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Shadow Ninja 64 posted:Also, I think for Ganondorf there might be an Intensity barrier (either 4.0 or 5.0). It's 5.0, I believe. That's the Intensity I played on and Ganondorf challenged me afterwards.
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KennyMan666 posted:Master Core You can dodge the attack where the humanoid headbutts the stage and puts delayed explosives around the level by just hanging off the edge of the level.
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Cool, updated that post with the info.
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Oct 10, 2014 17:41
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Do I not understand something about how to keep items turned off? I have them set to all off yet every other game with a friend (online) they turn back on
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Oct 10, 2014 18:10
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Loser picks rules. Stop winning.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:11
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I think for Ganondorf the main idea is to let the enemy come to YOU. Slowly approach them and force them to come at you instead of you coming at them. You're super strong and adamant, unremovable rear end in a top hat that tilts into people and loving murders them on the approach. I remember smashing the poo poo out of a ZSS that kept trying to get close for a finisher and I ended up upsmashing her at 80% and insta-killing her. Palutena isn't garbage, I think people just play her wrong. Her abilities easily launch enemies away and she has great zoning potential with her tilts. Her side tilt lasts like three seconds in a persistent AoE, it's really good at knocking approaching opponents away. All her skills excel at avoiding enemy contact. Teleport to keep distance/avoid big attacks, reflect to wreck projectile spammers, auto target is a very good spammable projectile for wracking up damage on short range characters, counter is good against big attack slow characters like Bowser, Ganondorf, Ike, etc. Her upsmash and uair have great range and priority, respectively, and at high percentages her down and forward smashes absolutely wreck. Even if you miss with Fsmash or downsmash the tips shove enemies away, so you can also avoid counter attacks if you didn't quite land your smashes. I really think she's an absolutely underrated character. Also, Kirby. Everyone underestimates the little bastard. He probably has one of the best aerial games ever, he is super super good at gimping people that are attempting to recover and has many tools to recover himself. He can easily approach from the air to wreck most grounded characters that would otherwise outrange him, and his ground game is absolutely brutal to short ranged characters. He struggles greatly against zoning/projectile characters like Samus though because he just doesn't have any range or tools to deal with them beyond always staying close and never relenting his position. His down air has probably the highest priority in the game, very few up specials can break through it, and you can always finish them with a head stomp. God I love the head stomp finish. How Rude fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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Oct 10, 2014 18:21
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woops, doublepost
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Oct 10, 2014 18:25
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Listen to that guy Kirby owns. Not to mention that Kriby's five jumps means that he has a real easy time with knocking down people once they get off the stage.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:29
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Also, Shulk!Kirby gets all of the perks from Shulk's Monado Arts neutral special, too. Five jumps + Monado Jump = insane recovery.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:30
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Dr Pepper posted:Listen to that guy Kirby owns. Seriously, that's five opportunities to use that sick rear end down air and totally destroy an opponents hopes and dreams of recovering. Offstage as much as possible as Kirby and you won't be disappointed. Hell, Kirby's five jumps make his recovery unpredictable too, he's really hard to punish after being launched.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:34
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Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? I tried Wii fit trainer because of most of her tilts knocking guys out in one hit and being multidirectional, but she just wasn't fast enough.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:44
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greatn posted:Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? DK crushes those, he one-shots everybody and can kill groups with his spammable down special.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:45
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greatn posted:Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? Zero Suit Samus -- stand in the center of the small and high platform in the middle of the battlefield stage and just do Up-Tilts forever. Effortlessly get 350+ kills.
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Oct 10, 2014 18:47
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greatn posted:Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? Jump on the right platform, and spam Utilt on Zelda. It one hit kos everything and comes out insanely quickly in Smash 4, and the miis mostly approach from the left or above, which are where her biggest hitboxes are on her Utilt.
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Oct 10, 2014 19:23
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greatn posted:Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? Little Mac. His dash attack one shots everybody so you can literally just run back and forth and press A to send dudes flying for days.
