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How on earth is it easier to run a tournament for the WiiU version, where the person running it will have to aquire several TVs, WiiUs, copies of the game, complete with save files that have everything unlocked; then the 3DS version, in which the tournament organizer just needs to set up a building and everyone in it can bring their own 3DS's
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Oct 10, 2014 22:20
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KennyMan666 posted:Tournaments in Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS won't be run on 3DSes? A tournament in the version of the game where nobody can watch except the players sure sounds like fun. I can't wait for the hype as gently caress Evo finals where I get to stare at the back of some nerds' heads for twenty minutes.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:21
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Do you people seriously not expect there to be tournaments happening for both versions or something?
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Oct 10, 2014 22:23
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Dr Pepper posted:How on earth is it easier to run a tournament for the WiiU version, where the person running it will have to aquire several TVs, WiiUs, copies of the game, complete with save files that have everything unlocked; then the 3DS version, in which the tournament organizer just needs to set up a building and everyone in it can bring their own 3DS's I don't know, how have they managed to run Melee tournaments all these years?
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Oct 10, 2014 22:23
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Dr Pepper posted:How on earth is it easier to run a tournament for the WiiU version, where the person running it will have to aquire several TVs, WiiUs, copies of the game, complete with save files that have everything unlocked; then the 3DS version, in which the tournament organizer just needs to set up a building and everyone in it can bring their own 3DS's I dunno why have Street Fighter 4 tournaments at Evo when it's easier to have Street Fighter 4 for 3ds.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:24
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KennyMan666 posted:Do you people seriously not expect there to be tournaments happening for both versions or something? When there's going to be a console version that you can actually make out your character in, other people can spectate/commentate on, and players can use the controller they've been using for the last thirteen years instead of the awful 3DS controls that don't even have a right stick? No, I don't. The second the Wii U version is out nobody in the competitive scene is going to give a gently caress about the 3DS version.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:25
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Unlocked Flame Chain for Ganondorf, and with that I've unlocked all of Ganondorf's custom moves. Holy poo poo, Ganondorf's customs are awesome! Warlock Blade has both armor and great reach, Flame Chain turns his force choke into a multi-hit damage racker and Dark Fists is a two-hit KO move with high vertical recovery! And then there's Wizard's Dropkick which owns everything! Avoiding a variety of basic projectiles and expanded horizontal recovery are only two of it's possible applications... 
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Oct 10, 2014 22:26
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Sire Oblivion posted:I'm pretty sure Tournaments sure as poo poo won't be run on 3DSes. There's tournaments now, so it's not like it's something impossible. Side tournaments are certainly possible to save the TV's for the main event. Dr Pepper posted:How on earth is it easier to run a tournament for the WiiU version, where the person running it will have to aquire several TVs, WiiUs, copies of the game, complete with save files that have everything unlocked; then the 3DS version, in which the tournament organizer just needs to set up a building and everyone in it can bring their own 3DS's You don't seem to understand half the point of big tournaments for any game is the ability to stream, and streaming 3DS battles is the biggest poo poo period.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:29
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TechnoSyndrome posted:When there's going to be a console version that you can actually make out your character in, other people can spectate/commentate on, and players can use the controller they've been using for the last thirteen years instead of the awful 3DS controls that don't even have a right stick? No, I don't. That's a pretty dumb thing to think. There's no reason there won't be tournaments for both version.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:36
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KennyMan666 posted:Do you people seriously not expect there to be tournaments happening for both versions or something? Considering it's the same game with different stages, they won't be treating them as separate games. Especially when no one except the players can watch unless you have a $300 mod on your OG 3DS. Tae posted:There's tournaments now, so it's not like it's something impossible. Side tournaments are certainly possible to save the TV's for the main event. There's only tournaments now for the 3DS version because it's all we have. Once the Wii U version drops and people can use their GC pads there's not going to be any majors using the 3DS version unless they agree to get through pools quickly with 3DS matches (which would be smart). But then you have to factor in people using custom equipment and moves (I can see them using the latter, not the former) and how the stage selection is a 50/50 which you won't have to deal with on the Wii U version. How many tournaments did you see of Super Street Fighter 4 3D?
