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eigenstate posted:The clip is actually from Vesti Nedeli (News of the week), Kiselev's program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiPYWmm-wjs It's the preview for an upcoming film called "MH-17: Interrupted flight" by Arkady Mamontov to be aired Oct 11 at 6:55pm, so set your DVRs. In one televised commentary, he said "[Gays] should be prohibited from donating blood, sperm,... And their hearts, in case they die in a car accident, should be buried or burned as unfit for extending anyone's life,"[2] suggesting that the internal organs of homosexuals should be burned and buried rather than be accepted for organ transplants.
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Someone should suggest to the Westboro Baptists that they could get legit television time if they emigrated to Russia.
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Cuntpunch posted:Whether it's Russia-as-master-race or there-are-no-food-shortages, these are attractive lies and believing them is some small comfort in a world where their society is rotting. One thing is from what I can tell there really aren't food shortages, the price of food may be going up but availability of products hasn't changed.
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About 20,000 people protested in Yerevan today against joining the Eurasian Union. http://www.interfax.com/newsinf.asp?id=543140 quote:
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vegaji posted:For reference to everyone who doesn't know, Mamontov blaimed the Russian LGBT community for the Chelyabinsk meteorite and Kiselev is the guy who said that Russia could turn USA into radioactive dust, and said this (c/p from Wikipedia): So he believes homosexuals should be disposed of like vampires. drat Russia is weird. 
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quote:Sweden and Finland plan joint airspace surveillance http://yle.fi/uutiset/sweden_and_finland_plan_joint_airspace_surveillance/7522985 It wasn't mentioned in the article but apparently there also plans to allow both countries to use each other's airbases.
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vegaji posted:For reference to everyone who doesn't know, Mamontov blaimed the Russian LGBT community for the Chelyabinsk meteorite and Kiselev is the guy who said that Russia could turn USA into radioactive dust, and said this (c/p from Wikipedia): And he was appointed by Putin as head of Rossiya Segodnya, so this sort of as official as news gets in Russia.
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Oct 11, 2014 08:55
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Best Friends posted:The ethnic Russians posting in this thread are more "lol you can't stop us" than expressing any real fear so I'm not sure that's true. That's not true, most actual russians itt make level-headed and intelligent posts. Also let's not demonize a whole people because some of them/their leadership are idiots, please
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Hey ya'll, ya boi 3peat is back to tell you that today is the greatest day of the year, as it's the day when Bucharest will host the Trianon Derby! To tide us over, let's take a look at last year's Trianon Derby, also held in Bucharest:                    Last year, the visiting Hungarian fans only destroyed a train, a few buses, a few sections of the stadium and the historical center of Bucharest. And they only suffered one dead and a few dozen injured. Quite tame for the proud descendants of Attila and Genghis Khan. Meanwhile, the Romanian fans couldn't reach the Hungarians because of the army of gendarmes between them, so they had to contend with beating each other up. Will this year's events top last year? I hope they do! As for the actual football, these are two of the worst teams in the world; the game will make the Special Olympics look like the World Cup final. Can't wait! And finally, a polandball  
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I'm enjoying the little Roma-ball cutely napping on the front bumper. Too bad about the stupid ball-meme's racism.
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3peat posted:That's not true, most actual russians itt make level-headed and intelligent posts. Seconding. Anyway, as I mentioned in the return of fascism to Europe thread, Dveri HQ in Belgrade is spending quite a bit of money to get as many members of their various branches to show up at the Serbia vs Albania football game. I suspect they'll try to cause some sort of incident to try to undo the positive results of the recent EU report and the Pride Parade in Belgrade.
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So I guess with the Russians, the ethnic Hungarians are also the "bad guys"?
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Ardennes posted:So I guess with the Russians, the ethnic Hungarians are also the "bad guys"? What? my dad posted:Anyway, as I mentioned in the return of fascism to Europe thread, Dveri HQ in Belgrade is spending quite a bit of money to get as many members of their various branches to show up at the Serbia vs Albania football game. I suspect they'll try to cause some sort of incident to try to undo the positive results of the recent EU report and the Pride Parade in Belgrade. Romania-Hungary and Serbia-Albania in one day, it's like the Balkan Christmas
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Oct 11, 2014 12:33
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3peat posted:Hey ya'll, ya boi 3peat is back to tell you that today is the greatest day of the year, as it's the day when Bucharest will host the Trianon Derby! Next time I'm in Europe I think I will avoid the sports venues 
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Oct 11, 2014 12:34
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3peat posted:What? "Quite tame for the proud descendants of Attila and Genghis Khan." Did I misread the "breadcrumbs" here? I guess it was only in jest. quote:Next time I'm in Europe I think I will avoid the sports venues Avoid them if there is a game between two countries/two clubs who hate each other's guts. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 12:36
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3peat posted:And finally, a polandball What flag is the one on the roof supposed to be?