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How Rude posted:Palutena isn't garbage, I think people just play her wrong. Her abilities easily launch enemies away and she has great zoning potential with her tilts. Her side tilt lasts like three seconds in a persistent AoE, it's really good at knocking approaching opponents away. All her skills excel at avoiding enemy contact. Teleport to keep distance/avoid big attacks, reflect to wreck projectile spammers, auto target is a very good spammable projectile for wracking up damage on short range characters, counter is good against big attack slow characters like Bowser, Ganondorf, Ike, etc. Her upsmash and uair have great range and priority, respectively, and at high percentages her down and forward smashes absolutely wreck. Even if you miss with Fsmash or downsmash the tips shove enemies away, so you can also avoid counter attacks if you didn't quite land your smashes. I really think she's an absolutely underrated character. Palutena kind of has that thing where her potential hasn't been fully explored, but right now, there are certainly better zoners out there. If custom moves get banned, Palutena might be low tier because her default moveset is not really anything special. Then again, just about every playable character in this game is close to solid, and that includes Ganondorf.
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There's little chance that custom moves are going to get banned in tournaments.
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greatn posted:Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? I used Jigglypuff for both of these. Fair is almost always a kill unless you're doing it from the far side; then it's up to the AI if they feel like recovering or not. Getting 200 kills was a bit of a trial, though, as the Character spawns often coincided with item appearances and that made it annoying/difficult -- especially when they grab the Smart Bomb. It does help that if you need to sorta regroup so you're not surrounded you can just fly off the side, wait a bit, grab the ledge, then wake-up attack into them for free kills. Once you get higher up, though, sometimes they'll give you room so they're out of range. Ten-minute Melee I used a lot of pound. Fair can take a while to kill if you're not hitting them from the near side of the stage but Pound sends them flying upwards and kills pretty quickly.
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It's probably a good idea to go for the items. The Pow Block clears the screen pretty easily, and the Ray gun gives you a nice bit of distance kills. Even the Smart Bomb is best grabbed to at the very least keep it away from the Miis
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Dr Pepper posted:There's little chance that custom moves are going to get banned in tournaments. Yes, I know (and in fact, I want custom moves to be a part of tournaments). I'm just saying "if". Other than that, Palutena's kind of tall and on the light side of midweights, and I have to say that I find her standard moves to be a little on the slow side and not that strong. But as I said, she does have the fact that we don't know her true potential going for her, and that just about everyone are rather solid in this game. Even if she hypothetically ends up as one of the worst characters, she'll be fine.
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Dr Pepper posted:There's little chance that custom moves are going to get banned in tournaments. Will there be a quick way for people to load up their customized characters or will each player have to spend time creating a character before the match?
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Oct 10, 2014 21:11
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hot sauce posted:Will there be a quick way for people to load up their customized characters or will each player have to spend time creating a character before the match? Not to mention you'd have to unlock all the moves and equipment on all the consoles.
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Oct 10, 2014 21:13
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hot sauce posted:Will there be a quick way for people to load up their customized characters or will each player have to spend time creating a character before the match? Amiibos required for all smash tourneys
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Nahxela posted:Everybody knows  I never played as Dedede before, but everytime I use him in the minigames I just loving obliterate everything.The real trick is the Gordos, they know all the ways on how to kill a sandbag. quote:"This is like a free dessert after a luxurious meal that was prepared free of charge. In a restaurant with this type of service, I don’t think there’s anybody who would say, “Change this to a meat dish!!” I mean, not that I like EVERY character I mean I'm really drat confused about Lucinarth and Dark Pit being there when I don't see a lot of difference...maybe yet, I'd have to play more as them eventually, but I kinda had fun as Robin and I'm really glad Dr. Mario is back cuz I kind of rock poo poo as him! This reminds me of how the creators of Pokémon read out fan mail in their office, specifically anything "suggesting" game changes or how the games could be better, and then openly mock the gently caress out of them. God Nintendo has just really been knocking poo poo out of the park this year, if not on their games then at the very least on DLC partnerships like Bayonetta 2 and Monster Hunter 4 
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FinalGamer posted:
God I love Sakurai, gently caress all the whiny babies. Game's polished as gently caress and I love it.