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Oct 10, 2014 22:42
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TechnoSyndrome posted:A tournament in the version of the game where nobody can watch except the players sure sounds like fun. I can't wait for the hype as gently caress Evo finals where I get to stare at the back of some nerds' heads for twenty minutes. The 3DS playing jigglypuff is hooked up to the capture card. That said, I think 3DS tournaments will be relegated to a casual thing once Wii U comes out.
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Oct 10, 2014 22:59
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When the WiiU version comes out, tournaments will be on it. Fin
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Oct 10, 2014 23:00
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Folt The Bolt posted:Holy poo poo, Ganondorf's customs are awesome! Warlock Blade has both armor and great reach, Flame Chain turns his force choke into a multi-hit damage racker and Dark Fists is a two-hit KO move with high vertical recovery! And then there's Wizard's Dropkick which owns everything! Avoiding a variety of basic projectiles and expanded horizontal recovery are only two of it's possible applications...
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Oct 10, 2014 23:05
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The only mechanical difference between the versions that's relevant to multiplayer is the stage selection, and tourney players have ruled out almost all of the 3DS stages anyway. Everything else-- control options, mitigation of lag, visual appeal for audiences-- leans in the Wii U version's favour.
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Oct 10, 2014 23:11
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Shadow Hog posted:He even uses his sword for some of them, right? People can no longer make fun of Ganondorf for this. Only for Warlock Blade. But yes, it does mean he's using his sword.
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Oct 10, 2014 23:29
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Is there a text dump of all the loading screen tips somewhere?
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Oct 11, 2014 01:10
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This is my first Smash game, so can I ask what the second stick does in console Smashes?
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Oct 11, 2014 01:29
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There's going to be character transfer, odds are good people can use their own 3ds to set up characters and then use them on Wii U anyway.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:33
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TechnoSyndrome posted:The second the Wii U version is out nobody in the competitive scene is going to give a gently caress about the 3DS version. I'm worried about the online scene on the 3DS when the WiiU version comes out. I don't have a WiiU and I don't think I'll get one, what if the 3DS community completely evaporates whent he WiiU version comes out? Schneider Heim posted:This is my first Smash game, so can I ask what the second stick does in console Smashes? It executes quick (no charge-up) smash moves.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:33
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Cleretic posted:I'm worried about the online scene on the 3DS when the WiiU version comes out. I don't have a WiiU and I don't think I'll get one, what if the 3DS community completely evaporates whent he WiiU version comes out? Unlikely, considering how many people own a 3DS vs. how many people own a WiiU. It's possible that Smash 4 WiiU will sell 3 million consoles but I doubt it.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:35
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Cleretic posted:It executes quick (no charge-up) smash moves.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:37
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Nothing more irritating than getting trophies when you wanna get little wrenches in Classic Mode. They should at least not give you repeated moves/gear/clothes, if they're gonna make it random 
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Oct 11, 2014 01:41
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Calaveron posted:Nothing more irritating than getting trophies when you wanna get little wrenches in Classic Mode.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:52
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Calaveron posted:Nothing more irritating than getting trophies when you wanna get little wrenches in Classic Mode. If you hit the home button and then immediately press A when resuming, you'll basically get the icon on the wheel or the one just after.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:22
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I hope whoever designed rival smash gets hit by a bus and dies. I've passed 50 so many times and the stupid rear end subtraction always carries it over. I can kill the rival a infinite amount of times and he suffers no penalty and it's so goddamn stupid. Even if it only subtracted like 5 I'd understand but the second your percent is high enough to get knocked away from the stage goodfucking bye having a good run because the mii's swarm the AI and he just racks up the numbers to take away from you. What a terrible terrible challenge.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:35
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I hope whoever designed rival smash gets hit by a bus and dies. Use your best character and completely ignore the rival, he's dumb and most likely won't do poo poo to you, just try and smash those mother fuckers and if you see the rival starts getting close smash him away. Focus 100% on the Miis.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:49
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Cleretic posted:It executes quick (no charge-up) smash moves. I see! Now I know what I'm missing out.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:50
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I hope whoever designed rival smash gets hit by a bus and dies. FinalGamer posted:Smash Run gives you much better success in general, plus it tends to align itself in giving a more highly likelihood of getting customs towards the character you're using, that's how I got everything for Little Mac and Pac-Man within a half-hour.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:52
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Sire Oblivion posted:Use your best character and completely ignore the rival, he's dumb and most likely won't do poo poo to you, just try and smash those mother fuckers and if you see the rival starts getting close smash him away. Focus 100% on the Miis. The rival actually focuses on me instead of the mii's. I kill him about 3 times per attempt because he refuses to leave me alone and by then I have about 150% and he has 3 kills. I get knocked from the stage and he suddenly goes after mii's till I get back. I tried the DK method but the AI keeps jumping in with air side b and knocking me out of it.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:57
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:I hope whoever designed rival smash gets hit by a bus and dies. Yeah, this challenge loving sucked for me. This is the only challenge I couldn't do as Jigglypuff because the AI Jiggly was just too perfect (and it was really easy to get confused between myself and the AI). I beat it with Mario since I have the most practice with him (from playing the demo). It helped that AI Mario likes to throw fireballs and cape a lot so it kept his kills lower than I imagine another AI might get.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:03
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... why does Little Mac have a wall jump?!
