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Oh hey, congrats on the black belt father dog, I had you mentally rolodexed as a brown belt.
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Your priorities in class - 1) Don't hurt your partner 2) Don't hurt yourself 3) Learn Your priorities in a tournament - 1) Don't hurt yourself 2) Win 3) Don't hurt your opponent, if you can help it. Keep both of those lists very firmly in mind.
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Kekekela posted:Oh hey, congrats on the black belt father dog, I had you mentally rolodexed as a brown belt. Thanks. I got it December of last year, if you search my posts in this thread I think I had a picture or two.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:31
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fatherdog posted:sweep your opponent onto the concrete, onto the timekeeper's table, or into the ref. It's a tournament. You don't know this person and you have no reason to suspect they won't do the same to you. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45CtWFgzCqo&t=925s
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Oct 10, 2014 19:48
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTu55hZGwx8&t=85s
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Oct 10, 2014 19:54
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Winning an ameteur competition for my hobby is always a higher priority than preventing injury of other people who do my hobby.
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Gadamer posted:Winning an ameteur competition for my hobby is always a higher priority than preventing injury of other people who do my hobby. Ahahaha what the gently caress is this.
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Gadamer posted:Winning an ameteur competition for my hobby is always a higher priority than preventing injury of other people who do my hobby. Go play badminton, dude.
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Oct 10, 2014 20:26
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I admit IBJJF tournament rules are a byzantine mystery to me But if you swept a guy onto concrete would you really not get penalized or DQ'd for it? The ref would just reset you?
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Oct 10, 2014 20:33
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Gadamer posted:Winning an ameteur competition for my hobby is always a higher priority than preventing injury of other people who do my hobby. Lol its a fight dude
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He expended too much energy and got tired
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Gadamer posted:Winning an ameteur competition for my hobby is always a higher priority than preventing injury of other people who do my hobby. When the goal of the competition is to "kill" your opponent, yes.
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Oct 10, 2014 20:36
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Mr. Pool posted:I admit IBJJF tournament rules are a byzantine mystery to me The ref has already hosed up by not resetting you by that point (or the tournament sucks by not having enough mat space), but no, it would not be a penalty unless it was deemed you did something maliciously. Like, if you pick a guy up in a fireman's carry, walk over to the scorer's table, and dump your opponent on it, that's not good, and it's why there's usually a catch-all "unsportsmanlike conduct" rule for competitions.
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Oct 10, 2014 20:36
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Mechafunkzilla posted:Like, if you pick a guy up in a fireman's carry, walk over to the scorer's table, and dump your opponent on it, that's not good. I disagree vehemently, that would be cool as poo poo.
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Oct 10, 2014 20:37
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Don't forget about the intimidation factor too. Some people make sure (in tournaments) to finish every takedown and land in top position, whether or not they'll stay in bounds or get points for it, because it sends a nonverbal message to the opponent like "I will stop at nothing to win this." Not to mention that being taken down out of bounds can really spike an person's adrenaline and mess with their rhythm/composure after the reset. I'm in favor of maintaining control, I think that's where I draw the line. Don't exhaust yourself hulking out and trying to throw your opponent into the stands, but also don't give up on a good controlled attack just because you're not going to get the points for it.
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Oct 10, 2014 20:42
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Mechafunkzilla posted:The ref has already hosed up by not resetting you by that point (or the tournament sucks by not having enough mat space), but no, it would not be a penalty unless it was deemed you did something maliciously. Like, if you pick a guy up in a fireman's carry, walk over to the scorer's table, and dump your opponent on it, that's not good, and it's why there's usually a catch-all "unsportsmanlike conduct" rule for competitions. Cool In that case Sweep'em
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Oct 10, 2014 20:47
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What combat sport are you training in where competition is some light and breezy game of paddy cake?
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origami posted:What combat sport are you training in where competition is some light and breezy game of paddy cake? Based on that karate tournament from espn that I watched the other night, probably that
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Oct 10, 2014 20:50
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Tae Kwon Do.
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Those are not hug based so I'm curious if folks are training in bjj or sambo or whatever and don't understand that it's okay to be a bit mean when competing.
