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The drawings reminded me of Sokka's drawings and that made me happy.
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King of Foolians posted:I've seen others refer to the possability of Korra reconnecting with past lives and I don't understand where this idea comes from. In season 2 they pretty clearly showed the 'past lives' getting disintegrated when Unalaq ripped Raava out of Korra and kept hitting her. To me it looked pretty clear that whatever memory of past lives Raava retained were gone, gone for good, hence the next season being called "Change". At least for me the idea comes from the fact that Raava has been shown to regenerate over time: she was destroyed but started reforming after some time had passed. It is feasible to me that after literally years had passed she would have reformed enough for the past lives to become accessible, since the past lives were originally available as extensions of Raava. I do think it would be gimmicky (which is one of the reasons I'm torn about it) but it's not unprecedented: see the infamous rock in the finale of the original series, the finale of Book 1 of Korra, etc. Plus, Aang may not have found a secret colony of airbenders but he did find a secret colony of sky bison, which to me is pretty similar. Originally Momo was supposed to be the reincarnation of Monk Gyatso. Though that was dropped it indicates at least to me that mass reincarnation is present. An often repeated sentiment in this series is that friendships can transcend lifetimes, after all.
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Oct 11, 2014 01:56
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Well wasn't one of the points behind The Firelord and the Avatar to communicate to Zuko that his being drawn to Aang's side was not just because of "honour" but instead was predestined? Or something, I'm pretty sure Iroh said stuff about spirits during that conversation but I can't remember exact words. also Bongo Bill posted:I just assumed Meelo drew the pictures. This, this is what I thought too while she was reading all her letters, I was like "aww Meelo drew her pictures  I wonder if Ikki or Jinora sent correspondences too"
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Oct 11, 2014 02:07
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Yea I get the impression everyone in this setting reincarnates, they just don't have a spirit linking them to their past lives.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:08
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X_Toad posted:Same here, Bolin's narration was trying way too hard, I don't know how you could get something like that out of pictures. That's the joke. WTF is with you people? I was trying really hard to hate the little spirit but I think they did fine with it. Ign had a go at the obvious elements of the monomyth in this story (refusal of the call mostly) but I think they missed on things like help from without, mentor figures and the failure of the divine boon (magic tree?) I'm pretty rusty with things like this.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:10
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Good show good episodes Toph is rad.
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Oct 11, 2014 02:59
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Regalingualius posted:But in all seriousness, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how Korra's training goes. Though I'm also curious to see what Kuvira will do to make herself Korra's final antagonist; as of now, she really hasn't done anything that necessitates Korra stepping in to bring her down. Right now Kuvira is portrayed as misguided rather than antagonistic, which means there will probably be some plot point that will throw her off the deep end. I think the death/capture of her fiancee will be that catalyst (by Zaheer or accidentally by Wu?), as the guy just seems very "redshirt" to me. The fiance guy seems to be Kuvira's "earthly tether" to reality, and losing him will only strengthen her conviction for reunification, eventually leading to superfacism/war on United Republic. That or they just reveal she's been secretly E.V.I.L. the entire time. After season 2, I think that's a definite possibility.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:20
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I see Kuvira the other way around, really. She's not misguided at all, but she's hella antagonistic.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:37
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Just watched episode 2, really loved Bolin's take on Ken Burns. Really loving funny.
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Oct 11, 2014 03:44
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Is it just me, or is Toph kinda like Yoda? (Old person/alien living in a swamp with great powers teaching a young student important life lessons)
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Oct 11, 2014 03:55
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PaulDirac posted:Is it just me, or is Toph kinda like Yoda? (Old person/alien living in a swamp with great powers teaching a young student important life lessons) 
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Oct 11, 2014 03:57
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PaulDirac posted:Is it just me, or is Toph kinda like Yoda? (Old person/alien living in a swamp with great powers teaching a young student important life lessons) It's not just you, go look at the previous page of this thread. thexerox123 posted:There's already some pretty great fanart on this subject from just after the season 4 trailer dropped:
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Oct 11, 2014 04:09
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PaulDirac posted:Is it just me, or is Toph kinda like Yoda? (Old person/alien living in a swamp with great powers teaching a young student important life lessons) Don't be ridiculous.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:10
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BrianWilly posted:I see Kuvira the other way around, really. She's not misguided at all, but she's hella antagonistic. Seriously. The show has made it pretty clear that it's all a big power grab. Anything she says to the contrary is just politicking.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:13
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Is the tree toph is living under the same tree from aang's vision in the swamp in TLA? It always bugged me in the first series that he saw toph in the swamp. Maybe visions transcend lifetimes as well.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:27
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Rewatching that last scene... "I found you passed out in the mud." "How'd you know I was out there?" "I'm pretty tapped in to the goings-on around here." She can totally see the whole surrounding area through vibrations in the roots, can't she?