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Oct 11, 2014 03:08
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ThisIsACoolGuy posted:The rival actually focuses on me instead of the mii's. I kill him about 3 times per attempt because he refuses to leave me alone and by then I have about 150% and he has 3 kills. I get knocked from the stage and he suddenly goes after mii's till I get back. Use Dedede and shoot gordos and use his UP+B.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:08
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Rival Smash is really easy if you have something with good vertical range that can take out a lot of enemies really easily, like Pikachu's Thunder or Ike's Aether. Even if the rival comes over, he'll just be sent flying pretty quickly. I've gotten over 50 in my first attempts with those.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:10
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Orange Crush Rush posted:... why does Little Mac have a wall jump?! The logic behind who does and doesn't get a wall jump, outside of 'people wo can walk jump in their own games can here', is very nebulous and weird.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:10
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I just discovered the trophy descriptions. My god, some of these are gold. I actually want to unlock all of these now!
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Oct 11, 2014 03:15
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Finally beat Classic 9.0 with Ganon. Between this and Hyrule Warriors I'm really finding a new love for the 'Dorf.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:16
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explosivo posted:I just discovered the trophy descriptions. My god, some of these are gold. I actually want to unlock all of these now! I heard a rumor that Shigesato Itoi wrote the trophy descriptions and loading screen tips and stuff. Which would explain some of the weirder poo poo like the 1-up Mushroom trophy description edit: Link's Shield blocking projectiles while neutral has been a thing since 64. Although it did get buffed pretty hard in Smash 4. Orange Crush Rush fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 03:26
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So, Link (and more importantly, Toon Link) have this insane property in their shields. When you're standing still or walking slowly, or crouching, and not attacking, their shields will block basically any projectile. Including, but not limited to: Basically any of Megaman's attacks except Metal Blade which passes through. Any charged ball of energy (Mii Gunner's, Samus', Lucario's), Lucario's Side B, Zelda's Din's Fire and Phantom Slash, all of the fireballs and pills, boomarangs , Rosalina's Neutral B, thundershocks, flame breaths, PK blasts, Cannonballs, bowling balls-- Honestly it'd be easier to type what they DON'T block. It doesn't block: Fox or Falco's Lazers. Samus' Morph Ball Bomb Villager's slingshot back air (but it does block the forward air I dunno) Robin's Thoron (but it does block every other thunder spell and arcfire) Olimar's Pikmin Throw. Megaman's Metal Blade (as it passes through) Greninja's Water Shuriken. But only funny charged does it pass through. but yeah. if it isn't any of those and it is a projectile, it'll just stop it dead in its track. Its also a great way to deal with huge pains like Zero Suit and the Clown Car.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:32
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I heard a rumor that Shigesato Itoi wrote the trophy descriptions and loading screen tips and stuff. Which would explain some of the weirder poo poo like the 1-up Mushroom trophy description That would explain why the Paragoomba description uses the word "I" (which I found a little odd). There is another trophy with "we", but I guess it's much less specific.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:I heard a rumor that Shigesato Itoi wrote the trophy descriptions and loading screen tips and stuff. Which would explain some of the weirder poo poo like the 1-up Mushroom trophy description It'd be really awesome if this were the case, and would actually make enough sense that at least some Earthbound staff wrote some, but I doubt it was Itoi writing all the trophies. More likely, he and Sakurai just have a similar sense of humor that's coming through in the text of this game.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:37
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