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Oct 11, 2014 12:42
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3peat posted:Hey ya'll, ya boi 3peat is back to tell you that today is the greatest day of the year, as it's the day when Bucharest will host the Trianon Derby!
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Oct 11, 2014 12:43
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Ardennes posted:"Quite tame for the proud descendants of Attila and Genghis Khan." Oh that was supposed to be a joke post about the idiotic nationalism surrounding this game, and romanian nationalists call hungarians "mongols", while hungarian nationalists call romanians "gypsies"; sorry if you found it problematic 
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I thought it was about the great ideology of Turanism http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turanism
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ringu0 posted:I need some help with the context. What do the banners say on these photos? What's the significance of both dates, 1914 and 1918? 1914 is before Romania joined the war, and 1918 was the war ended. That said, 1920 is probably more important because thats when the territory that Romania was supposed to receive was actually formally acknowledged. In 1919, Romania and Hungary also fought a war which dissolved the Hungarian Soviet Republic which was the only geninue communist state to form along with the Soviets during that period. Trianon was important because it formally broke up the Kingdom of Hungary into roughly present-day borders, Hungarians are still pissed about this because a rather large Hungarian minority was left outside their borders and it has more or less fueled Hungarian revanchism to this day. Hungary allied with Nazi Germany in part to revise those borders. quote:Oh that was supposed to be a joke post about the idiotic nationalism surrounding this game, and romanian nationalists call hungarians "mongols", while hungarian nationalists call romanians "gypsies"; sorry if you found it problematic Yeah it is rather hard to tell it was a "joke" to be honest. That said, it isn't a Eastern Europe thread if you can't make "jokes" about your ancestral enemies. Most of your post was pictures making ethnic Hungarians look stupid and violent. I remember visiting Cluj years ago and all the curbs and trash cans across town being painted the colors of the Romanian national flag. On the other separate issue there is the only other issue of Kiselev being called "mainstream" when his views are still radical compared to what the average Russian actually believes. Also, there is also that poster that thinks Russians believe they are the "master race" that wants to conquer humanity. Where do you draw the line on "justifiable xenophobia?" Ardennes fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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Oct 11, 2014 12:57
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ringu0 posted:I need some help with the context. What do the banners say on these photos? What's the significance of both dates, 1914 and 1918?
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Ardennes posted:Yeah it is rather hard to tell it was a "joke" to be honest. That said, it isn't a Eastern Europe thread if you can't make "jokes" about your ancestral enemies. Most of your post was pictures making ethnic Hungarians look stupid and violent. I remember visiting Cluj years ago and all the curbs and trash cans across town being painted the colors of the Romanian national flag. Those weren't regular ethnic Hungarians, they were ultras with plenty of Jobbik members and other neonazis among them, and they were responsible for most of the violence last year; the only violence from Romanian ultras was when supporters of rival Bucharest clubs beat each other in the stands, which I did mention and posted pictures of. About Cluj, those painted trashcans and park benches are the legacy of former mayor Funar, who became the butt of jokes here because of it. I don't know if any painted flags are left considering they have a more sane ( although corrupt and incompetent) mayor these days.
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Kopijeger posted:What flag is the one on the roof supposed to be? Szekely flag.
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Apparently at the CIS summit in Minsk yesterday Putin and president of Moldova Nicolae Timofti almost came to blows. http://www.mk.ru/politics/2014/10/10/na-sammite-v-minske-putin-vstupil-v-rezkiy-konflikt-s-prezidentom-moldovy.html quote:CIS summit in Minsk, suddenly turned into a public flogging Poroshenko. Commonwealth leaders have condemned his absence at the annual meeting, and some participants were forced to admit that, unlike Western politicians have not yet had the opportunity to personally meet with the Ukrainian president. Vladimir Putin, in turn, entered into a verbal argument with the head of Moldova Nicolae Timofti, which is the same as Poroshenko, signed the Association Agreement with the EU. Journalists who could not hear what the president says, at some point, it seemed that they are about to mate with each other.
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3peat posted:Those weren't regular ethnic Hungarians, they were ultras with plenty of Jobbik members and other neonazis among them, and they were responsible for most of the violence last year; the only violence from Romanian ultras was when supporters of rival Bucharest clubs beat each other in the stands, which I did mention and posted pictures of. It obviously highlights a lot of long standing animosity though and it doesn't take much to put two and two together even if it is a "joke." I wonder if random posters will show up to call Hungarians or maybe even Serbians "Asiatics" like they do with Russians.
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Ardennes posted:Yeah it is rather hard to tell it was a "joke" to be honest. I got it as a joke easy enough, maybe you're just a tightass?
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Cliff Racer posted:I got it as a joke easy enough, maybe you're just a tightass? It was certainly a "joke" with an edge to it. Ardennes fucked around with this message at 14:17 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Journalists who could not hear what the president says, at some point, it seemed that they are about to mate with each other. Sounds spicy.
