. Scott Hall: ...I'll have a big surprise for you next week. Schiavone: And "next week" is this week, fans.
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Volcano Style posted:This is then followed by him watching the show on replay in his hotel room getting progressively drunker on scotch waiting for commentary to show a replay and talk about it and they never do, and ends up running into Nash and Hall in a club nearly blackout drunk and furious. I loved that Nitro got a rerun later at night. They do this for WWE stuff, but only if you get the Universal HD channel (which I do) - but that's on Saturday night.
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Red posted:I loved that Nitro got a rerun later at night. Not anymore 
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I found it amusing when I put on a Nitro and they said 'folks, we have the FOOTAGE of THIS AMAZING THING that happened on last night's PPV, it is ON ITS WAY and we will get it to you as soon as we can, so STAY TUNED!' And now I just sit here and think 'haha, like they really don't have the footage on hand... but, then again, it IS WCW...'
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Look at the adjective. Kevin Nash dropped by Nitro tonight. It's clear watching his whole speech that "Look at the adjective, play." was a mistake by Nash and he didn't pause in the right place. It's supposed to be; "So this is where the big boys play huh? Look at adjective (Pause) Play? I don't think so." But even then, adjective is still wrong. He also bizarrely drops in a reference to Mein Kampf. In hindsight, it would've made more sense for Sting to join the NWO...well ok it wouldn't have made 'sense'. But a big part of his promo is talking up how old everyone is in the WCW roster. I guess it serves as a precursor to the New Blood stuff, though of course that's ignoring the ages of Hall and Nash. Also in this episode? The utterly loving bizarre Shark/Big Bubba feud in which Big Bubba cut the hair off Shark a couple of weeks before and promises to do it again while dressed as a member of the Village people. And then Shark admitting that HE IS NO LONGER A FISH BUT IS NOW A MAN.
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Adjective is right, I think. The promo's pretty clearly meant to be "I'm big, but I'm not here to play,' or something to that effect, but he hosed it up.
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MassRafTer posted:God bless the judge who kept the footage of Sting/Hogan out of the nWo's hands. Bless JJ Dillon as well for showing it to us this Thursday on Thunder. 8:05 Eastern on the Superstation. It really amuses me to no end that WCW managed to botch the Sting angle so badly, and kept compounding it week after week. I think by the end of the feud, Hogan walked away with the only clean victory.
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I'm not sure, but Sting is actually the most successful wrestler against Hogan, ever. He's beaten him in most of their singles matches and all of their PPV matches.
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Ah GREAT AMERICAN BASH 96. You can tell it's the 90s because Sting, the face, cuts a promo on how gay Regal probably is. Talking about breeding boys in England. Sadly, they're also running with DDP's dubbed music, instead of his original ripoff tune.
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Halloween Jack posted:I'm not sure, but Sting is actually the most successful wrestler against Hogan, ever. He's beaten him in most of their singles matches and all of their PPV matches. Sting had 3 PPV victories over Hogan, but none of them were clean. Starrcade '97 had a wrestler restart the match for reasons after Hogan pinned Sting clean, Superbrawl '98 ended after Randy Savage turned on Hogan and popped him in the face, and Fall Brawl '99 was the antithesis of clean. The rest of their televised matches in WCW ended in draws.
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Sting never lost to Hogan because he never lost the focus of the scorpion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPGdoB7U8fI and when he did, this happened: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2R0v1I_-ys Neither was good for Hulk.
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Stealing this from the YouTube thread, a 20 minute interview with Buff the Stuff where he rants about WCW, talks about his mom, and how the gigolo business is going http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDLwbCRlXM8
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DrVenkman posted:Also in this episode? The utterly loving bizarre Shark/Big Bubba feud in which Big Bubba cut the hair off Shark a couple of weeks before and promises to do it again while dressed as a member of the Village people. And then Shark admitting that HE IS NO LONGER A FISH BUT IS NOW A MAN. He's not just a man. He's John Tenta.
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DrVenkman posted:Ah GREAT AMERICAN BASH 96. You can tell it's the 90s because Sting, the face, cuts a promo on how gay Regal probably is. Talking about breeding boys in England. Watching this at the moment and Sting literally said he'd beat Regal straight.
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Chinston Wurchill posted:Watching this at the moment and Sting literally said he'd beat Regal straight. Well considering Godfather later called Regal (and England) "nothing but a bunch of fags", I guess Sting failed
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TONIGHT AT 8:05 PM ON SUPERSTATION PSP-TV THE FIRST EVER THUNDER!!!!!!! The nWo tried to make the Clinton activist Supreme Court lock away the footage from Starrcade and Nitro, but we'll see it tonight! We'll know the truth about the fast count and whatever happened after Nitro the next night! Also: Chris Jericho has SNAPPED will his losing streak continue against Ric Flair? DDP and Kevin Nash collide in the main event! Chris Adams! Louie Spicolli! Ultimo Dragon vs Juventud Guererra for the cruiserweight title! And so much more! http://www.psp-tv.com/r/BadMoviesWorseWrestling THUNDER!
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Wow I forgot how bad Zbysko was on commentary. "Here comes the endomorphic cyborg enforcement unit, Arn Anderson."
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I am in awe of how bad the first Thunder was. I haven't watched it in full since it aired and back then I was really worried about what might happen to the belt so I didn't remember it being a boring show, but wow, what a boring show.
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I remembered the first episode of Thunder as the one with the Rey Mysterio Jr vs Juvi match but I guess that's the second episode.
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It took a while for Thunder to reach such heights as DDP vs The Machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRDi2lK6b-s
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:It took a while for Thunder to reach such heights as DDP vs The Machine. Was that a gimmick from 8mm? Who the gently caress thought that was a good idea? "Let's make him that dude from that movie where he raped and killed drugged up runaways off Sunset Boulevard".
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Memento posted:Was that a gimmick from 8mm? Who the gently caress thought that was a good idea? Yes it was and I don't know who.
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Yes, The Machine was an atomically lovely idea. Being humiliated in his one appearance and never seen again was the best possible outcome.
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Memento posted:Who the gently caress thought that was a good idea? Probably Kevin Sullivan.
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