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Oct 11, 2014 04:37
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To all of you wondering, I think we all know how Korra's training will go. We've seen her lose faith and retrain every loving season.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:37
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captain innocuous posted:Is the tree toph is living under the same tree from aang's vision in the swamp in TLA? She is Bran from Game of Thrones sending her awareness back in time via the weir-swamp duh.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:38
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Words Of Mice posted:Right now Kuvira is portrayed as misguided rather than antagonistic, which means there will probably be some plot point that will throw her off the deep end. I think the death/capture of her fiancee will be that catalyst (by Zaheer or accidentally by Wu?), as the guy just seems very "redshirt" to me. The fiance guy seems to be Kuvira's "earthly tether" to reality, and losing him will only strengthen her conviction for reunification, eventually leading to superfacism/war on United Republic. I don't think Kuvira is misguided: I think she's determined, strong-willed, and has a definite sense of how the world should be run and that's supposed to contrast with Korra's loss of her sense of self. She's antagonistic just by who she is. I'm also not sure they'd kill off Toph's grandson, however disposable he seems to be. I don't think he even had lines last season. Drifter posted:To all of you wondering, I think we all know how Korra's training will go. Every time I recall the end of Book 1 I laugh. I think Book 4 Korra would kill to be at Book 1 Korra's lowest point.
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Oct 11, 2014 04:52
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I don't see Kuvira as misguided. She's uniting a country. And she is taking care of those cities who fall in line with her. Until it shows she's actually colluding with the bandits, she seems like a person who knows that a fractured country can't survive, and that the current government is a crock of poo poo.
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Oct 11, 2014 05:01
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^^^^^^ Plus the guy who should be doing this is growing up in exile and is also Prince Wu. Who else is going to do it? The Earth Queen seems to have made an attempt to control everything unlike her father and the one adviser we saw was no Long Feng. The only alternative that we've seen is Suyin and she made her views clear in the third season.
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Oct 11, 2014 05:11
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Sato posted:^^^^^^ She was more than fair with the town the airbenders were trying to help, I thought. She was basically saying "Hey, you look like you've got yourself into quite a situation with some lovely people. We'll be your police force, but we need your support if you're going to be supported by us. This poo poo ain't free, you know." She even left when the town leader told her to, initially (but she wasn't stupid so she hung around nearby - like two little loving kids are going to save the day forever  ).
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Oct 11, 2014 05:24
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While it's easy to say that Kulvira is trying to establish fascism in the Earth Kindom (her treatment of the bandits was definitely a little... out there) it's really unlikely that Prince Wu would be a good leader either. Maybe she really is someone trying to make the Earth kingdom a better place? We'll see, but I have a feeling that Suyin's son is really the one to keep an eye out for. If the bandits who attacked Opal and Kai were actually working for someone (and they probably were, given the airplane) I bet it's him and Varrick. Varrick, of course, isn't after power, but war profiteering.
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Oct 11, 2014 05:44
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I know it's been mentioned before, but can I just say that it was the absolutely stupidest tv moment when the bandit fought the airbenders in midair and stole their supplies. Like, literally the stupidest fight scene. Absolutely moronic. Shame on the writers. Have the airship bombard the flying bison and have a strap snap and send the supplies tumbling. I know they were perhaps trying to showcase how inexperienced/overextended the airbending nation was, but good god. Drifter fucked around with this message at 06:01 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 05:58
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Drifter posted:I don't see Kuvira as misguided. She's uniting a country. And she is taking care of those cities who fall in line with her.
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Oct 11, 2014 06:10
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achillesforever6 posted:Well good intentions and all that; basically she's doing what you do a in the first mission of the Genghis Khan campaign of Age of Empires II Is she killing anyone who isn't attacking innocent towns?
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Oct 11, 2014 06:21
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achillesforever6 posted:Well good intentions and all that; basically she's doing what you do a in the first mission of the Genghis Khan campaign of Age of Empires II Literally the only mission I remember 
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Oct 11, 2014 06:21
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"So, I'm not very good at writing letters. It's 2:15 in the afternoon. Weather is fair. Chance of snow showers later today. But enough joking around."
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Oct 11, 2014 06:39
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lelandjs posted:While it's easy to say that Kulvira is trying to establish fascism in the Earth Kindom (her treatment of the bandits was definitely a little... out there) it's really unlikely that Prince Wu would be a good leader either. Maybe she really is someone trying to make the Earth kingdom a better place? I think its a mistake to label Kuvira as fascist since its a western political ideology... you should look more to Asian nationalists movements like the Chinese Kuomintang. I'd wager Kuvira's efforts take a lot of inspiration from Chiang Kai Shek's Northern Expedition. As to the airplane bandit, I think he's working for Kuvira. Maybe not directly, but he gets his orders from somebody within her movement. In a place as chaotic as the Earth Kingdom it would make a lot of sense to establish networks of spies and agents among the bandits. I doubt it'd be the first time she's had deniable assets for dirty work, its just good realpolitik. Think about it, you're trying to re-unite a bunch of states that have had 3 years or so of independence. Some of them are going to want to rejoin the fold, and some are going to need a little push. You could invade and annex them, but wouldn't it look so much better if they came to you looking for help after a particularly bad bandit raid?