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3peat posted:Sounds spicy. Google translate seems to think so. Ukrainian news source claims that Russia National Unity, which is operating in Donbass, wants to extend the NovoRossyia brand to Belarus. http://uapress.info/ru/news/show/42627/ quote:Russian neo-Nazi organization Russian National Unity (RNE), actively participating in terrorist aggression on the Ukrainian Donbass, now calls on his supporters to start preparing to undermine the territorial integrity of the Republic of Belarus. The article doesn't state which social networks these statements were made. I did find this image here. HUGE PUBES A PLUS fucked around with this message at 14:39 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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quote:Journalists who could not hear what the president says, at some point, it seemed that they are about to mate with each other. 
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Trianon Derby update: the circus is about to start Romanian ultras are gonna have a giant romanian flag which has the first article of the constitution written on it, which says that Romania is an unitary and indivisible state, which is supposed to make the hungarians angry cause they want Erdely; I really doubt they'll care tho edit: they played the hungarian anthem, but you couldn't hear anything because of the boos and pyrotechnics; thankfully no violence yet, just a lot of smoke from the flares and stuff edit2: the 2 groups of ultras are bombarding eachother with flares and firecrackers, so every 2-3 seconds you can hear a loud boom; this Fallujah atmosphere contrasts hilariously with the terrible football on the pitch also I was too quick with the "no violence" part, apparently there's bad incidents among the romanian fans, and one fell from a high fence; I guess Steaua and Dinamo fans are beating eachother once again edit3: the hungarians scored, but it was offside. this game is really bad, I almost want the hungarians to win and put us out of our misery 3peat fucked around with this message at 17:41 on Oct 11, 2014 |
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3peat posted:That's not true, most actual russians itt make level-headed and intelligent posts. Yeah, as far as I can tell only a couple of russians appear to be actual putinistas and the most strident one is a recent acquisition.
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HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Google translate seems to think so. Pro-Russian rebels popping up in Belarus would probably not be in keeping with Putin's goals at the moment, and the rebels have so far been almost entirely dependent on Russian backing. As interesting (read: worrying) as it would be to see Putin's support for ultranationalism and separatist violence go Frankenstein's Monster on him, it probably won't.
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A recent poll on how Ukrainians are going to vote on October, 26 (parliamentary elections): 1. Petro Poroshenko’s bloc (Klychko) – 29.9% 2. Fatherland (Tymoshenko) – 8.7% 3. Radical party (Liashko) – 7.6% 4. Civic position (Hrytsenko) – 7.3% 5. People’s front (Jatseniuk) – 7.0% The other parties, including the ex-party-of-regions organizations (the Opposition bloc and Strong Ukraine) as well as Svoboda and Right Sector, are way below the 5% barrier for entry into parliament. 55% to 72% of Ukrainians are going to vote. http://www.gfk.ua/ua/news-and-events/press-room/press-releases/pages/20141010-press-release.aspx
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Dolash posted:Pro-Russian rebels popping up in Belarus would probably not be in keeping with Putin's goals at the moment, and the rebels have so far been almost entirely dependent on Russian backing. As interesting (read: worrying) as it would be to see Putin's support for ultranationalism and separatist violence go Frankenstein's Monster on him, it probably won't. I dunno, as far as I'm aware, arming radical groups, especially those in your own country, has backfired every single time in modern history. There's really no way this won't come back to bite Putin, I'd say. The question is mostly just how bad the situation will really get.
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Finlander posted:I dunno, as far as I'm aware, arming radical groups, especially those in your own country, has backfired every single time in modern history. There's really no way this won't come back to bite Putin, I'd say. The question is mostly just how bad the situation will really get.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:Except that in this case the "radicals" are like 80% Russian regulars who I'm sure would be perfectly happy to murder their freedom-loving Donbass comrades. Russian regulars are one of the minorities mostly in charge of command and being cannon fodder when they have to bail the terrorists out, I thought, while the majority was Russian right-wing extremists and terrorists, who Putin is now actively arming and training. I'm the last person to every call the Russian terrorists anything but. The point is that arming and training terrorists in your own country so they can fight for you is an almost suicidal move which has never worked out for anybody. And while the idea of Putin getting hoisted by his own petard is cool and good to me, the amount of suffering and terror brought to, say, minorities in Russia, who will surely be the first to be targeted once the now emboldened, empowered and heavily armed terrorists return to Russia doesn't sound so great.
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Finlander posted:I dunno, as far as I'm aware, arming radical groups, especially those in your own country, has backfired every single time in modern history. There's really no way this won't come back to bite Putin, I'd say. The question is mostly just how bad the situation will really get. Encouraging radical groups from your own country to leave your borders and fight your political enemies has a much better track record, though. It's working out pretty well for Saudi Arabia, why not Russia too?
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MeLKoR posted:Yeah, as far as I can tell only a couple of russians appear to be actual putinistas and the most strident one is a recent acquisition. Agreed, the putinistas just tend to emphasize their Russian-ness more because nationalists tend to be more obsessed with that kind of stuff.
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