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Also, if you guys are trying Classic with customized fighters, any Fighting Team match will be hell: I was using a customized Luigi on Intensity 9.0 Classic and the Fighting Mii Team must have gotten some of my high-defense equipment on because they just wouldn't die. They kept coming back and ganged up on me like the sandbag I was and even if I killed one, another would soon come to take his/her place. I'd say they were the most difficult battle overall of Custom 9.0 Classic: Even Master Core was easy in comparison. I actually had Cruel Smash flashbacks when I tried it out the first time, though they weren't as powerful as that. (And the battles up until Master Core in general were harder with custom characters on than off.)
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Gammatron 64 posted:Not to mention you'd have to unlock all the moves and equipment on all the consoles. That's probably the biggest issue, since Nintendo doesn't have an easy save-all file like you can with SF4 or something. That being said, there was a 3DS tournament that did use custom moves so the issue is as everyone says, it's a time thing.
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Cruel Smash can gently caress right off. Even my best game with Ike only nets me three kills. I'm sure I'll make it to four eventually, but holy cow I never want to play it ever again after that. Ike, incidentally, owns.
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Yoshifan823 posted:Cruel Smash can gently caress right off. Even my best game with Ike only nets me three kills. I'm sure I'll make it to four eventually, but holy cow I never want to play it ever again after that. I used the Kirby trick of jumping off, sucking them up and spitting them out under the stage and then floating and up + b-ing my way back up. Cruel as they are they seem too dumb to recover. Got five kills my second try.
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hot sauce posted:Will there be a quick way for people to load up their customized characters or will each player have to spend time creating a character before the match? If your custom character is premade on the 3DS it takes literally one extra button press to select it. If it's not then it's still really fast. For the WiiU version it's been established that you cantransfer over your custom characters from the 3DS version. S
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hot sauce posted:Will there be a quick way for people to load up their customized characters Having their own 3DSes With their own game carts or SD carts where the characters already exist before the tournament. Or are people expecing Smash Bros 3DS tournaments to consist of a bunch of 3DSes that everyone participating must use and you can't bring your own game cart or SD card? And the game's just been out for a short time, give it another month and everyone will have all the custom moves unlocked.
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shadow strike is the most amazing teleport ever. I especially like doing really tiny ones when someone is coming in for a dash attack. They just swing at air and take a webbed foot to the back of the head. Also fun to use when someone with a counter is coming down from midair. They wait for you to get close to spring their counter but oh poo poo should've been watching my shadow bitch! Greninja is cool.
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Like, I'm not gonna lie, if they released Protoman as a clone of Mega Man as DLC, I would buy it. You could also Frankenstein together a Tails by using Sonic as a base, Duck Hunt's Up+B and maybe like Mega Man's Hyper Bomb for his neutral B. A lot of characters seem to have moves that are similar to others, especially the Miis. Like, I'm not saying they're going to do it, but if Nintendo was like "okay, $5 each for Protoman, Tails, Waluigi, Roy, Lucas, etc." I would be like "Okay I'm down for that. More dudes for me." KennyMan666 posted:Like, y'know Yeah people can bring their own 3DS and unlock 'em themselves but it would be kind of problematic once people switch to Wii U. GET IN THE ROBOT fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 10, 2014 |
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KennyMan666 posted:Like, y'know I'm pretty sure Tournaments sure as poo poo won't be run on 3DSes.
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Sire Oblivion posted:I'm pretty sure Tournaments sure as poo poo won't be run on 3DSes.
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You just have people set up their poo poo beforehand, it isn't that hard. I think its likely alternate moves will be allowed but not custom equipment.
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greatn posted:Who would you recommend for 200 kills on endless and 110 on ten minute melee? Choose Ike, play like Brawl just came out. Get up on the left or right platform, spam Aether non-stop. Nothing else. Stop for a moment if you see a bomb float by overhead.
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Gammatron 64 posted:Yeah people can bring their own 3DS and unlock 'em themselves but it would be kind of problematic once people switch to Wii U. You'll probably be able to link to a local WiiU and move your fighter over so I'm not seeing the issue here.
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KennyMan666 posted:Tournaments in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS won't be run on 3DSes? Why would someone run a tournament on the 3DS when it's easier, better looking, and generally better to run them on the Wii U version? Unless the Wii U exclusive stages are all terrible or something.
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If they allow customs, would the players have to show what equipment and moves they're using? Seems like part of a fighting game is knowing the abilities of the other player's character.
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