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Oct 11, 2014 07:16
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Is the evil spirit Korra about to hatch a baby Vaatu? Isn't he supposed to be reborn from Raava?
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Oct 11, 2014 07:22
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Yep this show is cool. Not quite as good as Zuko Alone, but that's a pretty high bar. I almost choked on my drink during the sushi shack scene. And I was happy to see the return/child/same voice actor of that cool spirit Wan met at the oasis.
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Oct 11, 2014 07:27
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Andrew_1985 posted:Is the evil spirit Korra about to hatch a baby Vaatu? Isn't he supposed to be reborn from Raava? Korra currently has no connection to Raava. That phantom is taking the appearance of the Avatar State, which is to say, Raava. Bongo Bill fucked around with this message at 09:11 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 09:08
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At least Bolin gets what writing letters is all about.
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Great second episode! I got spoiled about Toph's appearance, but, hell, we all knew that since the trailer anyway. It was really heartbreaking to see Korra get smacked around; I'm glad they actually bothered to deal with depression/trauma this way, this should make the coming plot that much more interesting. It was spot-on how everybody kept telling her to get better, take her time etc. when it's absolutely clear Korra has no idea how to do that, and it's frustrating to no end. The "Are you sure she's the Avatar" was just mean.  I'm not sure what Toph can even do to help out Korra, but I'm sure she has some wisdom to impart - or at least something to reveal about her daughters.I've gotta say: once again, I have absolutely no idea where this is going, and that is great. Bolin will definitely have his own plot, Asami probably will if her father really shows up again, and I'm still not convinced that Kuvira is the "final" villain (SUYIN IS EVIL I'M TELLING YOU WHY WILL NOBODY HEED MY WARNING). I can't imagine they're gonna leave Mako hanging without some closure, and I'm sure Tenzin will still get to  Concerning future plot: I'm sure Kuvira will turn out to be a power-hungry villain, and that she hired at least some bandits for her great unification goal, but she doesn't strike me as villain material on the scale of Amon, Unalaq or Zaheer: she doesn't seem larger than life, and compared to these three, her goals are outright down to earth. The latter is not why I don't consider her final supervillain material, mind you. She also doesn't have a personal enmity with the Avatar: the Avatar is, if she should become an enemy for real, an obstacle, not an ideological opposite (so far, at least). We still have to see, but that's my first impression. I have a feeling we'll have a twist or two somewhere later on (IT'S SUYIN SHE'S RED LOTUS SHE HEALED KORRA ONLY BECAUSE SHE HAS HER OWN GOALS AND DITCHED THE RED LOTUS THERE WILL BE AN EPIC BEIFONG SHOWDOWN I'M TELLING YOU). Uuuuughhhhh why do I have to wait a week
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Torquemadras posted:her goals are outright down to earth I get it
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Oct 11, 2014 13:58
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Azipod posted:I think its a mistake to label Kuvira as fascist since its a western political ideology... you should look more to Asian nationalists movements like the Chinese Kuomintang. I'd wager Kuvira's efforts take a lot of inspiration from Chiang Kai Shek's Northern Expedition. Asian politics in general tended toward one party authoritarian states though. Kuvira seems to be a mix of the GMD reunification thing as you said, but also the Japanese Imperial Army, which are at least associated with Fascism if nothing else. Arguably that makes her more  like, because his main gimmick was a one party authoritarian state and taking back the lands lost from a terrible conflict.
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computer parts posted:Asian politics in general tended toward one party authoritarian states though. Kuvira seems to be a mix of the GMD reunification thing as you said, but also the Japanese Imperial Army, which are at least associated with Fascism if nothing else. Arguably that makes her more Hah! She's Nobunaga.
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Oct 11, 2014 14:34
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Earth Kingdom minorities currently living in the Fire Nation are agitating for reunification with the Earth Kingdom, clearly this is casus belli for us to occupy the islands. The dream of a Großerdesreich is finally within our grasp. 
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Oct 11, 2014 14:38
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Something tells me Zuko won't be a good Chamberlain replacement.
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It's definitely GMD politics, I'd wager she probably wouldn't even take the crown either, if she can make Prince Wu her puppet that would be ideal, but in the end I don't think she would flinch from just being Commander in Chief in a 'State of Emergency' until the day she dies.Bongo Bill posted:I get it Shut up Nappa!
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