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So yeah, I'm giving this one an A. And I'm a little disturbed that I agree with Myrddin Emrys, but whatevs~
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:26 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:17 |
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I had to pause on my laptop for a second to giggle when the Doctor offered the historian a cigar pack but with jelly babies. Loved it.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:26 |
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Perkins goes right there with Duggan for me as a temporary I wish could've been a full companion. Loved the ep, and given the Doctor's recent "Soldiers bad!" thing it's interesting to see him meet some soldiers for whom he can feel some sympathy, the ones who get chewed up and spat out by war. And next week, invasion from Flatland! Edit: Yeah, the cigarette case filled with jelly babies was a nice moment. On that note, the scene where the Doctor is talking with himself as he starts trying to work things out, was he doing a bit of Tom Baker for one of him there?
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:27 |
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Really great episode, I was worried for awhile there that they were never going to address the previous call to come to the train. If Clara does go, sign me up for Perkins for some more episodes next season.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:28 |
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Well that was an amazing episode. And not just because it had Jenna Coleman as a flapper.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:28 |
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I love the thought now of the 11th Doctor convincing Amy and Rory to ditch the reception at their wedding to go solve the mystery of the mummy on the Orient Express, they wave goodbye and then he takes them somewhere completely different with the casual explanation of,"Oh come on, Ponds, that was clearly a trap!"
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:28 |
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Frank Skinner was ace. Also how long before Mr pink becomes a companion so with his army electrical skills can work on the tardis or something.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:30 |
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Also Frank Skinner out of nowhere was great, and I was really hoping he would take the doctors offer as a companion at the end.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:30 |
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Wyld Karde posted:Edit: Yeah, the cigarette case filled with jelly babies was a nice moment. On that note, the scene where the Doctor is talking with himself as he starts trying to work things out, was he doing a bit of Tom Baker for one of him there? There was a lot of really neat stuff with the Doctor clearly missing having Clara as a companion - he decided not to wake her and just do this himself which leads to him talking to himself, adapting some of the other guests to be quasi-companions etc and finally he just gives up and gives her a call... at which point he discovers she's been off on an adventure of her own. The Bechdel Test joke was hilarious too.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:31 |
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Autonomous Monster posted:So yeah, I'm giving this one an A. Its OK, I usually say what everyone thinks but hates to admit. Imagine how my manager feels.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:31 |
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I'm really enjoying the Doctor-Clara subplot that's been going on this season, I think it's by far the best relationship plot that they've had since nu-who started. This weeks episode was surprisingly good as well. I think I just enjoy the thought of The Doctor being a heartless bastard.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:33 |
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I really enjoyed that! It was nothing earth shattering, nothing huge going on but it just had a certain je ne sais quoi that worked for me. Capaldi and Coleman continue to be wonderful together, though you know that her decision at the end there is going to bite her on the arse horribly. I knew there was no way Frank Skinner was going to stick around but drat it, he actually made me want him to, never would have seen that coming. And yeah, the 20s look will never not be wonderful.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:33 |
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Quite liked that one. The Clara/Doctor thing got resolved a bit quickly I think (in terms of she was mad at him at the start and by the end they were all happy again) but I liked that she just shoved all the blame there on to Danny. That made me laugh. Gonna have to look up who played Perkins, because he's great but I can never remember his name. I want to say Frank something, but not sure. Also the mummy moved exactly like something else I can't recall. I think it was another Doctor Who baddy though. Oh, I liked the clock gimmick as well.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:35 |
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Frank Skinner
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:35 |
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Jerusalem posted:There was a lot of really neat stuff with the Doctor clearly missing having Clara as a companion - Capaldi sold all that really well. And this episode seemed to get the right balance between his outward callousness, but inside heart. He does care, but he's also very pragmatic about things and won't waste the effort of trying to save someone he knows he can't. EDIT: \/ Or it already HAS been with the way time travel is. Mokinokaro fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Oct 11, 2014 |
# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:36 |
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I'm guessing GUS will have something to do with Missy. Presumably the Mummy's tech will be reverse-engineered into the Nethersphere.
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McDragon posted:Gonna have to look up who played Perkins, because he's great but I can never remember his name. I want to say Frank something, but not sure. Frank Skinner, stand-up comedian, media personality and massive Doctor Who fan. That was quite good.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:37 |
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I enjoyed this episode a lot. I'd watch it again.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:42 |
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Jesus Christ, I just realized that if they were still doing split seasons there would have been months between Clara tearing the Doctor a new one and storming out and this episode. Thank God there are no more split seasons.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:48 |
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Jerusalem posted:The Bechdel Test joke was hilarious too. What was the Bechdel Test joke? I must have missed it.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:50 |
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Diabolik900 posted:What was the Bechdel Test joke? I must have missed it. Clara and Maisie are sitting together in the storage hold and start talking about the Doctor. Clara sighs and says,"Don't we have something better to talk about than a man?"
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:52 |
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That was really good, wasn't it? What a turn up for the books
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 21:53 |
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Another great thing - he whips out the psychic paper to get around the Captain's questions but it backfires by giving him a thoroughly unimpressive "occupation"... and then the Captain actually bothers to look up his claim, discovers it is false and promptly arrests him, only releasing him when he realizes there is a greater and more immediate danger than a "nosy-parker". I'm so glad that the psychic paper isn't being used as a crutch anymore. Same deal with the sonic screwdriver, it stops working and he says he has to guess what is causing that because he can't use the sonic screwdriver to tell him what is wrong with it!