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Oct 10, 2014 21:19
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DGAF, if you intentionally throw yer opponent into a table or concrete, yer a thug.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:41
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Randy Orton would be a menace in BJJ comps. How many points is an RKO through the timekeepers table? Has to be at least worth 6 points if you end up rolling onto their back.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:44
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ICHIBAHN posted:DGAF, if you intentionally throw yer opponent into a table or concrete, yer a thug. My opponent is trying to do their best to choke or armlock me, and quite probably doing their best to throw me onto concrete or into a table themselves. If you have the opportunity for a sweep, go for that sweep. If the opponent lands on the concrete, it's the fault of them and the referee, whose job it is to dictate whether or not the contestants need to be positionally reset. Also, when you've been training for a month, and multiple people who have been training for years/decades disagree with you, and the only person who agrees with you has also only been training a month, you might consider that your considered moral position comes from a position of ignorance and should probably be soft-peddled till you've actually found yourself in a remotely analogous situation.
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quote:Those are not hug based so I'm curious if folks are training in bjj or sambo or whatever and don't understand that it's okay to be a bit mean when competing.
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fatherdog posted:My opponent is trying to do their best to choke or armlock me, and quite probably doing their best to throw me onto concrete or into a table themselves. If you have the opportunity for a sweep, go for that sweep. If the opponent lands on the concrete, it's the fault of them and the referee, whose job it is to dictate whether or not the contestants need to be positionally reset. Lots of words that don't mean anything. If you're intentionally hurting someone, you're a thug. These are my morals, they're different to yours but they're not going to change no matter what color belt i wear.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:52
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ICHIBAHN posted:Lots of words that don't mean anything. If you're intentionally hurting someone, you're a thug. I don't think you understand the basic premise of combat sports.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:54
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ICHIBAHN posted:Lots of words that don't mean anything. If you're intentionally hurting someone, you're a thug. I don't even, like, what
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ICHIBAHN posted:Lots of words that don't mean anything. You are pretty bad at arguing. quote:If you're intentionally hurting someone, you're a thug. MagicCube posted:I don't think you understand the basic premise of combat sports.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:56
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have you ever competed in literally any grappling or combat sport? even high school wrestling you learned that right quick
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Oct 10, 2014 22:57
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I thought you sociopaths were joking but apparently not lmao
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Oct 10, 2014 22:57
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If my opponent is worrying about armbarring me and I'm worrying about not sweeping him off the mat I'm going to get my loving arm broken. That is why you have referees. Competition is intense and trying to protect your opponent will get YOU hurt.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:58
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Nope. Never done combat sports. No intention to compete nor hurt anyone. You all sound hysterical.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Nope. Never done combat sports. No intention to compete nor hurt anyone. You all sound hysterical. Opal posted:I thought you sociopaths were joking but apparently not lmao Kekekela posted:I'm going full on Palheres in some high school gymnasiums for that NAGA gold. please train more
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fatherdog posted:You are pretty bad at arguing. Nothing to argue here. No intention to win any argument. My POV is as stated. Deal or chill.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Nope. Never done combat sports. No intention to compete nor hurt anyone. You all sound hysterical. Yeah, actually you have done combat sports because you've started doing BJJ. BJJ is a combat sport. You are literally being taught extremely precise ways to break people's arms and choke them unconscious. Maybe you need to rethink your involvement in this particular combat sport if you feel morally against the basic premise of the sport.
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Oct 10, 2014 23:02
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Are you going to refrain from heel hooks and toe holds just because they're more likely to injure your opponent?
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lmao
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Oct 10, 2014 23:06
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Like do you understand that in a competition people aren't going to go like they do in the gym. My first ever competition I got armbarred and tapped instantly and my elbow was sore for days. This sport is violence.
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Oct 10, 2014 23:07
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i think the idea of hug based grappling attracted the wrong type of crowd
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ICHIBAHN posted:Nothing to argue here. No intention to win any argument. My POV is as stated. Deal or chill. "I wasn't intending to argue. I was intending to call everyone in the thread who expressed a certain POV thugs, and then refuse to listen to any reasons my position may be unreasonable. Deal or chill." Consider in the future, if you have ICHIBAHN posted:Never done combat sports. No intention to compete nor hurt anyone. that no one needs to hear your opinions about the appropriate way to compete.
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Knee on belly: a morally unjustifiable position
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