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 22:02 |
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Wyld Karde posted:Edit: Yeah, the cigarette case filled with jelly babies was a nice moment. On that note, the scene where the Doctor is talking with himself as he starts trying to work things out, was he doing a bit of Tom Baker for one of him there?
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 22:38 |
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Really liked that episode, the setting, the mystery, the mixture of horror and just the right amount of sci-fi. Loved Frank Skinner. I was disappointed that Clara had a 180 on the Doctor by the end of the episode but I liked that it was Clara being brought down to the Doctor's level rather than him being redeemed or changed by her or something. Man, imagine if they'd used the Stanley Parable narrator from Time Heist as Gus. That would have been amazing casting.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 22:53 |
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reality_groove posted:
Who was that voice anyway? Sounded drat familiar but I can't place him.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 22:56 |
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Itzena posted:Yeah, there was definitely a bit of 4th Doc being channelled there. There's a bit where Capaldi's talking to himself in the bedroom, and he does an absolutely dead-on Tom Baker impression saying 'A mummy, that only the victim can see.' It's incredible.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:04 |
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That worked really nicely as a "standard" episode, I enjoyed it. The stakes felt about right and the twist made just enough sense on a practical and emotional level to work. Did they ever explain why the "mummy" went after the sick and traumatized? I guess it's possible that his role on the battlefield was to finish off wounded and fleeing enemies or something. Sighence posted:Who was that voice anyway? Sounded drat familiar but I can't place him.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:06 |
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Looke posted:Frank Skinner Barry Foster posted:Frank Skinner, stand-up comedian, media personality and massive Doctor Who fan. Ah yes, thanks. I should really just watch the credits I guess but I'm one of those people who has to turn off before the previews. Also I realised today there's been a lot of times this series where the Doctor has lied to everyone to throw off the baddies. Like pretending to abandon Clara in Deep Breath and the suicide thing in Time Heist and I think a couple more with a bit of mental gymnastics. Actually, thinking about it, I think he's lied in every episode so far. Did Eleven lie this much? I can't remember. I know he did a bit. Also also I found out what the mummy reminded me of. The mummy in The Rings of Akhaten. I guess he just remembered his clothes this time.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:28 |
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The Doctor lies.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:30 |
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Just wait until the season finale when Danny Pink is taken into the distant past with the doctor, critically wounded and has a black plastic alien device implanted in him to save his life.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:37 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Did they ever explain why the "mummy" went after the sick and traumatized? I guess it's possible that his role on the battlefield was to finish off wounded and fleeing enemies or something. It just struck me as basic survival instincts - target the weak and sick because you're more likely to succeed. The mummy needed energy to continue its now utterly redundant purpose, they were simply the easiest targets for that energy. There was no malice or even any thought behind it, the thing was essentially operating on auto-pilot until the Doctor figured out the one thing it needed to hear to satisfy the conditions to allow it to stop "fighting" and let the poor bastard finally rest.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:51 |
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You know, all pretense aside, I would love it if the Doctor had to deal with something truly, honestly supernatural some time.
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# ? Oct 11, 2014 23:54 |
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Burkion posted:You know, all pretense aside, I would love it if the Doctor had to deal with something truly, honestly supernatural some time. Counterpoint; I would absolutely hate it. Now, there isnt any practical difference between "The baddie has made up science powers" and "the baddie has magic powers" but for me it would totally go against the theme of the show.
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# ? Oct 12, 2014 00:01 |
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It's a pretty unsubtle theme that the Doctor's monsters this seasons are either soldiers, have deteriorating immortality, or both. Still, I don't think I've seen a theme this consistent in terms of antagonists EVER.
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# ? Oct 12, 2014 00:03 |
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Burkion posted:You know, all pretense aside, I would love it if the Doctor had to deal with something truly, honestly supernatural some time. I felt in a way the Beast/Devil thing in The Impossible Planet/Satan Pit was supernatural-like and the Doctor not really knowing what it was
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# ? Oct 12, 2014 00:07 |
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Excellent episode. Writer of the episode doing a AMA http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/2iyngn/i_wrote_tonights_doctor_who_and_next_weeks_ama/?sort=top and a few things about episode at his blog. Hope we will see him again in Season 9. Excited about next week http://jamiemathieson.blogspot.co.uk/
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# ? Oct 12, 2014 00:08 |
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SiKboy posted:Counterpoint; I would absolutely hate it. Now, there isnt any practical difference between "The baddie has made up science powers" and "the baddie has magic powers" but for me it would totally go against the theme of the show. You can get the exact same effect by the Doctor simply not finding out the answer or complete picture in an episode.
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# ? Oct 12, 2014 00:14 |
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Little_wh0re posted:Senor Tron. You monster It had to be done.
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:17 |
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That episode was absolutely fantastic. I loved the atmosphere, the story, all the character development, and it was non-stop with great references too. I cracked up at the jelly babies and the "Are you my mummy?" bits. Definitely one of my top three favorites from this season, along with Listen and Into the Dalek.
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